Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
37:57 – 42:41… Kittens. So I feel like maybe that. It's a voiceover work or is that actually a live action film? He was in Transporter 3. Oh good for him. If we're going Apex Mountain we might as well start with him. I think this was his Apex. Yeah I think Chris this is Apex Mountain for Crabb. Absolutely because I don't know any other movie that he was in. That and also the second round of the Western Conference playoffs in 1980. When he hooked up with Arvita Savonis. For the incredible high low post. Who would have been better as Dr. Charles Nichols? Wow. Feels like this would have been like a good Jason Robards role. …
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Do you want to know what his last. Was that after he got drafted in the lottery? I do want to say that his last major credit from 2016 is a film called Gangster Kittens. So I feel like maybe that. It's a voiceover work or is that actually a live action film? He was in Transporter 3. Oh good for him. If we're going Apex Mountain we might as well start with him. I think this was his Apex. Yeah I think Chris this is Apex Mountain for Crabb. Absolutely because I don't know any other movie that he was in. That and also the second round of the Western Conference playoffs in 1980. When he hooked up with Arvita Savonis. For the incredible high low post. Who would have been better as Dr. Charles Nichols? Wow. Feels like this would have been like a good Jason Robards role. Some sort of old school. Yeah a little bit. Or like what about Hackman? Like what if you were just getting it. Hackman would have been it. But with Hackman we would have known it. Immediately. Yeah. Maybe John. John Voight even maybe too famous. Maybe that's why he was a good one. This is what Big Voight wants you to think. Yeah Voight. He attaches himself to all these roles and then you just can't stop thinking about Voight. So you're just like what if Voight played this guy? What's his quote in heat? There's a couple of there's a one where he's like he calls up William Fichter to just be like nobody knew the bonds were yours. To be that as it may. No reason we can't all get well off this. Wouldn't it be weird if we did Heat Rewatchables again even if we already did it? We'll only talk about Voight. What actors from Heat would have been a better Charles Nichols? Henry Rollins. Henry Rollins. I was going to say Ted. What's his name? Ted Levine. Ted Levine would be good. Oh Ted Levine is Dr. Charles Nichols. I mean. Done. Ding ding. There it is. There it is. Apex Mountain. Harrison Ford obviously not. Cee La Ward. No sisters. No. What about the once and again hive? Can't they get a little love here? Oh yeah. She was sisters. That was her breakout. Yeah. God I love Cee La Ward. Tommy Lee Jones I think unquestionably yes. Yeah. The only thing I would throw up against is No Country. Yeah. Which you could if you squint is related. Yeah. Right. I mean I think that was one of the reasons why that was so perfect. Are you in when we do No Country? I'm in. Yeah. Definitely. What a movie. Great movie. So you don't think this is. There's no argument for this being Apex Mountain for Harrison Ford? No. I think the first Raiders is. He's so good in Raiders. Raiders is such a good movie. He's. He was so the atypical action. I just want to. I just want to make sure we're. Yeah. I'm not sure whether it's. First Raiders coming in the middle of all the Star Wars trilogy. I don't know how that. How is that not the Apex? It's a go from one of the most iconic roles. Was Michael Jordan during when he won six titles? Did the Apex come in there? No. It's saying that he then in between doing those six titles he went and won the batting crown. Like in baseball. He went and he did another thing. I think I might be a little bit biased towards Han Solo. But. The one our man definitely. What did you say his name was? Katsoulis? Andreas Katsoulis. Yeah. A lovely guy. He loved smoking. His Apex was either this or when he smoked nine packs in one day in 1994. And this isn't Joe Pinaliano's Apex. No. But it did get me thinking, what was Joe Pinaliano's Apex? Wow. It's got to be Sopranos, right? 350. Vies your hello. Watching your back. That's going to require a little more initiative on your part. Oh, look at her face. Well. As Ralphie, but I mean, he was Guido the Killer Pimp. I feel like might have been his Apex. But now that movie doesn't mean anything to anyone under 30. Zach, you know what Guido the Killer Pimp is? I'm a big fan of him in The Matrix. The hard part about Pants is volume shooter, right? Yeah. A lot of credits. So even in 93, 94, when he's doing Fugitive, you've also got Robot in the family. You got Teresa's tattoo. You got Baby's Day Out. But then he comes back with Bad Boys. I don't have those things. He's great in Bad Boys. He will make five things a year, and one is great. How would you power rank your favorite Joey Pants movies? Because for me, it's like Eddie and the Cruisers. Okay. I'm looking through this right now. I'm going way back. Running scared. He's unbelievable. Pretty high on him in The Matrix. Good in The Matrix. Cypher? He's great. Risky Business has like, which was a very influential movie, and he's fantastic in that. Fantastic in, isn't he in Memento? Because by the time he got to The Sopranos, it was like, oh, Joey Pants. I agree. This 15-year history with him. I think you could make a case that it was The Fugitive. Because this was, if not the apex of his career, but this was the moment when people were saying, oh, I recognize that guy, but also saying, oh, I'm so excited he's there. You know, I think it sort of started to turn when he kept doing this thing that he does in this movie that became what he was known for. So this was the apex of him being- Likeable and welcome. He stopped being that guy, and he started being- His own guy, a little bit.
52:35 – 55:23… to that redirect. We can't get away with it anymore. But it was still in the prime of that redirect. What do you guys think? So maybe that should have been an apex mountain. Apex mountain for the redirect. It would have been an age of twist. Because now we do, it's just like there's a huge twist. Especially if this had been a Netflix show. I think Chuck Nichols would have either been his friend throughout the whole thing and was helping him every step of the way. Or Richard Kimball would have actually murdered his wife. Yeah. Right now, watching it now, Nichols' existence in the movie makes no sense. It's …
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Where they go and they get the different guys from the bus. They get the different suspect. Or they come to the house to arrest the son in the house. And I was riveted. Now, I feel like- Great redirects. But I feel like now we're used to that redirect. We can't get away with it anymore. But it was still in the prime of that redirect. What do you guys think? So maybe that should have been an apex mountain. Apex mountain for the redirect. It would have been an age of twist. Because now we do, it's just like there's a huge twist. Especially if this had been a Netflix show. I think Chuck Nichols would have either been his friend throughout the whole thing and was helping him every step of the way. Or Richard Kimball would have actually murdered his wife. Yeah. Right now, watching it now, Nichols' existence in the movie makes no sense. It's immediately obvious. Okay, one other thing, context or nitpick for you guys. When watching this movie the first time, were we irrationally excited about things like them using a helicopter to look for him? Or the scene where they're like, play back the audio tape. Isolate just the sound in the background. Can you do that? And the guy's like, button, button, button. That's an L train. He's like, I can do it. I mean, with the reel-to-reel tape going. I mean, I think at the time that felt probably a little bit exciting. It felt cutting edge. Yeah. It does not anymore. It does not. Not after Enemy of the State. That's right. Yeah, Enemy of the State ruined all of these movies. I don't know why he didn't turn them in right away. The friend. I don't really understand why Pravacic brought this much danger and murder to our lives. Yeah. They spent an inordinate amount of time talking about the Devlin McGregor fishing trip. Yes. Yeah. And I don't know why if either was the one-armed man in there because he was getting something or because he was actually going to kill everybody. I think he was doing security and it was like a pill that was bad. It gave people. No, I know. But. And so then when people started like saying like, I'm going to report on this, he's like, he's got to go up and clean up the mess. All right. So I just want you guys to know, I'm never going to ask to have anyone killed. But if I did, the guy would have two arms. That's right. Yeah. I just think one arm is too risky. If I'm going to commit murder, I'm going to commission a murder. I want two arms. Also, if you are a major pharmaceutical company's essentially hit man. Yeah. And you know literally where all the bodies are buried. Can't you squeeze out a nicer apartment? Yeah. Maybe something like lakeside. Great point. But he's spending all money on cigarettes, which is what we found out. I'm going to flip this one other way. I actually think that this speaks very highly of Edward Sykes. He has to be twice as good at being a security consultant with only half the number of arms. Oh, true. Because this is Devlin McGregor we're talking about. It's like Jim Abbott. Exactly. This is not some run-of-the-mill pharmacist. This is Devlin McGregor. Do you think that guy's boss is like, so here's the thing. We got to take care of Kimball. He's going to blow this whole trial up. And then Sykes is like, I got challenge accepted. And they're just like, look, Sykes, we love you. We love everything you do here. But when it comes to the wet work, when it gets hand to hand, maybe bring another guy.
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