Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
9:58 – 12:43… movie is a great example of the Ben Stiller group. They were all in their early 40s at this point. They were at the peak of their powers. It was kind of like Apex Mountain for what can we get away with? And I think this is the end was the same thing for the Seth Rogen crew. They were all kind of reaching 40 years old. They have kind of done everything. They're like, all right, what's one last thing we can get away with? And then there was no new group that came up below those guys, which is why I think there's no Tropic Thunders or This Is The Ends now because, like, no group really, like, supplanted them and …
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Neighbors? Of that era. Was Neighbors right after it? Neighbors technically came after, but it's that, like, 2014 range. I think it's mostly because, like, I think this movie is a great example of the Ben Stiller group. They were all in their early 40s at this point. They were at the peak of their powers. It was kind of like Apex Mountain for what can we get away with? And I think this is the end was the same thing for the Seth Rogen crew. They were all kind of reaching 40 years old. They have kind of done everything. They're like, all right, what's one last thing we can get away with? And then there was no new group that came up below those guys, which is why I think there's no Tropic Thunders or This Is The Ends now because, like, no group really, like, supplanted them and came after them. And then 2017, things changed. You know, culture got differently. What's changed, man? What's changed? What are you talking about? I like to hear it. What's happening? At the end of the 2010s, culture changed for a variety of reasons. Things changed. There's a lot of stuff, but, you know, there's also, there's a massive, massive sea change in Hollywood, which is a lot of the people, several people in this movie, especially Downey, start participating in Marvel and in large-scale superhero franchises. And you can't really fuck with the money on those. Like, the next Tropic Thunder should have been about Marvel movies, right? You would do, like, I can't believe we're on movie 11 of this, and you would have all the fake trailers and the documentaries. The Boys does that a little bit. It does a little bit, but not in a, this is a movie, and there was an HBO show like a year or two ago that kind of came and went that was a little bit about this, but it's, it's, Tropic Thunder can make fun of something and you can be conversant in Platoon and Apocalypse Now and be like, this is so funny the way they're making fun of this. But even if you haven't seen it, you'd still laugh at some of the things that are happening. Tropic Thunder 2 is like Scorcher 8 then, right? Yeah. Basically. Yeah. Yeah. I have a lot of Scorcher questions coming later. I think I would have seen at least the first two in the theater, but I'm not sure the plot was. So this was one of the most successful Hollywood parody movies I think ever. Yeah. And when you talk about Big Picture, The Player, Network, what else is in there? The Player, Network, uh, Were they really flippant? That was a really bad one called, um, there was a really, there was a really bad one called, uh, Burn Hollywood Burn that had some people in it. I think at this point now it's like, well, the studio is the version. I'm trying to think of more. The studio I think probably was influenced by this movie in some degree. Oh yeah. The Kevin Bacon one, right? Oh, that's another good one. That's the Big Picture, is it? That's the Big Picture. That's the Big Picture, yeah. Kevin Bacon, Terry Hatcher, all those people in there. Yeah, sure. Swimming with Sharks, was that one of them? Yeah, that was the agent. There's been a couple of, like, agent, like, Hurley Burley. But then you know what you also have, like, around this same time is you have Entourage. Yeah. And Entourage
111:36 – 114:23… cruise playing Wes Les Grossman and then all of a sudden was like this is the most important edition of my life I've got to nail this and was really nervous Apex Mountain Ben Stiller Downey were in the ballpark Oh This is Iron Man same year I think this is it right Unless you were to say it was the in-game time because he's the biggest star I think so This is Vietnam War parodies would you go what was the Charlie Sheen one Hot Shots Yeah Hot Shots No I would say this We're done with Vietnam now right Yeah I wonder if it'll ever come back like World War II Like World War II is such an unambiguous like it's us …
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The last one is Hater went to audition for Tropic Thunder and saw a possible cruise playing Wes Les Grossman and then all of a sudden was like this is the most important edition of my life I've got to nail this and was really nervous Apex Mountain Ben Stiller Downey were in the ballpark Oh This is Iron Man same year I think this is it right Unless you were to say it was the in-game time because he's the biggest star I think so This is Vietnam War parodies would you go what was the Charlie Sheen one Hot Shots Yeah Hot Shots No I would say this We're done with Vietnam now right Yeah I wonder if it'll ever come back like World War II Like World War II is such an unambiguous like it's us versus evil but people crave like war stories They do They crave the Band of Brothers experience Cruz no Jack Black no Brandon T How do you want to call him? You should ask them when you're on the phone with them or there I'll call them right now Do it I'll call them right now Blind call to Brandon It's kind of an awkward call If you don't call anyone I'll call Sasha Gray Was Trapped with Thunder your Apex but he was in a lot of big movies Blind call Sasha Gray Yeah if you don't call anybody Like Did we get the Traffic Thunder premiere together? Yeah Jay Baruchel What was his big breakout joint? Was it What was the name of the movie? He's the lead of Undeclared right? I think this was the biggest thing he's been in I mean he's good in This Is The End too He's good in This Is The End I'm trying to look A million dollar baby Him is Danger I remember that Oh no His fucking shit is How to Train Your Dragon How to Train Your Dragon That dude's caking He's the man So he's the lead in How to Train Your Dragon Is he not? I mean yeah I saw a decade I was surprised he wanted to move back to Canada and this is The End Apparently that was based on real life right? That whole relationship between all of them? McConaughey no Hater no Politically incorrect but got away with it somehow comedies probably still blazing saddles Yeah That was like the biggest comedy in the 70s probably Yeah I mean 48 hours But so but you know like think about it all of these movies and every single one like Ringer of Nerds Animal House all of them they're all insanely politically incorrect Yeah I didn't have them on the list because the premises aren't like you know but like I don't know I guess so Cruise or Hanks a rare Cruise by the way is 18-3 watchables just extending his lead he's 4 above the next guy
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