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Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood 2019

With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey and Chris Ryan · 6 February 2020 · 26,315 feet

The claim

67:24 – 72:38

… a really precocious actress and she was famous for being highly professional on set. Yeah. And so there's some Jodie Foster in her character. Going to Apex Mountain. Tough one because this movie just came out like a week ago. I will say post-prime Brad Pitt. I don't think this is prime Brad Pitt but if you go post-prime, this is... What's Brad's Apex do you think? Probably Moneyball. Apex Mountain, that didn't make a lot of money though. What would it be then? Ocean's Eleven, probably. You think? Well, I mean, I think Apex might... Oh wait, hold on. Let's play this out. When does he start dating …

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think it's sort of based on Jodie Foster. Maybe. Because she was, she appeared on Gunsmoke and Westerns at that time and she was obviously a really precocious actress and she was famous for being highly professional on set. Yeah. And so there's some Jodie Foster in her character. Going to Apex Mountain. Tough one because this movie just came out like a week ago. I will say post-prime Brad Pitt. I don't think this is prime Brad Pitt but if you go post-prime, this is... What's Brad's Apex do you think? Probably Moneyball. Apex Mountain, that didn't make a lot of money though. What would it be then? Ocean's Eleven, probably. You think? Well, I mean, I think Apex might... Oh wait, hold on. Let's play this out. When does he start dating Jennifer Aniston? I thought you were going to say, hold on, let's start explaining what Apex Mountain is. No, no, no. People, nobody will ever figure it out. I think... You're right. It is Ocean's Eleven. It's Fight Club or Ocean's Eleven. No, you're right because he's dating Jennifer Aniston. They're the biggest couple in the world. He's got Ocean's Eleven. They're making sequels. You're right. Okay. Bad call by me. 1960s dog food, Apex Mountain. See those cans? 1969. I was going to say... Really crazy year, including my birth. Oh. Not mentioned when people do the 1969. But a lot of shit happened. Like what else? Year 11 Mets won the World Series. Yeah, that's just rude to bring that up. We landed on the moon? Yeah, that's true. It was in the top three. Yeah? You want to just say more stuff that happened President Nixon, year one? Coming up next! Last shit going on. Last shit going on in 1969. You just turned into a Tom Hanks CNN documentary. No, I don't know. That was a good joke. Any other Apex Mountains for you? It's too early. Los Angeles movies? Best Los Angeles movie ever made? You just said Heat is your favorite movie of all time on a podcast. That was a week ago. So we're starting from zero now. I'm just saying. It's in the conversation, isn't it? Sure. This, Heat, Boys in the Hood, Nightcrawler, like what else? Gwen said Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice was a big influence on this movie which I think came out in 69 and a lot of the characters and the looks that the characters have and the scenery and the setting is very Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice. That's also a great LA movie. Any predictions for Apex Mountain? 10 years from now? Like could this be Margot Robbie's Apex Mountain year right now? I hope not. No, no. Hey, having a conversation. I hope not because I think she has better things in store. I hope it's not Julia Butters' Apex Mountain. I hope it's not Margaret Qualley's Apex Mountain. I hope it's, do you think it's, I don't think we'll look back and think it's Pitt's Apex Mountain but it's an interesting, it'll be interesting to gather here, all of us. All right, we're almost done. Pick a nits. We picked a lot of nits already. This is where Sean's going to get it. Sean hates when I, I'm not going to touch the third rail but I'm going to go near it. Are we sure Cliff would be that afraid to get a blowjob from a hitchhiker that's not 18? He's a wife-killing stuntman and it's the 60s. Is he, all of a sudden he has a moral compass? This is a cool, you don't have to answer, Sean. Very cool, very cool moment for both of us here. It was 19, like Elvis married a 13-year-old. So the question is, are we sure Cliff Booth definitely would turn down a blowjob in a car in that setting? In 1969? Not answering. There you go. Did we ever figure out why Cliff's dog never shit and pissed in the trailer? Like how many hours could a dog be in one place? The extended cut, the dog is like the fourth character in the movie, yeah. Is it like a giant crate where dogs won't shit in their own crate and the trailer's just small enough that it feels like crate? Maybe it's a doggy door, we just don't see it. Any other nitpicks? No, actually I have very, I don't have anything for this movie. So you went teenager blowjob, dog shitting, and then you're done. Do you have any nitpicks for this? Because I'm not sure if we're supposed to think Cliff's a good guy or not. I think we're not. He's not a good guy. Neither is Rick. He's a wife-killing stuntman. That's actually important, I think, about the movie is because we love Leo and Brad, we think they're the heroes of the movie. They're the main characters, but Rick in particular is an asshole. Like he is a vain, selfish dick on the wrong side of his life. And that's the point of the movie. Yeah. And Sharon is obviously the goodness and she's the third part of the story and she is the good balancing out the evil in the history of Hollywood. And I think Quentin has a lot of admiration for those guys, those kinds of actors, but I don't think at any time are you supposed to think those guys are like good guys. Yeah, and I think that the theme of the movie, it's funny because it's like when you watch Tarantino movies, it's like, I think if we asked, if you asked every single person in this room, they would have like a different interpretation about what Pulp Fiction was like about, if it's about anything in particular. But I think that the themes and the ideas behind Once Upon a Time in Hollywood are pretty upfront. It's like what Trudy says to Rick where she was talking about the art of acting, and she's just like,

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What the board says

This film IS their apex
Brad Pitt25,780 ftThe highest point of the career. Carries 82 of 100 of this film.
Their apex is elsewhere
Leonardo DiCaprio28,760 ftTitanic, 1997, by 8,075 feet.
Margot Robbie25,660 ftBarbie, 2023, by 6,928 feet.
Austin Butler22,300 ftCaught Stealing, 2025, by 4,398 feet.
Al Pacino26,470 ftThe Godfather Part II, 1974, by 8,796 feet.
Sydney Sweeney23,550 ftImmaculate, 2024, by 5,890 feet.
Maya Hawke21,130 ftWildcat, 2024, by 3,470 feet.
Dakota Fanning20,900 ftCoraline, 2009, by 3,242 feet.

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