Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
95:40 – 102:21… seems inappropriate for this conversation. Well, I mean, they're... They're fucking up a storm in Toy Story 4. Jesus Christ. At the end of it, at least. Okay. Apex Mountain. So, Tom Hanks in 1995. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait. Okay. I had a bunch of unanswerable questions. I'll skip them, but I have to ask you this one. Please. Okay. I have to ask about Whiskers. Because when the toys, they don't know that Buzz has gone off on this journey. First to Pizza Planet, then eventually to SIDS. They are searching for him in the bushes. And Rex, we hear a cat meow, and then Rex yells at Whiskers for interfering with …
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Just going to say, let's keep it moving. I wanted to ask whether Bo Peep and Woody get it on, but that just seems inappropriate for this conversation. Well, I mean, they're... They're fucking up a storm in Toy Story 4. Jesus Christ. At the end of it, at least. Okay. Apex Mountain. So, Tom Hanks in 1995. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait. Okay. I had a bunch of unanswerable questions. I'll skip them, but I have to ask you this one. Please. Okay. I have to ask about Whiskers. Because when the toys, they don't know that Buzz has gone off on this journey. First to Pizza Planet, then eventually to SIDS. They are searching for him in the bushes. And Rex, we hear a cat meow, and then Rex yells at Whiskers for interfering with their search and rescue. So, I found myself wondering, who is Whiskers? Is Whiskers a neighborhood cat? Does Whiskers belong to another family on the street? Is Whiskers perhaps a stray? Or is Whiskers actually the family cat? And then I went to see if Whiskers had a Toy Story wiki. And Whiskers does have a Toy Story wiki. And apparently, Whiskers is... There are some conflicting evidence online, but there's some people who think that Whiskers is the family's cat. And my question is, if that's so, why don't we ever see Whiskers again? Obviously, Buster. I don't think it's the family cat. It can't be, right? It must just be a neighborhood cat. They would have been accustomed to having pets in the house already. And especially because we see how they respond to the cat in Toy Story 4. It seems impossible that they could have been spending all this time with the cat. There's no way. I'm going to be super real with you. I've never once thought about Whiskers. Just don't have Whiskers on the brain at all. So, what's Whiskers life like on that street? Straight up to you. Is Whiskers okay? Yeah. He's just trying to stay away from Sid is all he's doing. Okay, guys. Apex Mountain. Tom Hanks in 1995. Let me give you some quick context on where he is at, okay? He wins his second Oscar for Forrest Gump at the beginning of the year. Apollo 13 and Toy Story are released within five months of each other. And in this year, he's filming that thing you do, which is his directorial debut. Wow. That's the money time of all money times. Is that the highest apex we've ever had in the history of this show? I would guess yes. I don't know. The only other person you can compare him to is Denzel. And I know you did Denzel Training Day. Yeah. But I don't think Denzel had this much stuff going on at that particular time. Okay. So, this is a historic Apex Mountain. A couple of other Apex Mountain questions for you. Steve Jobs? Steve Jobs. So, Steve Jobs executive produced this film. Okay. And at the same time, he was on the brink of selling his next computer and returning to Apple to run Apple for a second time, which then shepherds in this extraordinary moment in technology where he develops the iPod and the iPhone and the iPad. And the technology that we hold in our hands every day comes in this second wave. And this is right when Jobs is about to burst. Yay or nay? Thumbs down for me. Oh, my God. So, just to be clear, though, with both Jobs and the Hank's case, you're talking about the moment in time, not Toy Story specifically, right? Well, they're all connected, right? I think the rise of Pixar, Jobs gets a ton of credit for that. And it's his relationship with Bob Iger that leads to Pixar eventually being acquired in 2006. And so, you know, I think the success of Toy Story and the system that they build at Pixar, he gets a lot of credit for. The same reason he gets a lot of credit for the development of the iPhone, for example, even though he was not a digital animator animating Toy Story. So, you know, a pretty pivotal moment here. Hmm. Okay. Last one is this Apex Mountain for toys. Oh, boy. Wow. Wow. Blew your mind. Oh, my God. Blew my mind. I'm going to vote no. I'm going to vote Apex Mountain for toys was when Robin Williams made toys. That's my pick. That's my pick. I'm pro Robin Williams in all arguments. Another person whose voice could have been effective in this movie, by the way. He would have been. He's been great in anything. He could do it all. Remember one hour photo? That's just that's not appropriate for this pod. We're talking about Toy Story. Shea. Okay. Last category. Who won the movie? Mallory. Who won the movie? Woody. Absolutely. Because as we discussed, even though as we discussed, every character has on a sliding scale some level of an epiphany or a surge of growth and development, an emotional, spiritual journey, a literal journey in many cases. Because the entire Toy Story universe hinges on Woody's choices and Woody's growth and Woody's sense of self, how he understands his purpose in a given moment, what role he has for Andy, for the other toys. When he starts to realize, I mean, obviously at the end of Toy Story 4, going way ahead, that he can maybe live his own life at that point. But it's actually all Woody's story, even though it has become this expanded, masterful universe. And it just it just doesn't work if you don't feel as invested in Woody's story as you ultimately do. Yeah, that feels exactly right. All of the most emotional moments in the Toy Story franchise are coming off of Woody's beats for the most part. Or bullseyes. It's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be Woody here. Buzz, Buzz makes a great run at it. And it's hard when you're the, you're the second lead to overtake the first one, but he gets, he gets pretty, pretty close, but it's got to be Woody. Yeah. I, I, I agree. I think we have unanimity here. It has to be Woody. Um, I guess Buzz is a close second here. You know, we haven't mentioned Slink. Just want to want to say his name before the end of the pod. Slink is solid. I'm not mad at Slink. Any other toys you, you feel bad about, uh, not shouting out the RC car or anything else? Mr. Spell. Oh yeah. Mr. Spell was elite. He, good, good. He checked from Spell. Great, great work by the Etch-A-Sketch also in this movie. Got to say. Good call. That was, that was hardcore when he drew the hangman's name.
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