Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
90:04 – 97:24… move. Yeah. You like it? Maybe I'll pick it up. Going forward. Sean shows up at four o'clock for a rewatch. Sorry. We just finished tapping. I'm here now. Apex Mountain. Newman. No. No. I don't know what it was, but it wasn't this. Cool Hand Luke. It's somewhere in the mid-60s. Mid-60s. Redford, I think, yes. Oscar. And then this 70s run. Probably. He's wrapped up 72, 73. I think this is like the specific moment where he could do whatever the fuck he wanted. Yeah. He's like, I call the shots on what I make. I'll work with who I want. I'll get the, I'm the first call. Yep. Way We Were and this movie, same …
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I did a film with Steve McQueen. Same thing. Yeah. Power move. Yeah. You like it? Maybe I'll pick it up. Going forward. Sean shows up at four o'clock for a rewatch. Sorry. We just finished tapping. I'm here now. Apex Mountain. Newman. No. No. I don't know what it was, but it wasn't this. Cool Hand Luke. It's somewhere in the mid-60s. Mid-60s. Redford, I think, yes. Oscar. And then this 70s run. Probably. He's wrapped up 72, 73. I think this is like the specific moment where he could do whatever the fuck he wanted. Yeah. He's like, I call the shots on what I make. I'll work with who I want. I'll get the, I'm the first call. Yep. Way We Were and this movie, same year. They're both two of the 10 biggest movies of the year. And he's nominated for an Academy Award. This would be a good championship belt to figure out. Is First Call. Oh, yeah. Who had the First Call championship belt. Redford is now, after this thing, First Call for like, I would say three, four years. Do you think DiCaprio is still First Call or is he First Call for a certain kind of movie? No, I think he's held the belt for 25 years. I think Chalamet's First Call now. I don't. I don't think so. I don't. Timothy Chalamet. Really? No. There's no proof that he can open a movie by himself. Yeah. But Leo's in his 50s now. He's 50. And we're now getting like a real tough test of whether or not he still can. But Killers of the Flower Moon, which is like four hours long, made over $150 million worldwide. Like, that's crazy. And everybody knew it was going to be on streaming. Yes. So you think Leo is still First Call? I do. I think the Heat 2 thing is remarkable. Because I think it was just like, this movie literally can't happen unless he does it. If he's doing it. And it's been true since Titanic that he's had that belt. So that's almost, what is that, 28 years? That's how Blood Diamond got in. You don't think Brad Pitt ever, ever. That's how Body of Lies got made. You don't think Brad Pitt ever grabbed it for a split second? Not really. I mean, F1 is Brad Pitt's biggest movie of all time. So Leo's had it since 98. Brad Pitt makes a lot of weird movies. Yeah. Maybe it wouldn't be a good podcast. It's probably more fun than the 70s, 80s. The 70s and 80s, I think, is a lot of fun because you've got Schwarzenegger and Stallone. And you've got those battles. You've got Bruce Willis. You've got all those guys. Cruz is in there for a while. You've got so many people. But I think Leo has so thoroughly dominated because he's also been able to play anywhere from 20 to 50 in that time. And he was ascendant right when Cruz became All I Do is Mission Impossible and weird. Harrison Ford got it after Witness. I think in 84 he had it. And then Costner came on his corner a little bit. But yeah. Hanks probably has it for a minute. Oh, no question. The 93 to 90. He kind of took it from Cruz. I think still does to some extent have it or has had it. You were shaking your head. Well, I don't know if he ever completely had it. But he did have the thing where you had a lot of scripts that were written for white guys. And then either Denzel got his hands on it or some agent was like, what if it was Denzel? And then they would have to refashion the entire movie around him, which is a really specific kind of power. But not the same as the Leo thing. Yeah, Lonzo originally white. Yeah. It was originally, they were flipped roles. It was going to be Ethan Hawke in the Lonzo role. Well, that was Eddie Murphy with Beverly Hills Cop. Yeah. It was written for Stallone. Well, anyway, Redford, I think, grabbed first call. Is it also Apex Mountain for George Roy Hill? I think it is. Because he wins Best Director. Now he has this and Butch. He can do whatever the fuck he wants after that. He has Waldo Pepper after this? Yeah. Scott Joplin? Yeah, probably. I don't think a lot of people knew ragtime music before this. Not a ton of people. And Marvelous Marv Hamlish? Yeah, definitely. Probably. Eileen Brennan? I would say Clue. I love her in Clue. She's amazing in Last Picture Show. It's weird. I would say Private Benjamin. Great in that, too. Is she nominated for that? I think she might have been. I think she was nominated for that. She was awesome. You might be right. I guess that would probably be it. She really just walks up and down a hallway in this thing. She's incredible, but she doesn't... She just has great presence. She's a good screen star. It's also awesome. Every time she leaves a room, Newman stares at the door for a beat. Yeah. That's his soulmate. Yeah. She has a very 1930s kind of face and look, too. She's a good fit for the madam in 1930. 1930s Chicago movies? More than Untouchables, right? The Public Enemy, probably. I would say Untouchables. Yeah. Yeah. How about Madams with a Heart of Gold? I don't know. See, I wouldn't pull your list out of your pocket. Who's on there? Madams with a Heart of Gold. My unmade Christie Canyon miniseries. So here was an Apex Mountain. Schlitz in the 1930s was apparently by far the biggest beer in the world. Did it have a... I wonder if it had a 70s pop after this, though. Might have. Yeah. I remember there were a lot of Schlitz commercials in the 70s for sports. It was like the last hurrah, especially for Bruins games. Schlitz is still... They still make Schlitz, right? Yeah, they do. I mean, by the time I was in college, Schlitz was like, we only have 10 bucks. Let's get a case of Schlitz. Let's get a case of Schlitz. I feel like Schmitz Gay, the SNL... Was based on Schlitz. Kind of like torpedoed Schlitz a little bit. They probably did. Robert Shaw, no. Con movies... I think, yeah. Because it's certainly the most successful one. It's not the one that I would go to first to watch a con movie. But it kind of created the genre. It did. It kind of invented it, yeah. And then, man, that's it. Cruise or Hanks? Cruise. For which part? For Hooker. See, this is my answer. It's Cruise and Hanks. This would be the perfect Cruise and Hanks movie. But using two timelines. No. No. Hanks is Gandalf. Hanks is Gandalf. Hanks is Gandalf. And Tom Cruise is Frodo. And they have to return the ring to Mordor. And Lonegan is Sauron. That's right. See, Hanks is Newman and Cruise is Johnny Hooker. And what year is this? Like, 1998? Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. Late 90s. Yeah, I think that's the answer. Our first tie for Cruise and Hanks. Hanks is older than Cruise in real life. Yeah. Yes. I want to say Hanks is like 68. Is he? Yeah. And Cruise is 60, right? Is that right? I thought Cruise was older. I thought Cruise was older than 60. Let's look it up. Cruise is at least 60. Hanks was doing... Tom Cruise is 63. Hanks is at least 67, 68. Because he was in Bosom Buddies in like 1980. Tom Hanks is 69. Yeah. Wow. So they're actually... I mean, I think Newman and Redford were like 10 or 11 years apart. So it's not that far. I think that works. Scorsese or Spielberg? I have Scorsese for the grit and Spielberg for the wonder of the movie. Should they have made this movie together? A co-director? Another tie. No, I think this is Scorsese. Okay. Yeah. There's something... There's a lot more stabbing. There's something very winning about the tone that George Roy Hill can hit that I feel like only Spielberg knows.
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