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Days of Thunder 1990

With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan and Kyle Brandt · 18 March 2025 · 21,807 feet

The claim

29:37 – 32:29

… And it's like, it would always, that was basically, it was like Indy 500, Daytona 500 were the extent of the car races that I would watch. I think NASCAR is apex mountain for sports that you have to be there in person to really enjoy. And that's what everybody says. And like, I've gone, I went to a race once. I went to a race 15 years ago and it was outside Chicago. And you cannot fucking believe how fast the cars are going. Yeah. You watch it on TV and it looks like they're crawling. And I remember I got to like, I got to go in the pits and like super randomly, this was the time in the Chicago area that Rex …

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Like, I was aware. I think my dad would watch like the Daytona 500. And every year I'd be like, so this is like their Super Bowl. And he's like, yes, but it's also the first race. And it's like, it would always, that was basically, it was like Indy 500, Daytona 500 were the extent of the car races that I would watch. I think NASCAR is apex mountain for sports that you have to be there in person to really enjoy. And that's what everybody says. And like, I've gone, I went to a race once. I went to a race 15 years ago and it was outside Chicago. And you cannot fucking believe how fast the cars are going. Yeah. You watch it on TV and it looks like they're crawling. And I remember I got to like, I got to go in the pits and like super randomly, this was the time in the Chicago area that Rex Grossman was there. And I was like, what's up, Rex Grossman? And he was enjoying it too. But when you go, it fucking blows your mind. It really does. Rex is like, I'm thinking of taking us to the Super Bowl and then completely falling apart. Kyle said, that sounds great. Yeah. But first have the opening kickoff be returned for a touchdown and your dumb ass still blows it. Yes. That's what he was talking about. My relationship as a kid of the seventies and eighties with this whole world was every once in a while, Sports Illustrated would write about it. Like I just looked it up cause I remembered it was Cole Yarborough. I didn't remember who the other person was, but there was a big fight in 1979 between Cole Yarborough and Bobby Allison. I think Bobby Allison. Yeah. And, uh, Sports Illustrated wrote a story about it. And I was like, Whoa, these guys fought on the track. Like NASCAR seems kind of cool. And then never watched it. And then the other thing would be if it was on a network that had football, they would promote it coming up next Daytona. And, and, but it just never, never took. I always felt like it was just kind of in the South, just kind of happening over here. You know what, Bill? And then when I, when I used to, when I used to work with Jim Rome, we would book NASCAR drivers as guests. And the reason we would do it is because they would talk shit and they were open and loose and it wasn't like basketball or football players. They don't care. So you'd have Tony Stewart on and he would say some crazy bombastic thing about another driver that no player on the Knicks would ever say. So they were really good talk show guests and they were always, the NASCAR is always providing them. Anybody you want, they're trying really hard. And that was part of the draw, the personalities. Like the first two months I had my podcast for ESPN 2007. Uh-huh. Um, Tony Stewart was one of my first guests. Did Tony Stewart call in on the subway fresh take hotline? I don't even think it was subway fresh take yet. Um, and, uh, I did the research and I saw that he had a car number 33. So I was like, Oh, this would be a good icebreaker. My favorite number, Larry bird. Yeah. And we started off, I'm on the phone with him, so I can't see him. And I'm like, yeah, you know, you know, I, you're one of my favorites. Cause you raced number 33 and he's like, uh, I'm actually number 20 or whatever he is. I only ran 33 that a couple of races. So it was just, couldn't have been off to a worse start. And then he withdrew and it was like one of the, it was probably the worst that he'd

101:03 – 103:49

… you on set. Oh, Dawn, could I go and maybe study neurosurgery? Neurosurgery. Could I get into the hospital and talk to some neurosurgeons? That's awesome. Apex Mountain Cruise? Probably not. We're in the cruise vicinity, but I still feel like it's a few good men that range. Yeah. I mean, I think 89, 90, 92 is about... We're in range. We're not quite there. Duval? No. Kidman? Not yet. Cruise's hair and teeth, I think. I'm going yes and yes. Yes. Yes. NASCAR? No. Lunatic Don Simpson stories. I think yes. Yeah, this is great. I think this is Apex right here. Yeah. I mean, my favorite one is still David Milch's …

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I saw that and didn't include it, because it seemed too crazy. Do you think that was true? Yes. Yes. Don't worry about it, honey. We need you on set. Oh, Dawn, could I go and maybe study neurosurgery? Neurosurgery. Could I get into the hospital and talk to some neurosurgeons? That's awesome. Apex Mountain Cruise? Probably not. We're in the cruise vicinity, but I still feel like it's a few good men that range. Yeah. I mean, I think 89, 90, 92 is about... We're in range. We're not quite there. Duval? No. Kidman? Not yet. Cruise's hair and teeth, I think. I'm going yes and yes. Yes. Yes. NASCAR? No. Lunatic Don Simpson stories. I think yes. Yeah, this is great. I think this is Apex right here. Yeah. I mean, my favorite one is still David Milch's from Bad Boys, but yes, this is incredible. Cruise as a believable real-life Playboy Bachelor. Coming Off Divorce, landing Nicole Kidman. I'm going to say yes. I had no questions when I was in 1990. Maybe so innocent. Rooker, cliffhanger, right? Cliffhanger. Yeah. It's him and Stallone toe-to-toe, the whole movie. John C. Reilly, no. Carrie Elwes, no. What is Carrie Elwes' Apex? Princess Bride? Princess Bride. Yeah. I think 87, I think. Hans Zimmer, probably not. Simpson Bruckheimer, no. No. Mellow Yellow. Car racing movies? Car racing movies. Probably Talladega. I think that's had better legs. And then Mellow Yellow. Yes, right? Yeah. When did you get better from Mellow Yellow? That song that inspired the soda, a song by Donovan, like an old hippie song. But I think this car and the movie and everything has got to be. Yeah. Cruiser Hanks. Cruise is in it. I'm willing to have the Hanks convo. Yeah. I can't get there. But Cruise, sure. So I don't know what the standings are now for those two. What do you have for Scorsese or Spielberg? I would like to see the Scorsese version of this. A lot more cocaine. Simpson's like, yeah, let's have Cole become a cocaine addict. Cruise goes on to work with Spielberg a bunch throughout the 90s and into the 2000s. But I always wished he had done more with Scorsese because I love Color of Money so much. So I'll go with Scorsese here. I got Scorsese too. Harry had this wonderful system for doing the moonshine. He would slice the barley so thin it would liquefy in the jar with just a little yeast. That's Scorsese. What role would Philip Seymour Hoffman have played? You could see him a little bit older as Harry. You could see him a little bit younger as the John C. Reilly.

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Tom Cruise26,860 ftWar of the Worlds, 2005, by 6,843 feet.
Robert Duvall23,290 ftThe Apostle, 1997, by 4,433 feet.
Nicole Kidman25,420 ftMoulin Rouge!, 2001, by 6,801 feet.
Cary Elwes20,050 ftSaw, 2004, by 2,083 feet.
John C. Reilly23,890 ftStep Brothers, 2008, by 6,029 feet.

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