Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
52:27 – 55:25… just so good in that. I don't know who else could have done that. I think he's great in the whole movie. Uh, and, and he produced the movie. Um, that was his apex mountain in case you're wondering. Brilliant movie star. I think so too. Yeah. Um, another one's aged the best. What? Uh, Ordinary People's a close second in terms of apex mountain. But if we're just talking about actors, we're talking about in 1976, he's probably the biggest star in the world. He also has the juice to produce his own movie, get it funded, put himself in it. He's never had more things going. You are. You are correct. Another thing …
The whole segment, as transcribed
his copy and Dustin Hoffman is going over and grabbing it and looking at it and Redford's watching it. And then he finally confronts him is unbelievable Redford. Like that, that five minutes for him. He's just so good in that. I don't know who else could have done that. I think he's great in the whole movie. Uh, and, and he produced the movie. Um, that was his apex mountain in case you're wondering. Brilliant movie star. I think so too. Yeah. Um, another one's aged the best. What? Uh, Ordinary People's a close second in terms of apex mountain. But if we're just talking about actors, we're talking about in 1976, he's probably the biggest star in the world. He also has the juice to produce his own movie, get it funded, put himself in it. He's never had more things going. You are. You are correct. Another thing that's aged the best widescreen. So this movie had a pretty crappy run on TV in the seventies, eighties and nineties with the square TVs because it's filmed, it's filmed super wide. Sure. So the super posse scene, that scene now, if you have the right TV is in, in the right transfer and all that stuff, it's fucking gorgeous to watch that. And like 1982, it's just like, they're cutting it. They're moving the picture to kind of match the guys. It's really. The movie is beautiful looking. Wide screen's a friend for this movie. Mm-hmm. Conrad Hall and Edith Head doing the costumes. Conrad Hall shoots it. Edith Head is doing the look. That's, that's powerhouse. That's like maybe the best cinematographer of, of his generation and maybe the best costume designer of her generation. That's right. On the same movie. And again, George Roy Hill, George Roy Hill, George Roy. Right. So quickly, Butch and Edda, the whole threesome whole thing is, is they pull it off and it could have gone wrong in a lot of different ways, but the chemistry that they have, even though they're not dating and that whole scene with the, with the bicycle scene and just everything about how they're interacting. Yeah, she even says see everything of what would happen if, if I'd met you first. It should have gone terribly and it doesn't. It's actually like believable and I'm in. I agree. Hey, what do you think of the, of the scene where we meet Edda for the first time? I don't think you could do the scene today. I had that in which age the worst. Oh, okay. Sorry. Yeah. I'm going to let you run. That's why you're here. That's why you're here. No, that's, well, we'll hold that thought. What, anything else age the best for you guys? Well, just about Edda, the thing is, is like the love story is between Butch and Sundance. It's not between her. And so she's a key figure in the story, but even she ultimately recognizes that it's between the two of them. And that's why it never creeps into a kind of weirdness with the story. Where they're fighting over. Yeah. Because they're loyal to each other over any other person. Any other what's age the best? You love the horses. Yeah, I do. Not as much as what horse. I got to say, I love dynamite. It's something that we just don't see in movies anymore. I know. I agree with that. I just like the old school dynamite, hooking it up to a safe, blowing it up. Just for me, I wouldn't change a word of the dialogue. Yeah. You know, it's perfect.
71:02 – 73:47… set forever. Newman felt that should be the catalyzing incident that sends them to Bolivia. I see. Wait, we got a rip through. We're behind schedule. Okay. Apex Mountain. I say yes for Paul Newman. I think after this movie, he's at the absolute peak of his powers coming off the end of this decade. And this movie is a massive thing. And I think he can do whatever he wanted. Agreed. And then Catherine Ross. And I don't think that would be it. Certainly not for Redford. I guess George Roy Hill. I mailed you his IMDB of the next 20 years of films he made. It's like a murder. Even Funny Farm. I really like. 1988. …
The whole segment, as transcribed
Newman thought the scene should come at the end of the chase. George Hill was like, no, we're doing it this way. And they just argued about it every day on the set forever. Newman felt that should be the catalyzing incident that sends them to Bolivia. I see. Wait, we got a rip through. We're behind schedule. Okay. Apex Mountain. I say yes for Paul Newman. I think after this movie, he's at the absolute peak of his powers coming off the end of this decade. And this movie is a massive thing. And I think he can do whatever he wanted. Agreed. And then Catherine Ross. And I don't think that would be it. Certainly not for Redford. I guess George Roy Hill. I mailed you his IMDB of the next 20 years of films he made. It's like a murder. Even Funny Farm. I really like. 1988. He had 20 straight years of movies that I enjoyed. I loved World Curtain of Garp. I just like that dude. He and Goldman reunite for The Great Wall of the Pepper, too, which is a great, very underseen movie. Joey Pants Award to that guy in a movie named after Joe Panoliano. Yeah. Strother Martin, who was Strother Martin in the 60s, but now I think he's just kind of that guy. Okay, but I might give it to George Firth. So which one are you saying? Woodcock. Oh, that's even better on the track. I work with Chris H. Harriman of the United Pacific. Because George Firth is actually, he's a writer. But you see him acting a lot in roles that. It's terrible. It's a great that guy name, too. He's got a great face. It's like if Charles Grodin passes on something, George Firth. We have the Saul Rubinick, they knew category for best overacting. So Saul Rubinick in True Romance, when he realizes he's been betrayed, he just says, You stabbed me in the heart! He just goes way over and dials it up. So we like to reward people who dial it up in a movie, but I didn't really feel like anybody overacted in this movie. I can't think. I'm kind of— Ray, did you feel like that way? I'm trying to think of somebody who could— Scrolling through the movie right now really quickly, and I can't think of anyone who did. I'm going back to the brothel. And remember Sweet Face? Yeah, I just don't see it. No, he was fine. Yeah. I don't think there's anybody. Pick a nits. I don't have a lot of— By the way, I'm sorry. Back at the brothel. Cloris Leachman. I was just going to say that. Oh, yeah. Pick a nits. I don't have a lot of nits to pick other than—I didn't totally understand what her endgame was. Would be my only nitpick. Like, so did she love Sundance, but she's just the third wheel for these guys? And did she have a thing for Butch? Like— Okay, this is— It felt a tiny bit unexplored. Perhaps something that doesn't age as well either. But back then, in 1969, it needed no explanation why a woman would want to be with—
Open the full episode on Spotify — it cannot start at the timestamp, so the segment above is the mp3.
A grade for each call is not built yet. The board's answer is shown; whether the pod landed on it is a separate judgement, and it is not made here.