Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
49:59 – 52:44… to him in the ensuing years after he basically rises to the very top of Hollywood makes Braveheart is essentially like you know is like if you talk about Apex Mountains like making Braveheart is basically as apex as you can get in Hollywood and it all comes crashing down he had a lot of problems with alcohol he's got a lot of problems with saying really reckless and fucked up shit I think the thing that's aged the worst is that some of that is actually in Riggs and I guess like you could say it makes the character more realistic or something but there's like some weird like homophobic part of Riggs that …
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very troubled man and you can read a lot about what happened to him in the ensuing years after he basically rises to the very top of Hollywood makes Braveheart is essentially like you know is like if you talk about Apex Mountains like making Braveheart is basically as apex as you can get in Hollywood and it all comes crashing down he had a lot of problems with alcohol he's got a lot of problems with saying really reckless and fucked up shit I think the thing that's aged the worst is that some of that is actually in Riggs and I guess like you could say it makes the character more realistic or something but there's like some weird like homophobic part of Riggs that comes out a couple of times in this movie and since Gibson himself has also grappled with that I think it's like that's aged the worst yeah Gibson was in real life turned out to be a bipolar self-destructive alcoholic yeah and whether that was always the case or whether it came out later it's affected his work and the guy's been in a lot of great movies and he's been in a lot of iconic movies and I think if none of that stuff happened with him I think the whole Lethal Weapon franchise would be remembered a little bit differently even like doing this movie it's like I still love these movies I'm able in my head to separate the movie from some of the other stuff right I can watch O.J. and the Naked Gun and it's kind of amusing to see O.J. in there but it's not like oh man I can't watch the Naked Gun now this guy killed people it's just like alright he's playing a part in a movie sure I think what's weird about this one is Riggs was such a likable beloved character that it's just hard to separate the Mel Gibson piece from it I'm able to do it I enjoyed I really enjoyed re-watching this movie I really enjoyed watching Lethal Weapon 2 but yeah it just sucks that this was I think one of the biggest actors we had in the last 40 years and he was really self-destructive yeah yeah so I don't have much more to say on that one more what's aged the worst the daughter-dad dynamic is really strange I was hoping we would get into this I'm really attuned to this because I have a daughter she's 15 now and A my family would just never come in with a birthday cake when I'm in the bathtub it's just not happening it's just that was so weird to me and then at the end of the bathtub scene the daughter like leans in with like hey daddy it's my you know and kisses him on the cheek it's like he's naked in the bathtub what the fuck is going on and then when he leaves the house she's wearing the dress and he's like wow she's a heartbreaker all of it is so weird and on top of it they with the casting she's 27 in real life when she films this Glover's only 40 playing a 50 year old and Mel Gibson's 30
72:33 – 78:31… to each other Murtaugh said he was gonna retire Riggs told him not to and then that's on YouTube you can see that yeah the fight scene four minutes longer Apex Mountain Gibson no Glover no I feel like Glover is probably Lethal Weapon 2 right because then he's got Grand Canyon coming out that year and it just felt like he was yeah I mean I think you can make the argument that Glover is on Apex Mountain like like Silverado and Color Purple are the movies he does before this and I wonder whether that would be considered his Apex Mountain I'm not sure I would go Lethal Weapon 2 Grand Canyon it was a real that …
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to dive deep it's it's out there right the alternate ending was Riggs and Murtaugh saying goodbye to each other Murtaugh said he was gonna retire Riggs told him not to and then that's on YouTube you can see that yeah the fight scene four minutes longer Apex Mountain Gibson no Glover no I feel like Glover is probably Lethal Weapon 2 right because then he's got Grand Canyon coming out that year and it just felt like he was yeah I mean I think you can make the argument that Glover is on Apex Mountain like like Silverado and Color Purple are the movies he does before this and I wonder whether that would be considered his Apex Mountain I'm not sure I would go Lethal Weapon 2 Grand Canyon it was a real that was a thing when that came out that had that was another premiere magazine like oh yeah covered that like it was Godfather 2 that's like a weirdly problematic movie when you watch it now yeah it's kind of a precursor to Crash in some ways it really is it makes some of the same mistakes Crash did and tries to solve all these huge problems that America has tidally in two hours and I don't know there's some stereotype shit going on Busey Apex Mountain wouldn't that be Buddy Holly story right that's I mean he got nominated for Buddy Holly so I would say that was it how about Donner it's this or Goonies right I think it's probably this because it sets up the next three and makes him generationally wealthy helicopter shooting it's his super max contract yeah it's a super max how about helicopter assassination scenes I have another pick I can't think of another one go ahead Godfather 3 that seems fucking awesome yeah but there's not you don't get enough of the actual chopper in that like you just know it's there it's all the noise but you don't see a lot of flying there's not a lot of first blood yeah it's built around helicopter shooting for like four minutes there yeah how about cocaine balcony jumps this is probably it this is probably literally Apex Mountain for that can I give you another one sure Jenny Gump and Forrest Gump doesn't jump but maybe if you're just cocaine balcony hint of a jump doesn't happen I still say Jenny Gump because you're so terrified she's gonna jump we've been doing a lot of what ifs in this pod like you know if you switch the characters Jenny Gump with Amanda Hunsaker how is Forrest Gump's life different yeah she wouldn't have been able to be in it how about jumps into a giant inflatable trampoline life raft thingy number one number one for you yes you wouldn't go the game with Douglas no it's definitely this one it's it's different it's this one because the guy is just like because the way that it flips where he's just like oh yeah my boss is watching us come on give me a break and then he's like do you want to jump do you really I would watch a YouTube clip of all the jumps onto an inflatable thing from every movie just compiled into like I'm sure it's somewhere out there yeah I'm gonna look for that when we finish this podcast Christmas in LA movies so it's this die hard what else I think it's this or die hard basically yeah I like I think as a Christmas movie I go die hard yeah yeah yeah okay pick a nits just gonna say apex mountain for drinking Coors in movies can of course yeah how about mobile homes how about how about dogs with exceptionally sad lives in a mobile home I think nomad land is the apex mountain of mobile homes but I think I think this is this is it for Coors though picking nets what family comes into their dad's bath I'll just never get over how weird that was this is a you mentioned 80s tropes of these things that the 80s did over and over again like the guy who you think he's dead no he's getting up we got to shoot him yeah here's a here's another one this is an all-time classic why didn't they just kill these guys immediately movie like why are they torturing them what kind of information are they getting out of them just like just shoot them right away it's actually I would almost put it in what's age the worst is that they've captured these guys just kill them just kill them they're like we need to know what the cops know about our shipment it's like just move the shipment day you know yeah you guys seem to be the ones in control here so yeah my vote would have been move the shipment day to Wednesday and just murder Riggs and Murtaugh and move on yes these guys are supposed to be a high-level trained assassin slash coke dealers like just here's the problem just solve it Murtaugh's we're on a run because commando had this too did commando you're on for predator I'm saving you for predator thank you Murtaugh's gunshot wound kind of comes and goes in this way you get shot in the desert I would say in the 80s in general flesh wounds seemed to happen more you know what I mean like it's just like through was hey that was said a lot it's just a it's just an it nicked me yeah right yeah I feel like he gets shot point-blank range by a guy named mr. Joshua he probably murdered multiple people in the movies yeah you're probably feeling it next 36 hours would be like I guess any other picking this other the ones we've mentioned yeah so we talked about Murtaugh turning his front yard into a UFC event I would also say that I didn't notice this before they didn't hear the helicopter come into the Huntsackers like right you just there's just a helicopter 15 feet away and the guy's like a helicopter that are like on the other part of LA unless unless that's the problem they're just thinking it's just an LAPD chopper but like that helicopter is real close so for for Riggs not to hear that would be pretty hard also my favorite nitpick is they're walking in the parking garage after they first met after Riggs and Murtaugh first meet and Murtaugh's like pulled your file saw you were part of the Phoenix program assassinations it's
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