Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
67:48 – 73:01… the driver stopped at a red light. There's a billboard with four nooses displayed next to Jackson's head. The nooses foreshadow. Sheesh. Yeah. There you go. Apex Mountain. Wait, can we just do one more little internet research thing? Yeah. This movie is just strictly about colors, right? So when we first see Jackson Maine, when he's in the car, it's all blue at night. When he goes into the blue, blue bar. Lady Gaga walks into the yellow. She walks out red. All red. Lady Gaga is red. Jackson Maine is blue. End of the movie, when Jackson Maine is hanging from the garage, all you can see is the police car lights …
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Jackson Maine's death foreshadowed many times in the movie, but one time you might not have noticed. The beginning, him and the driver stopped at a red light. There's a billboard with four nooses displayed next to Jackson's head. The nooses foreshadow. Sheesh. Yeah. There you go. Apex Mountain. Wait, can we just do one more little internet research thing? Yeah. This movie is just strictly about colors, right? So when we first see Jackson Maine, when he's in the car, it's all blue at night. When he goes into the blue, blue bar. Lady Gaga walks into the yellow. She walks out red. All red. Lady Gaga is red. Jackson Maine is blue. End of the movie, when Jackson Maine is hanging from the garage, all you can see is the police car lights flashing blue, red, blue, red into each other. That's kind of the end of the movie. It's good filmmaking stuff. Bradley Cooper, not good enough to get Best Director nomination. Those are choices. They're a little obvious, but they're also a little subtle. I like stuff like that. This is really nerdy and also a dumb question. Pink is red and blue. Yeah. Le'Veon Rose, the sign over the thing. Exactly. Wow. Apex Mountain. Bradley Cooper. Gotta be. It's the apex of his career. 100% for me. I would say 1,000% yes. Has to be. Yeah. Lady Gaga, I don't know enough about her career to answer that. I mean, she was pretty freaking successful already. But she's also, we're counting music as well? Yeah, I think so. Hey, you know. She had to have had an Apex Mountain before this. Hmm. I don't know. I mean, she has obviously been a majorly, majorly, majorly successful pop star. Mm-hmm. And that is a unique kind of fame. I would say the more I think about this movie, and I give a lot of the credit for the movie to Bradley Cooper, but I give a lot of the credit to the movie's success to Lady Gaga. Because she's an internationally famous person who kills it in the movie. And people are going out for that. I don't think they're going out for Bradley Cooper. I agree. I think they're going out for her. That's a good point. So, if she's able to do that, this might be the peak. This movie also isn't just popular in America. It's popular around the world. It's made like almost $500 million at this point. It immobilized her fan base, too. Yeah. Which is… So, I would say yes. A tentative yes. And if she wins, 1,000% yes. It's a personal Apex Mountain for me. I think that for people who really like… There's no such thing as personal Apex Mountain. Yeah, yeah. You're confusing. When is she at the most… No, I'm not. I don't know. I've asked him like 11 times during this show, what is Apex Mountain. I know. It's not personal? Most success, career leverage, everything. Oh, okay. So, it's objective. It's not just like, is this the… I don't know. It's got to be earlier than this. If she wins Best Actress, I think it becomes Apex Mountain. Are you getting nominated for this? No. Nobody else qualifies for this. The Joe Pantaleone Award, aka the Joey Pants Award, for the best performance by that guy or that girl. I'm going with Gaga's gay friend who comes to the concert with her. I don't know what that guy's name is, but he's good in it. Now I know him as Gaga's friend in the movie. He's that guy. He is from Hamilton. He is a Hamilton guy, right? Yeah, his name's Anthony Ramos. Anthony Ramos. That's why I didn't know that. I believe he was… Is he… Whose son does he play in the film? Does he play Hamilton's son? Is that plausible? Oh, in Hamilton. I thought you meant in the movie. And I was like, I don't know if we get his parentage. I can't remember. I don't know. Would this movie have been better with Danny Trejo, Steve Buscemi, or Michael K. Williams? Wait, you didn't do Ron Rifkin for the Joe Pantaleone. Which one did he? Ron Rifkin is the old guy that Bradley Cooper talks to when he goes into rehab. Oh, yeah. Oh, that guy. Oh, that's… See, he's the winner. That's a good one. And one of the things that I like about this movie is that both Ron Rifkin and another that guy, Greg Grunberg, who plays his driver, were Bradley Cooper's co-stars on Alias. Oh, right. Which was his big break in network television. And that's him bringing his family back into the mix. All right, we'll make them co-winners. Michael K. Williams definitely could have been at Chappelle's house. I would have enjoyed that. His brother-in-law. Yeah, that would have been good. He's a little off the rails. The Saul Rubinek They Knew Award for the best overacting in the movie. It's tough. I didn't really feel like there was signature overacting. I thought Rez the manager was pretty bad. He's a weak link for me. He's bad. I agree. So I would give him this just because I think he deserves some sort of acclaim, reverse acclaim. So one of the weird things about Rez is in the movie, his name is Rez Gavran. And in real life, his name is Rafi Gavran. So why? Why is his last name Gavran in the movie? I wonder if he's like- Has anyone asked anybody about that? This is a part, it's like a Billy Zane part. Totally. Where it's just like the first time you lay eyes on him, you're like, that person's no good. Totally. And he's kind of owning it the whole time. That's true. I have to say, if it had been Billy Zane, it would be really over the top. There's an insidious nature to this guy. He's just kind of lurking and things are going very bad. Do you buy it when he finally confronts Cooper at the end of the movie and he's like, you're ruining her career. You're going to take her down with you. Because that's the one scene that is like mustache twirling villainy.
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