Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
60:59 – 64:25… Oh, good. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. Maybe he should be Claire. I want to kind of bunch these two last ones together because they're complicated. Because Apex Mountain and Who Won the Movie are kind of separate here. Do you think this is Apex Mountain for Tom Cruise? No. No. No. Do you think this is Apex Mountain for Brian DePaul? No. No. Do you think this is Apex Mountain for Ving Rhames? No. No. No. Pulp Fiction. Baby Boy, what's up? Yeah. More than Pulp Fiction. Baby Boy's pretty good. Wow. More than Get Medieval on your ass. Sure. Okay. Jon Voight. No. No. Not close. Anaconda. Kristen Scott Thomas. No. …
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I believe Steve Buscemi is one of them. Oh, yeah. It would definitely be, Steve Buscemi could definitely be in this movie. Who would he be? Krieger? Estevez. Estevez. Oh, good. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. Maybe he should be Claire. I want to kind of bunch these two last ones together because they're complicated. Because Apex Mountain and Who Won the Movie are kind of separate here. Do you think this is Apex Mountain for Tom Cruise? No. No. No. Do you think this is Apex Mountain for Brian DePaul? No. No. Do you think this is Apex Mountain for Ving Rhames? No. No. No. Pulp Fiction. Baby Boy, what's up? Yeah. More than Pulp Fiction. Baby Boy's pretty good. Wow. More than Get Medieval on your ass. Sure. Okay. Jon Voight. No. No. Not close. Anaconda. Kristen Scott Thomas. No. No. No, that's only God forgives. So this is not Apex Mountain for anybody. It's not Jon Renau. I guess it's Zerny. It's Zerny's Apex Mountain. I had to say he's better in Clear and Present Danger. Wow. I can't believe I'm doing the podcast with the only other Henry Zerny expert in the world. Shout out to you, man. What about Danny Elfman? No. Oh, no. What about... That's got to be Beetlejuice, right? Is Elfman. Batman? Batman. I also really like the Midnight Run soundtrack, but nobody asked me. What about Stephen Burham, who's the Palmas cinematographer? Give me some other Stephen Burham hits. He's done some good ones. We're trying to figure out the Apex. The Outsiders. The Outsiders. Rumblefish. It's pretty good. St. Elmo's Fire. Great stuff. Eight Million Ways to Die. No. The Untouchables. Amazing. Hoffa. I'm going Untouchables. Okay. Yeah. All right. Who won the movie? Oof. Cruz. De Palma. Here's one I'm going to throw as a little wrinkle. Hollywood. Yeah. The Hollywood studio system of putting great people, the top of their craft, in the best place to succeed, giving them the money needed to build an aquarium and blow it up. Aquarium does not exist. They had to build that from scratch. And the tanks were Tom Cruise's ideas. I'll put a twist on it. And the specific way that this movie came together, that kind of chaotic, almost old Hollywood way of like they don't know what they're doing and they're not even sure what it's going to be until it's made, is kind of a thing that you don't hear about anymore except as a totally cautionary tale. Yeah. It's like this is what happened on one of those Star Wars movies and the guy got fired. Fantastic Four is a tragic comedy and now no one will ever work again with that because everything's so formulaic. So I think maybe the victor is that style of collaborative, almost improvisatory filmmaking where you really get a synergy of like these creative talents in a way that seems extremely chaotic but produces something that's really great on the screen. I think that you could make the case in both directions. I think you could say everything that you're saying is right, which is that the manic nature of Hollywood creation showed that stuff like this can work. On the flip side, this is kind of like end times for movies. Sure. And it signals a new path for arguably the greatest movie star of the last 30 years where he decides that or he realizes more or less that to be relevant into his 50s, he has to keep falling down stuff and holding on to stuff.
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