Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
105:22 – 112:06… met Gummer, the sculptor, I think when she was moving into a new apartment or something. It was right after John Cazale died. She met him shortly thereafter. Apex Mountain. Hoffman. I'm going to say yes. It's either this or Tootsie. And I think it's this. I think he grabs the championship belt pretty quickly and swiftly for about a year from Pacino and De Niro. And then De Niro grabs it back with Raging Bull. But I think he takes the upper hand in whatever that battle is for a year here. It's the number one movie in America and it crushes at the Oscars. Like it can't get better for Dustin Hoffman. No? No? I …
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Pregnant when she filmed this movie, which is why she's got a raincoat going on to cover up. But she was legit pregnant. Anyway. Yeah. She met Gummer, the sculptor, I think when she was moving into a new apartment or something. It was right after John Cazale died. She met him shortly thereafter. Apex Mountain. Hoffman. I'm going to say yes. It's either this or Tootsie. And I think it's this. I think he grabs the championship belt pretty quickly and swiftly for about a year from Pacino and De Niro. And then De Niro grabs it back with Raging Bull. But I think he takes the upper hand in whatever that battle is for a year here. It's the number one movie in America and it crushes at the Oscars. Like it can't get better for Dustin Hoffman. No? No? I don't know. Did we have this conversation on the Rain Man episode? We did. I think we said it was this. I was going to ask about it. We did. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. That's a very good case for it. Tootsie too. Yeah. That's a good case for it. Streep. No. No. Not ready to have her. I don't. I think she actually might be ineligible for Apex Mountain. She's been sitting on the mountain for 40 years. Yeah. I just feel like she just had a condo there in 1976 and just goes up there every once in a while. Justin Henry. Definitely. Yes. Yeah. Entermans. The baker. The baked goods. Oh my God. I love those donuts. Delicious. I mean. I used to love the coffee cake raspberry one. Oh. That's good. Yeah. Remember that one? Absolutely. Probably not healthy. The multi-pack. The multi-pack is a great one. You get the crumb donut, the powdered sugar, the cinnamon. Wonderful. I just feel like the classic crumb cake is just unbelievable. It's like some of the greatest food of all. Delicious. There's so much goddamn powder on that thing. You know? So good. It's so good. You look like Bobby Cannavale in the set of vinyl once you finish a piece of that cake. I'm going to say yes for Apex Mountain because this was the height of nobody understanding breakfast and what to eat. And you just would like grab Entenmann's at the grocery store to either cut the crumb cake or have the powdered donuts and to see it prominently featured in the movie. I was like, this has to be the peak. They had the delicious chocolate frosted Entenmann's donuts, which are wonderful. I still get those sometimes. Those are great. That's great. Great job at Entenmann's. Is Entenmann's still thriving? Are they still like the leader in the clubhouse on baked goods sold at grocery stores? They got to be, right? I mean, you can find Entenmann's at the grocery store. I would say yes. I would say they've moved more toward the 7-Eleven area. Divorce movies, I think yes. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, crowded field, but this is certainly Mount Rushmore and I think number one, right? What are your top three or four divorce movies? It's you have to do this one and then you figure out the rest. I still think Squid and the Whale is in there for me. Me too. I think mine's this marriage story of Squid and the Whale. I was just trying to decide if I would say I like Squid and the Whale more. I think I like Squid and the Whale more, if I'm being honest. Because Squid and the Whale is hilarious too. This movie is not that funny. It's not. Yeah. Reconcilable Differences is on there for me, but I think I'm the only one who saw it. What about Bye Bye Love? Bye Bye Love. Jane Alexander, the answer is no, but I don't know what it is. She won a Tony in 69, but I think all the president's men is probably her apex. Okay. French toast. I mean, has French toast ever been more prominently featured in a movie? And this was the height of French toast. Starring role in multiple key scenes. I have it coming on picking nits. I'll just say it now. There's no cinnamon. I can't shake it. Where's the cinnamon? And then where's the vanilla? Where are the flavors? We've got the eggs. We've got the milk. We've got the bread. We've got the butter. We've got the pan. At some point, we get the potholder. No cinnamon. Jungle gym accidents. Definitely apex mountain. Any other apex mountains? No. No. I mean, Benton. You know, like. Best director. Best adapted screenplay. Yeah. Yeah. Two Oscars. Number one movie of the year. Pretty good. Picking nits. We mentioned a bunch of these, but Ted not knowing what grade his son is in is just ridiculous. Awful. I know they put it in to say how self-absorbed he is, but that's ludicrous. The most self-absorbed person on the fucking planet knows what grade their kid's in. It's very tough. I can't believe they did that. What grade are you in first? Like, that's the dumbest moment of this movie. Hard to buy. I can't believe they didn't cut that out. The jungle gym scene we mentioned. Just like. Once you're up there with like an actual object. Any parent who's not on drugs is just like, oh, you got to get down. Like you're going to get hurt. Here's another one. Ted gets fired right before Christmas. Like December 20th. They're just like, you're out of here, Ted. They're not going to do that in mid-January. His friend. Not buying it. Mercenary. Jim O'Connor. Fucking asshole. Yeah. We did a lot of other nitpicks. Anything else for you, Sean? No. I just thinking back on that firing scene. It's just a couple of things are just a little hard to buy in the movie. They're like, they're really trying to create narrative tension so that you get even more on Dustin Hoffman's side. And every time I'm like, could this have happened this way? I mean, I know the world is cruel, but this way, this seems like a lot. He doesn't want to lose the account. Big account. Got to put Norman on it. No time to waste. Let's keep that in mind. When I fire you, Mallory, I'll keep that in mind. You know? Yeah. Who's my Norman? We can't lose FanDuel. You got to go. We can't lose FanDuel. I like in movies where the company is always some amorphous company like Mid-Atlantic's ready to walk. It's like, what is Mid-Atlantic? Mid-Atlantic. Is that like a college basketball conference? What is that? What does Mid-Atlantic make? I'll throw out a few other quick ones. The cafe that Joanna is creeping from in the window has no notes for her. Ma'am, stop pressing your face and hands against our front window. You're scaring the customers. She's there in multiple moments. I think they would probably ask her to leave. Also, when Joanna first calls Ted, I know it's been a minute, but Ted does not recognize his former wife's voice on the telephone.
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