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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

Sleepless in Seattle 1993

With Bill Simmons, Juliet Litman and Amanda Dobbins · 14 February 2023 · 25,136 feet

The claim

62:50 – 65:36

… extinguisher. Unknocked up? Yeah. What do you got this time? I just think this is by far Rosie O'Donnell's peak in her life. She's just so good. It's not even Apex Mountain. It's just this movie owes a lot to Rosie O'Donnell. She is the perfect, grizzled friend. She's so good in it. I can't believe it because I do not like her. I don't like anything else she's ever done. I liked her in Beautiful Girls. I liked her in League of Their Own. I loved her talk show. You did? I'm a child of the 90s. I went home. She wanted Tom Cruise to come on the show. I did. I was just going to say, I didn't like the Tom Cruise …

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Last time, Juliette actually caught fire and we had to blow her out with a fire extinguisher. Unknocked up? Yeah. What do you got this time? I just think this is by far Rosie O'Donnell's peak in her life. She's just so good. It's not even Apex Mountain. It's just this movie owes a lot to Rosie O'Donnell. She is the perfect, grizzled friend. She's so good in it. I can't believe it because I do not like her. I don't like anything else she's ever done. I liked her in Beautiful Girls. I liked her in League of Their Own. I loved her talk show. You did? I'm a child of the 90s. I went home. She wanted Tom Cruise to come on the show. I did. I was just going to say, I didn't like the Tom Cruise thing. Yeah. Well, I did. And I liked the talk show. Wow. My friend Daniel produced that show for a little while. You're not going to believe this, but Rosie was hard to work with. Yeah. I'm shocked. Are she and Madonna still friends? I don't think so. I don't know. Okay. Not that hard of a take. She's great in it. One of the most ripped off characters. Yeah, of course. The Rosie O'Donnell sleepers in Seattle best friend character. Both of these. Yeah. The best friend character. But I guess you could say when Harry met Sally really started it, right? Yeah. Carrie Fisher and Bruno Kirby. Yeah. But Carrie Fisher's character is so different in it. And like, I don't know. She's not really a sidekick. She has an arc. Yeah. You're right. You're right. I know you're right. Yeah. Tell me I never have to be out there. She's great in that movie. That could have been a good spin. Fantastic. I would have watched a spinoff movie of her character. Oh, definitely. She's great. That would have been a good sitcom. Her and Bruno Kirby. I wish we could do Carrie Fisher's career over again. Yeah, me too. I think her voice is still available. There's a whole 1979 to 1988 arc for her that's just completely different. Because I think the Star Wars thing was so overpowering. And the substance abuse. Well, that wasn't helping her. Her and Margot Kidder. Both of them were really good actresses. Really attractive. Really distinct. And I just don't feel like they maximized it. Love Carrie Fisher. It's frustrating. Absolutely. Do you have an out of state? No, I do. What is it? A year and a half is way too soon to be shopping for a new wife. I'm sorry. We are violating all sorts of timelines here. Don't even get me started on introducing Victoria to the little kid after like one date. That's not responsible. I had that in nitpicks as a child of the worst. It was pretty early. A year and a half? And you're just supposed to be totally over it and ready to be in a new relationship? I, frankly, was offended on behalf of the ghost wife. Isn't it? Don't people say, though, if you're happily married and then you're widowed, you end up with someone sooner? Sure. But once again, I may have been watching this movie from the perspective of the ghost wife.

91:38 – 98:27

… this off? Rip off the Soup Nazi from this? I think no. I think probably someone encountered the Soup Nazi. Yeah. Okay. It was probably a New York thing. Yeah. Apex Mountain. Tom Hanks. 93. He's got this in Philadelphia. He's about to make Forrest Gump. I think Forrest Gump is his Apex Mountain. Okay. Because after that, you're just making any Tom Hanks movie. I don't know if he's quite there yet. He's a year away, but we're close. It sets it up. And it's also a giant fucking mountain. Yeah. Like Tom Hanks' Apex Mountain is like you're climbing it for- It's like the- It's Everest. It's the 100-hour final of the …

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It's about the Soup Nazi that then shows up in Seinfeld. Yeah. So I had that in probably unanswerable questions. Did Seinfeld rip this off? Rip off the Soup Nazi from this? I think no. I think probably someone encountered the Soup Nazi. Yeah. Okay. It was probably a New York thing. Yeah. Apex Mountain. Tom Hanks. 93. He's got this in Philadelphia. He's about to make Forrest Gump. I think Forrest Gump is his Apex Mountain. Okay. Because after that, you're just making any Tom Hanks movie. I don't know if he's quite there yet. He's a year away, but we're close. It sets it up. And it's also a giant fucking mountain. Yeah. Like Tom Hanks' Apex Mountain is like you're climbing it for- It's like the- It's Everest. It's the 100-hour final of the challenge. It's like you got to sleep on it and rest up the next day to keep climbing. Stand overnight for as long as possible. There's like cabins halfway up. I think yes for Seattle. This is it? This? I think 93 is Apex Mountain for Seattle. Okay, sure. That is true. It's got the most going on that it's ever going to have. Just a great place. Right. Like I wish I had lived there after college. It was so cool. I wish you would live there too. I feel like you feel so much like warmth towards Seattle. I think it would have been great. It would have been great. I would have been so in on coffee. I would have bought Starbucks stock. Yeah. It would have been awesome. Do you like the weather? I would have been like Campbell Scott in singles just like at a Soundgarden show like kind of staring at somebody from 20 feet away. Meg Ryan, I say yes. I say yes too. I do too. This is her best- I don't even think it's a bait. No. I don't think she makes another movie that's like as good. She could also eight straight years of you could just, you could get a movie funded if she came into it. And she's probably the number one choice for, probably supplants Julia because Julia's got, you know. Yeah. She had a couple, she had Hook and Flatliners and there's some off the set stuff with her. Meg Ryan becomes the safe bet. This cements her status and kind of writes the check really for the rest of the career. Yeah. This is like, this is the peak for sure. I think this is the most like close to a definition of Apex Mountain that we could find. And then a couple years later, she's like, I have no challengers. And then Sandra Bullock's like, I'm coming. With Bill Pullman. I'm coming for you. I love Sandra Bullock so much. She's great. She looks so good in Speed. Such a great cameo. I honestly thought you were going to say she looks so good in Lost City, which she also does. She's good for 30 years. She's great. Young Sandra Bullock is like, wow. The best. I don't know what, it took an extra five years for her to become a star. It's just like, what were people doing? Maybe she wasn't a good auditioner. Maybe. She was a tiny bit younger, I think. Yeah. I liked her in Love Post number nine. Go way back. Nora Ephron. I don't know. I don't know. You guys tell me. It probably is. Yeah. The rest of what she does based on the success of this and she's able to use it to like. Right. And this is like, When Harry Met Sally is the breakthrough and then this cements her and obviously she also directs it. Yeah, as a director. Also not a slew of successful female directors in the early 90s. No. No. Because Penny Marshall, I think, was the first one with Big. That was 88. Yeah. Because we just did that one. It was the first hundred million dollar movie with a female director. So, first wave. Radio advice shows. Hmm. I think it's, I think. Probably not. No. Love line. How about Brooks Robinson? He won a World Series. But he gets a whole scene in here talking about how important Brooks Robinson was. Yeah. It's a really good letter. They breeze through it, but I also would respond to it. So, you're not a huge baseball fan, Amanda. I dabble. You dabble. I grew up in Atlanta in the 90s. Okay? Fair. Yeah. But if you hear Brooks Robinson, do you think of this movie or do you think of the 71 World Series? I absolutely think of this movie because I wasn't alive in 1971. I think most people would think of Brooks Robinson as like sleepers in Seattle, Brooks Robinson. Not like a World Series. I think he won the MVP. Rosie O'Donnell, I think we all think. Definitely. I think definitely. I think it's her movie Apex Mountain, but I think having her own show has to be Apex Mountain. But I think she gets the show because of her movie career. Oh, fair. Yeah. Okay. And this is after A League of Their Own. So, yes. How about the Empire State Building? No. What's Apex Mountain for the Empire State Building? Just being the Empire State Building every day. So, it's like in the 1920s? Yeah. It's like, here we are. Tiramisu? Oh, that's a good one. No, I think winning the Food and Drink Award is enough for Tiramisu. Okay. You know? Houseboats? So, I think maybe. Maybe. I was thinking about this. What's a better houseboat? It's a really, really good one. I feel like just walked up to somebody and was like, houseboat, what's your first thought? I'd be like, Tom Hanks, Sleepless in Seattle? Yeah. I think so. Characters named Clarice now. But we are in a Clarice run right now. Yeah. I don't know. All right. Best racehorse name? Sleepless in Seattle is a great name for a horse. Beats Sleepless in Seattle. What about High and Goodbye? That's really good. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. High and Goodbye. I like it. Picky Knits. We covered... There's a lot. An eight-year-old and their ability to fly in a plane, land, get a cab, get to the plane, get to the Empire State Building. Also, I've had an eight-year-old boy. I'm positive they're not kind of just hanging out on top of a building for 10 hours with a knapsack. They would be scared. Yeah, he does look scared, though. That scene is really sad. They would melt down. People would worry about him. Yeah. People would be coming over them saying, where are your parents? He's there for... Even in 1993, parenting was different then, I'm told. No. Yeah. At some point... At some point, people are like, what's going on with this kid who's just by himself for 10 hours? How are Walter's allergies this bad? I have a follow-up nitpick. Okay. Which is that Walter's allergies are not adding up for me. Because he's allergic to wheat, but he ordered a lettuce and tomato on white. Right. Like, wheat is also in white bread. Right. Like, what are we doing? Also, there's... Flowers he's allergic to. Sure. I mean, but that seems like environmental. Yeah. So he needs the humidifier. It does look like a nice humidifier. I was like, does he have sleep apnea? I was like, what's going on there? There's not medication for Walter? There's not like an inhaler he could have used? He doesn't know if he's allergic to salmon at this point in his life. I know. Did they even run like all allergy tests on him that tell him exactly what he's allergic to? All right. I mean, this is what I'm saying. I have questions. How does he go to any restaurant? Like, how can he trust that there's no contamination? And he's at the Christmas dinner with like a full plate.

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What the board says

This film IS their apex
Meg Ryan24,800 ftThe highest point of the career. Carries 80 of 100 of this film.
Their apex is elsewhere
Tom Hanks28,890 ftForrest Gump, 1994, by 8,647 feet.
Bill Pullman21,050 ftZero Effect, 1998, by 2,998 feet.
Carey Lowell18,070 ftThe Guardian, 1990, by 442 feet.

A grade for each call is not built yet. The board's answer is shown; whether the pod landed on it is a separate judgement, and it is not made here.