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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

Memento 2000

With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 1 June 2021 · 25,961 feet

The claim

38:45 – 45:19

… He's in Carnival, Batman Begins. He's in 30 Days of Night. He's in Sons of Anarchy for a long time. That's pretty good. All right. That's fair. I'll allow it. Apex Mountain. Guy Pearce, yes. Yeah. Carrie Ann Moss, probably coming out of the Matrix. Yeah. Maybe at this moment, you could say, but it didn't really lead to a ton for her. Yeah. So I would say this is Carrie Ann Moss, Apex Mountain. Okay. Georgia Fox. So ripping off ER seasons. She's playing the Memento. Wait, when does she go? She goes into CSI after this, right? Goes into CSI after. Okay. But I think CSI starting right around now. I feel like this …

The whole segment, as transcribed

He's in Too Fast, Too Furious. He's in Carnival, Batman Begins. He's in 30 Days of Night. He's in Sons of Anarchy for a long time. That's pretty good. All right. That's fair. I'll allow it. Apex Mountain. Guy Pearce, yes. Yeah. Carrie Ann Moss, probably coming out of the Matrix. Yeah. Maybe at this moment, you could say, but it didn't really lead to a ton for her. Yeah. So I would say this is Carrie Ann Moss, Apex Mountain. Okay. Georgia Fox. So ripping off ER seasons. She's playing the Memento. Wait, when does she go? She goes into CSI after this, right? Goes into CSI after. Okay. But I think CSI starting right around now. I feel like this is very Apex Bounty because she basically leaves ER to go to CSI. And she's on the first. CSI started already. So to me, I don't think it's ever been better for Georgia Fox. Okay. Always enjoyed her, by the way. Yeah. Very unconventional, everything about her. And they're bringing her back, right? Because they're going to start, they're doing CSI again. Yeah. Peterson needed a new roof. He lives like two blocks from me. Does he need a new roof? He hasn't really worked on the house in a while. Do you see him around? I've seen him a couple of times. It's great. You never go up to him though? LA, you can't break the code. You can't go up to a guy and just be like, I've spent nine hours talking about you recently. What was the movie we said he was second choice for that we just did from Goodfellas? It was Goodfellas. He was going to be the backup choice to Jimmy Conrad. She's playing, hey man, Goodfellas, tough beat. Yeah, but he's like, I have 11 houses because of CSI. I still want to do To Live and Die in LA. Maybe if we do, you can have him come on the pod. We're definitely doing To Live and Die in LA. Christopher Nolan, no. Steven Tablowski, no. The Discount Inn. I feel like this was Apex Mountain. When has Discount Inn ever been more prominent, more important? I can't think of a time. I think it depends on what you're in the market for. Fair. Joey Pants, no. But it's a really nice run for him. He does the Matrix Memento run too, just like Carrie Ann. I think his Apex Mountain is actually very close to this because he's on Sopranos, I think, a year after this movie. And I think that's his Apex Mountain. Because at that point, he's banked a bunch of good movie appearances and then goes right into a really, really, really, really great Sopranos character. I think that was it for him. Was this the Apex Mountain for Antero-grade amnesia? Yes. Absolutely. Is this, I mean, is this the, I would say, I ask you, is this Apex Mountain for amnesia? What are my other candidates? Like in society or just in film? I have film and TV. Really good Kelly Taylor amnesia plot. That's right. Season 7 and 90210. Lost had it? Yeah. I think it is, man. I'm looking and I just don't see it. Overboard? Hmm. What else do we have? Does Liam Neeson have amnesia in Unknown? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he did. It was a big soap opera gimmick. I used to be a general hospital guy when I was a kid. And somebody would get amnesia like every nine months. So yeah, he's got amnesia. It's a great device. I wish I would get amnesia. I've won so many Boston sports titles. I want to know what it's like. You want to go back? Yeah. It's like, oh, man. You want to wake up one day and have somebody re-explain Tom Brady and Mookie Bettson and Jamie Brown to you? You realize how many titles you won? I'm like, what? 12 titles. Probably unanswerable questions. Oh, wait. Can I have one more Apex Mountain? Yep. Tan suits. Not you don't see a lot of those anymore, but I feel like despite the fact that he spends basically a week or whatever living in it, Guy Pearce keeps that suit pretty crisp. Probably unanswerable questions. Was there a second attacker? So this just goes to the Joey Pants question, which is whether or not Joey Pants is telling the truth at the end of the movie to Leonard or whether that's like an elaborate story. I think there was not a second attacker. So you do think that Leonard is Sammy Jenkins? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And which ties into did his wife kill herself or did he accidentally kill her with the insulin shots? How do you think his wife died? So was there, but in this version of events, was there an attack at all? I think there was definitely an attack. And then he loses his memory and she's not convinced. Oh, so you're saying his wife just kills herself and he makes up the attack. Well, what's the traumatizing event basically that causes his memory loss? I guess that would be an attack on his wife. It has to be the attack, right? Right. And Joey Pants and Teddy is like the cop working the case and he loses his, he has anterior grade amnesia and starts, but there is, he's convinced that there's not, he's got that sort of Proustian grabbing her thigh memory that's not, and he's like, that wasn't insulin. She didn't take insulin. I go back and forth on it. I mean, Nolan has said the thing that's so amazing is that people refuse to believe Teddy because they find him so, um, so oily. Yeah. Irredeemable. But you know, that essentially, why wouldn't he be telling the truth? But there are other points in the story, in the movie where Teddy tells Leonard a story that's very elaborate that winds up being bullshit. You know, like whether it's like, I'm a, I'm a snitch. He's a cop from out of town. He's working with local guys. We're setting up this drug dealer, blah, blah, blah. Like he tells some pretty long tales. I don't know. I, I, I still, I guess, I, I guess I agree with you. I guess that, that he is Sammy Jenkins and that there was an attack on, on his wife that causes the problem. Do you wish Joey pants had just played Eddie Moscone in this? Yes. Moscone. You got him. You fucking got him. Just did that whole thing. He's telling me to fuck myself. You're telling, everybody's telling me to go fuck myself. I just want to see him running across Grand Central Market to go pick up the phone again. My big, probably unanswerable question is just what happens to this movie in the era of,

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What the board says

This film IS their apex
Joe Pantoliano19,060 ftThe highest point of the career. Carries 40 of 100 of this film.
Their apex is elsewhere
Carrie-Anne Moss20,350 ftThe Matrix Revolutions, 2003, by 1,872 feet.

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