Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
72:46 – 81:05… scene is one of the more believable sex scenes in movie history. Yeah. He's like ramming his tongue in her mouth. He's going for it. Yeah. So there you go. Apex Mountain. I took out all the people who obviously weren't Apex Mountain, like Brad Pitt. Ruben Eck. Errolman. Ruben Eck. Slam dunk. There's never been more of an Apex Mountain candidate. Ruben Eck is like in a theater production of On Golden Pond. He's like, I'm doing my best work. Ruben Eck was in one of my favorite cable movies and the band played on about how they tried to hide AIDS in the 80s. And he has like some great Ruben Eck scenes in that …
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Christian Slater, it was love at first sight. Working with Patricia was tricky because I was in a relationship. We both made attempts to be professional, but that age, it was difficult. The phone booth scene is one of the more believable sex scenes in movie history. Yeah. He's like ramming his tongue in her mouth. He's going for it. Yeah. So there you go. Apex Mountain. I took out all the people who obviously weren't Apex Mountain, like Brad Pitt. Ruben Eck. Errolman. Ruben Eck. Slam dunk. There's never been more of an Apex Mountain candidate. Ruben Eck is like in a theater production of On Golden Pond. He's like, I'm doing my best work. Ruben Eck was in one of my favorite cable movies and the band played on about how they tried to hide AIDS in the 80s. And he has like some great Ruben Eck scenes in that too. Ruben Eck is also an all-time Law & Order guy. He's been on like 40 episodes of Law & Order. Yeah, I love Ruben Eck. Big winner of this podcast, Ruben Eck. Apex Mountain, Christian Slater. I'm going to say yes. I'm going to go Heather's. Too early. I think it's pump up the volume. Because he invented podcasting. Yeah, good point. All right. None of us picked Broken Arrow or Hard Rain. Broken Arrow is great. I like Broken Arrow. Sure. That's when Travolta. That was the real comeback. That was when the wheels came off the steering wheel and he just started going for it. Patricia Arquette. She's had some incarnations over the years. I think he's got a boyhood. I mean, she won an Oscar for boyhood. Yeah, I was. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to go boyhood. Because she goes on. Wait a second. No, I'm not. Okay. Yeah, not personally. Personally, subjectively, I don't think it's this. Okay. Personally, for me, it's true romance. But career-wise, it's got to be winning an Oscar. Is this category supposed to be personal or objective? No, I just don't want to disagree with you. I think I have so much of a deeper. It's supposed to be when they were at the peak of their powers and their career and they had their most options and the most people respected what they were doing and the whole thing. What did she do right after this? She's pretty unknown at this time. A lot of bad stuff. She's pretty unknown at this time. She had a rough next seven, eight years. Yeah. Tony Scott, unequivocally for me, yes. This is the coming off a run. You think this over Man on Fire. Yeah. Because he had had these commercial hits and then it faded and people were like, eh, we sure Tony Scott's good. And then boom. And then that leads to Crimson Tide and the combo of those. His career was never in better shape than somewhere between True Run and Crimson Tide. But this is a flop, though. I think Crimson Tide is his apex mountain. Guys, he made Top Gun. What are you talking about? It wasn't a flop with critics. Top Gun's one of the biggest movie hits of all time that influenced an entire generation. And basically launches Tom Cruise. I'm trying to remember. No? I don't even like Top Gun that much. Here's the counter. I never felt like that was a Tony Scott movie when I saw Top Gun. Disagree. No, but you were eight years old. I'm telling you what it was like in the mid-80s. Oh, it came out? Yeah. When it came out, it was like- In retrospect, it was part of that of all his work. Yeah. But in the time, it was not like, whoa, who directed this? It was like, whoa, Tom Cruise is the biggest star in the world. Okay. Tom Cruise was the narrative out of that movie. True Romance, he was part of the narrative. And I think that's why I would say Apex Mountain for him. But I see the Top Gun thing. Because Top Gun was one of the five biggest movies of the 80s. I mean, it's definitely not- This is my favorite Tony Scott movie. So that's not Apex Mountain, though. No. I know. After about 25 podcasts, I've realized that that's what Apex Mountain is. I don't understand any of the categories. You don't understand Apex Mountain? I like that it's a little bit elusive. It's like the MVP award. That's right. That's right. What are we voting on? Everybody sees it differently. Can I throw this at you? Yeah. The most critically acclaimed movie he did out of these eight. Is that true? Somebody that was searching for critical acclaim, but was a commercial success. And now this movie, he kind of had his real chops as a director. Gosh, I wonder. Because this movie is not that well-reviewed. I guess it is. You're right. 92% you said. It is. Yeah. No, but the critics liked it. Even Ebert liked it, that fucking crank. Jesus. Bronson Pinchot? I'm going Cop 1. Cop 1 was a massive, massive hit. And he was like one of the breakout stars. What's he offer Eddie Murphy when he comes in the gallery? Oh, an espresso. Espresso. Make it with a little twist of lemon. Sizemore? Heat? I think I'm looking at the air. Yeah. The action is the juice is the definition of Apex Mountain. When you get to the top of Apex Mountain, someone says the action is the chicken. Chris Penn? No, it's dogs. It's reservoir dogs. Gotta be. I agree. Nice guy, Eddie? Walking? Hell no. No. What is the walking Apex? He's a fucking deer hunter. Can I make an early 90s walking case? Sure. SNL hosts it. I looked it up. Fall of 92. That's when he did Trivial Psychic and Stock Talk, which were like two of the best sketches in the history of the show. Trivial Psychic is still like probably one of the seven best sketches in the history of the show. Then he has this movie in 93 and then Pulp in 94. Somewhere along that whole line, it was like this awesome walking sense. Yeah. Where everyone was in on Christopher Walken. It was part ironic, but part he was a really good actor. Then there was like, that's when like, was it Jay Moore who does the walking imitation? All of it. It just felt like Walken had like a real moment there in that three-year stretch. But deer hunter has to be the Russian roulette in deer hunter. I think that's his Apex Mountain. Here are my three favorite super weird walk-in performances. Okay. One is True Romance. It's more of a heat check than a performance. Two is King of New York. Oh, yeah. Which is fucking amazing. And if you haven't seen King of New York, watch it immediately. The subway ride? Yeah. Three is Wayne's World 2. Which I can't overstate how funny and good he is. Which, by the way, same year is True Romance. Yes, same year. So that's the apex. That's that 90s time you're talking about. Flip side to that is just that in Deer Hunter, I actually do believe he's playing Russian roulette. Definitely. One of the most convincing performances ever. Also, in Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead in that 90s period. And he's great in that. Yeah, that's true. Trejo, Buscemi, or Michael K. Williams for this movie. They all would fit. Yeah. Maybe you gotta pick one. I have a definitive choice for this. Michael K. Williams. Yeah. I think he easily could have been in the Sam Jackson. Any of the Drexel scenes. Yeah. Totally would have fit in. I think he could have been. I don't know. I just think he would have worked in this movie. Could Buscemi have been Dick Ritchie? That's interesting. He's a little old. Or Elliot Blitzer. I think he's a little old for Dick and Elliot. Because. In 93 though? He looks a little old. Oh. I mean. You have to imagine Dick is like going out for like DiCaprio, Wahlberg. Like those kinds of like. He wants to be in that generation, right? That's what he's supposed to be. Buscemi's like a little like Coen Brothers-y guy. Mark Ruffalo. They knew. There's only one choice. Bruno and Boris, the bodyguards. They're just going for it the whole time. Yeah. They have like three lines. I fucking hate cops. I think Rubenek might win this one. I think Rubenek. We're getting Rubenek three awards. You're stopping me in the heart. I'm never going to get it. I'll say fucking Rubenek could almost replace Ruffalo here. The Elliot. I treated you like a son. I treated you like a son. And you stabbed me in the heart as the new they knew. Done. What a run for Mark Ruffalo. It's over. It's now the Saw Rubenek. Thanks for playing, Mark Ruffalo. What a great 57 episodes of the Rewatchables. Now we have the Saw Rubenek. Every single. At some point. You stabbed me in the heart. I'm going to be doing a rom-com Rewatchables with Amanda. And I'm just going to be like. I treated you like a son. And you stabbed me in the heart. All right. Awesome. Bruno and Boris, congratulations. We can't give it to Rubenek if we name the award after him.
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