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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

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With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan and Sean Fennessey · 5 May 2026

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85:38 – 91:56

… it's like, oh, Ted's brother and like donating kidneys to the brother. There's like, they build it up a little bit more about what he's been doing in between. Apex Mountain, Stiller, no. We're not there yet. Okay. I don't have Stiller. Diaz, I think, yes. I think she comes out of this. Is this her biggest movie? Because it's My Best Friend's Wedding the year before, then this. And I feel like she has the juice. Now that leads to Charlie's Angels. She gets 20 million for Charlie's Angels 2, I think. Are we sure it's not Charlie's Angels? It might be, but I feel like she was the anchor. She kind of takes Julia …

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There's also like a pretty pointless, but I guess if you're curious, one of the extended cut scenes is about Ted's family. And it's like, oh, Ted's brother and like donating kidneys to the brother. There's like, they build it up a little bit more about what he's been doing in between. Apex Mountain, Stiller, no. We're not there yet. Okay. I don't have Stiller. Diaz, I think, yes. I think she comes out of this. Is this her biggest movie? Because it's My Best Friend's Wedding the year before, then this. And I feel like she has the juice. Now that leads to Charlie's Angels. She gets 20 million for Charlie's Angels 2, I think. Are we sure it's not Charlie's Angels? It might be, but I feel like she was the anchor. She kind of takes Julia Roberts' ironically, like probably her title here. Right? She could have done whatever she wanted after this movie. Yeah. She's like two rom-coms late when I was looking at the IMDb because she eventually does it in the holiday. Sweetest Thing isn't really a rom-com, but. You don't think so? Well, it's a comedy. She just made more sex comedies than rom-coms. She was not really a rom-com. She's in the holiday, but she was not really a rom-com person. She didn't make it like a while you were sleeping or, but she really took some chances. She made like sex tape, you know? Yeah. She made the Malcolm Bidge movie. She did the Gangs of New York. Yeah. Matt Dillon, though. What's Matt Dillon's Apex Mountain? I think it's in the 80s. Do you think it's Outsiders? I think a Rumblefish or whatever. He felt like he was the biggest teen actor in the world in the 83, 84 range for a couple years there. The Farrelly brothers, yes. This leads to me, myself, and Irene a year later, which is a bonkers movie, a year and a half. I wrote down the Farrelly's and I think it's probably the answer, but, you know, Peter Farrelly won Best Picture. Like, whatever, 20 years later. So would you say this was Bobby Farrelly's Apex Mountain, but Peter Farrelly was winning for Green Book? I think it's theirs just because... As a combo, this is it. I think Peter Farrelly and Bobby Farrelly would probably go out and like, they could do a screening for this movie tomorrow and it would be full and they would be like, I don't know that Green Book has that legacy. You can't have a comedy do better than this, I don't think. Like, this movie was an absolute comedy phenomenon that made a ton of money and created, either created stars or made stars bigger. It's also just so striking because like, we just did Ghostbusters and to watch a movie where it's like, Ghostbusters still at the last 20 minutes is like kind of a sci-fi movie. Like, a lot of the jokes in Ghostbusters are said to the side of like the plot. This movie is like, every scene is a gag. Every scene builds up to a big, big punchline. The Providence Bruins? No. Chris Elliott? What was the Providence Bruins Apex Mountain? The huge poster in the one bedroom scene with Ben Stiller. But I'm saying, was there another Apex Mountain for them? No, they won a couple of AHL titles. Okay. Okay. Chris Elliott? Letterman? Yeah, I think it's Letterman. Apex, it's probably this. I mean, maybe that first episode of Get a Life where I was like, it's happening. Like, it's like the premiere episode. It's like, it's on Fox. Was it Sunday night? Like, after The Simpsons, right? Like, that was, right? Herman's Head hours. I do. I was more of a Herman's Head guy. Would you go funny cum scenes or something else here? I mean, Buffalo, Migs is pretty high up there for funny cum scenes, but it's unintentional comedy. This is the most intentional cum scene funny. What are some other cum scenes? Craig? Want to Google that for us? Yeah, I'll pull that up. Funniest cum scenes. Hold on, guys. Franks and Beans? Apex Mountain for... The terminology? The phrase? Franks and Beans. I think it's the funniest penis injury I've ever seen on screen. I will say this. Franks and Beans has been a running joke in my house ever since about actual Franks and Beans and, like, you know, changing... This could go anywhere. Like, I don't know where you're going to take this. Changing our son's diaper. Okay. Like, make sure you get under the Franks and Beans like that. It's just been in the lexicon in the Simmons house. Sorry, Ben. Miami comedies? I'm going to say yes. Yeah. Okay. Miami Vice is hilarious to me. Miami movies gets a little more interesting. I think it's Miami Vice. I think so as well. Are you excited? It's Scarface. What are we talking about? For Miami Vice 85? I'm not ready to talk about it. Okay. Did you want to do, like, a separate little segment at the end of this? Did you hear Sean's idea? Flipping him? Flipping him. Oh, making... Oh, making... MBJ is Crockett. MBJ is Crockett and Austin Butler is Tubbs. That got me excited. Right? Isn't that the move? That is the move. I don't think Austin Butler can be Sonny Crockett. But MBJ can be Sonny Crockett. Have we ever seen him smoke a cigarette? Uh... I feel like he smokes cigarettes and caught stealing, right? He does. I'm going to have to research it. Is that not what they're doing? It's not MBJ as Sonny? I don't know. I feel like it would have to be. That would be weird for Michael B. Jordan to be like, I'm happy to play second... Agreed. ...fiddle to Austin Butler. I just won an Oscar. Jamie did it. Yeah. And he was bigger at the time. And had come up... Was coming off an Oscar win. I guess you're right. Crazy suntance. It's actually the same thing. It was coming off the Ray win. Crazy brown suntance. I think, yes. Jonathan Richmond definitely is. Cruz or Hanks? I had Cruz as... Cruz as Ted or somebody else? I would like to see Cruz with the Chompers as Healy. See, I think actually 80s Hanks could do Pat Healy. Yeah. Oh, interesting. I had Hanks either as Ted or Pat Healy. Hanks could have done either part. Cruz could have done the Hitchhiker. Seven minute abs. I think Hanks is the answer. Scorsese or Spielberg? Tough one for these guys. I think it's Marty and it's Cape Fear. It's basically... It's just a thriller. That's good. The Catherine Trammell, would you throw your life away for this obvious stay away award? Is that for Mary? Who's the stay away? I think it's Mary just because she has all these psychos after her. Oh, yeah. Oh, once you find out her dating history and it's like you've dated NFL quarterback and

104:43 – 107:31

… Dillon. Because going back, you're just so surprised at how funny he is. And I can't believe that he didn't go on to do more comedy. Well, this is a little apex mountain-y because it's like, who won the movie is different than who won the movie. Right. Right. There's the best part of the movie and the person who benefited most from being in the movie. Which I think if you're doing that, I think it's Ben Stiller. It's Stiller. But when you walked out of the movie in 1998, probably Diaz. Yeah. Being like, wow. Who is that? Yeah. Well, also the Farrelly brothers, I would have been like, give me season tickets …

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Who do you think won the movie? Oh. We had three different choices. In the moment, it's Cameron Diaz. But I think if you watch the movie now, it's Matt Dillon. Because going back, you're just so surprised at how funny he is. And I can't believe that he didn't go on to do more comedy. Well, this is a little apex mountain-y because it's like, who won the movie is different than who won the movie. Right. Right. There's the best part of the movie and the person who benefited most from being in the movie. Which I think if you're doing that, I think it's Ben Stiller. It's Stiller. But when you walked out of the movie in 1998, probably Diaz. Yeah. Being like, wow. Who is that? Yeah. Well, also the Farrelly brothers, I would have been like, give me season tickets now. I'm with you guys. Where do you stand on the run after this? Me, Myself, and Irene. Shallow Howe. Hall Pass. All those movies. I didn't like Shallow Howe. I did not like, what was the other one? Me, Myself, and Irene. No, Me, Myself, and Irene was carried his peak. Like, that was worth seeing. I thought that was funny. Shallow Howe and Stuck on You. I wanted to like, Stuck on You. It just didn't work. Yeah. It's not great. It just didn't happen. And then Fever Pitch is in the front. I still like Fever Pitch. You do? Yeah. It's fun. I like it too. Craig, what was your take? I love this movie. The script is just really impressive. Like, the amount of callbacks that they're able to weave back into the story. Like, there is no stone left unturned. It's really impressive. Like, every little mention, her having an ex-boyfriend named Brett. Everything ties up in a really- Pac-Man. Yeah, in a really, really impressive way. It's just a great set piece comedy. And I think, I think the, I think there was a sweet spot for set piece comedies. And I think CGI kind of ruined them. Where I think, when you have to live in, like, the reality of what you're literally physically able to do while shooting a movie, I think set pieces were just way funnier because it was like real humans doing real stuff. And this is like a perfect sweet spot with that. And then once you got past certain, like, 2010s, there was like way more CGI and things and the humor to me felt more, like, artificial. Yeah, when Warren beats up Ted. It's real. It would be so fake now. Yes. Yeah. And I think there's like, Stuart looks like he took those bumps. But they would do it the way they do, like, those fake, like, those John Wick movies, like Bob Odenkirk action movies where it's like, oh, I'm like flying through the window. Because they always think bigger is better. And then with CGI, you can go huge. But I actually think it takes away some of the humanity of it. And so this movie is within, like, a 10, 15 year sweet spot of all the set piece comedies. In my opinion. I forgot to mention, I like when they try on the outfits. Oh, yeah. Warren's dressed as, like, a cowboy. And then Ben Stoner comes out with a pink superhero outfit. Also, a driving range on the water is, like, the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life. How many of those are there? It's probably bad for the body of water, though. Why isn't there one of those in LA? Anyway, I bet there is somewhere in the valley.

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