Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
2:24 – 5:14… budget. It's also, I listened to the podcast. I loved 99% of what we did. We left out like two things. One, I really do, looking back, feel like this was the apex mountain for high school movies. 1999. Just, this is a sampling. American Pie. Cruel Intentions. Never Been Kissed. She's All That. Teaching Mrs. Tingle. The Faculty. Election. Drive Me Crazy. Outside Providence. I was in the 70s, but it was still a boarding school. 10 Things I Hate About You and Varsity Blues. And you can even shoehorn American Beauty in there. I have no idea why high school movies went absolutely batshit in the late 90s. I mean, I …
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And then it made $356 million worldwide. American Pie. Who knew? Only had a $50 million budget. It's also, I listened to the podcast. I loved 99% of what we did. We left out like two things. One, I really do, looking back, feel like this was the apex mountain for high school movies. 1999. Just, this is a sampling. American Pie. Cruel Intentions. Never Been Kissed. She's All That. Teaching Mrs. Tingle. The Faculty. Election. Drive Me Crazy. Outside Providence. I was in the 70s, but it was still a boarding school. 10 Things I Hate About You and Varsity Blues. And you can even shoehorn American Beauty in there. I have no idea why high school movies went absolutely batshit in the late 90s. I mean, I guess I have two theories. One is that this was the generation removed from the high school movies that we'd all grown up with. And we talk about this in the podcast, but they basically just started doing this generation's version of those movies. And then the second thing was, this was still early in the internet era. And there wasn't a ton to do. And people still went to the movies pretty religiously and pretty regularly, especially teenagers and people in college. And they just started catering those type of movies to those people. So you look back at 98, 99. I still know what you did last summer. All those movies, plus all these 99 movies. And it was just this high school boom. And now I think in this generation, it shifted to all the streaming stuff. It shifted to either the made-for-Netflix type of movies or those weird summer I turned pretty type Amazon shows. Whatever this was in the late 90s, it certainly felt like a generation. So that was one thing. And then the other thing that we didn't talk about in 99, which I think is more relevant now at the end of 2023, is Jennifer Coolidge, thanks to White Lotus, became even a bigger star. So we were debating who won this movie. And I think if you look 24 years later, it's her. And it's Eugene Levy who had the Schitt's Creek took off. Even when we taped this pod in 99, it was starting to become a thing on Netflix. And then it blew up even bigger than that. So it's funny that those two older actors from this movie became the belated breakout stars of the movie. So there you go. We had a lot of fun doing this podcast. Me, Sean Fantasy, Chris Ryan. American Pie is next. The awkward moments. I want the right time, the right moment, the right place. It's not a space shuttle launch. It's sex. The infatuation. I love you. You're okay. The desperation. What exactly does it feel like?
64:39 – 69:20… let's go. What's my name? Say my name, bitch! Michelle, Michelle. Nice job. Good job by her. They found it so amusing, kept in the final cut. Let's go to Apex Mountain. Apex Mountain where we decided this was the apex of somebody's career. Okay. And unfortunately for this movie, it was for a lot of the people involved. Yeah. I would say. I would say. Yeah. Go ahead. This is one of the unique movies we've done is one of these podcasts where I would say. Yeah. Sometimes we'll have nobody on Apex Mountain. All the people who came out better from this movie, this was not their Apex Mountain. Except for maybe …
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The line, say my name, bitch, ad lib by Allison Hannigan. Okay, let's go. What's my name? Say my name, bitch! Michelle, Michelle. Nice job. Good job by her. They found it so amusing, kept in the final cut. Let's go to Apex Mountain. Apex Mountain where we decided this was the apex of somebody's career. Okay. And unfortunately for this movie, it was for a lot of the people involved. Yeah. I would say. I would say. Yeah. Go ahead. This is one of the unique movies we've done is one of these podcasts where I would say. Yeah. Sometimes we'll have nobody on Apex Mountain. All the people who came out better from this movie, this was not their Apex Mountain. Except for maybe Casey Affleck. I would say Coolidge, no. Eugene Levy, no. Would you say Best in Show for them? Or Schitt's Creek? For movies, yeah. I would say Best in Show. Eugene Levy, I would say SCTV. SCTV. Yeah. Sean William Scott, I feel like he peaked a little bit later probably when he got a $15 million check to do the third movie or whatever. I would say that was his apex mountain. Yeah, that makes sense. Did the rundown with The Rock. I think everybody else is in play as this might have been their apex. Certainly was for Tara Reade. Jason Biggs, I guess maybe Loser was. We haven't talked Biggs at all. I'm ready. You guys ready? Yeah. I like Biggs. Biggs did a Woody Allen movie. He did. He's really online. He likes to tweet a lot, or he did. I thought he was actually good in this movie. I thought he was. Yeah, we're kind of shitting on everybody's performances, but he does the right kind of performance to be the center of a teen comedy. Really, the ones that were bad were Chris Klein, Minasavari in this movie, Minasavari and Thomas St. Nicholas. I would say Tara Reade as well. And Tara Reade as well. And Tara Reade as well. But she was never good at any point. But the thing is, these movies are all about how you position people, I think. Because Chris Klein is literally the same actor in Election in the same year. But that movie knew how to make his character. They leaned into his weaknesses to make him seem like an effective character. His team-ness is played up. Yeah. Exactly. Was Election after this? It's in the fall. So that was his apex mountain. Probably. Probably. Because he's red hot. He's Chris Klein. I guess. He's in a bunch of hits. But when you watch Election, you're like, oh, Chris Klein, he's good. But you never think that he's bad, even though he's basically playing literally the same character. A dumb jock in high school who's very earnest and is trying to do something but gets it wrong all the time. I asked my wife, Chris Klein, what's going on? And she's super handsome. Yeah. What's up with that one little piece of hair, though, that hangs down from his slick back look? Did you notice that? Producer Craig or Chris Klein? That was kind of like a post-90210 thing that was happening, though, right? Where guys would have a lock. Did you ever do that? No. Not your look? Nope. The Joe Pantolioni award named after the best that guy in the movie. Joe Pantolioni. His name is Pantoliano. Pantoliano. He's not like a piece of pasta. This is every single episode you do. I like to mispronounce it. Joe Pantolioni. Joe Scungili. Joe Pantolioni. Bobby Calzone. Joe Pantolioni. Yeah. The Joey Pants award. That's why we call it the Joey Pants award. For the best that guy in the movie. I hate to say it, but I feel like Eugene Levy is that guy for just about, not for us. At this time or forever? I think Schitt's Creek. I don't know if you watch Schitt's Creek. Chris, you just mentioned it. I think that has changed it for a lot of people because he stars in that show with Catherine O'Hara. Chris and Craig nodding. Nodding, yeah. Well, because it's on Netflix too. So people have been like really getting into it. So he has become more of a figure in people's lives. So who would your Joey Pants winner be? It's Shermanator. Oh. Oh, Shermanator. Nice. Shermanator. Yeah, you're right. I don't even know that guy's real name. Good one. I'll find that guy's name. In some ways, Natasha Lyonne was kind of a that guy. But now we know who that is. Before Russian Doll. Well, before all her drug issues. Yeah, that's true. That's true. This is a tough one. Chris Owen was in Major Pain. Can't Hardly Wait. She's All That. Can't Hardly Wait. Yeah. Another guy trying to get a late movie. Late 90s. He was in October Sky. This episode is brought to you by Mazda. Want to be as confident behind the wheel as I am about a movie nobody else will admit as a top five all-timer? Get the Mazda CX-50 Hybrid. It comes standard with a suite of proactive safety features and lets you explore far and wide with an EPA estimated 38 miles per gallon combined and electronic all-wheel drive. Mazda. Move and be moved. Visit MazdaUSA.com. Discover how confidence comes standard.
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