Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
13:59 – 16:45… years. Anita Baker's rapture, huge. And then the Fab Five, Jalen Rose and C-Web now playing together, AAU. Like, the Fab Five is forming. I'll just go early. Apex Mountain for Detroit. I think this is it. It's tough to beat until the Jared Goff Lions win a Super Bowl, which I don't know if that's happening. 87 was a hell of a time. And listen, the best high school football player in Detroit at that time, Jerome Bettis. That was 87. He was killing it, about to go to Notre Dame. Not Michigan. They lost him. But like, 87 Detroit was cooking. Like, young, young, Do we have young Eminem there too? Well, he's …
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Red Wings made the conference finals for the first time in six years. Anita Baker's rapture, huge. And then the Fab Five, Jalen Rose and C-Web now playing together, AAU. Like, the Fab Five is forming. I'll just go early. Apex Mountain for Detroit. I think this is it. It's tough to beat until the Jared Goff Lions win a Super Bowl, which I don't know if that's happening. 87 was a hell of a time. And listen, the best high school football player in Detroit at that time, Jerome Bettis. That was 87. He was killing it, about to go to Notre Dame. Not Michigan. They lost him. But like, 87 Detroit was cooking. Like, young, young, Do we have young Eminem there too? Well, he's definitely alive. I don't know if he's like drawing wraps on the chalk on the sidewalk. Let's throw him in. Let's help that case. Come on in, buddy. Come on in, Eminem. But, great times all around. With Sanders, he wasn't on the Lions yet though, right? No, Sanders was 89 draft. So, he was at Oklahoma State. He's coming. They got their eyes on him. The Lions are being bad and paving their way for Barry Sanders. Anyway, great time for Detroit. And then Verhoeven. So, big Dutch filmmaker in the 70s. Did multiple Rucker Hauer movies overseas? Dutch. Have we done a movie with Rucker Hauer yet? Have you done Blade Runner? I don't think we have. Yeah, I don't think so either. I can't think of a Rucker Hauer movie. Well, the one that we would do is Nighthawks if we wanted to go. Stallone, Billy Dee Williams, Stallone trying to kind of zag, trying to zag away from Rocky. I don't know how you feel about Nighthawks. I'm into Nighthawks. I'm into Ladyhawk as well. I like all that stuff. Yeah. So, Howard, he was basically like Dutch Robert Redford, even though he was German, whatever, but he was in all these different movies that Verhoeven did. So, he bangs out Robocop, Total Recall, and Basic Instinct in a six-year run. Those are three movies in a row that he made that we have now all done in the rewatchables. Little Horny, apparently a complete asshole on the set. Yes. Didn't really understand how American film sets worked and just yelled at everybody until people rebelled. And then, after Basic Instinct, an all-time classic, created a historical epic based around the Crusades that would have starred Arnold Schwarzenegger. Hmm. It went into pre-production in 1993, and then our guys from Carol Co. pulled funding from the project because they were going bankrupt. We're back. Yet another podcast with Carol Co. The boys are back in town. Their bankruptcy cost us an Arnold Schwarzenegger, Paul Verhoeven, Crusades movie. Yeah. See, I bet the Carol Co. financiers, there was a scene in the Crusades movie
86:24 – 95:19… need the violence. And then, um, the film's cars, the police cars were 86 Ford Tauruses. Yep. Probably the peak for Ford Taurus. I guess we'll cover an apex, apex mountain for Ford Taurus for sure. And then, uh, RoboCop, huge VHS rental in the, uh, in 1988. When the biggest, I saw it massive longest waiting list for, of the year. Uh, and then a little bonus, Lisa Gibbons, deep dive for you. Well, give it, give it to me. She has three grown children and a rescue dog named Biggie. Okay. She's into rap. She did Tony Robbins infomercials in the eighties, which I forgot. She hosted her own daytime show in the …
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the whole point of this is we're making fun of this stuff. Like we need the violence. And then, um, the film's cars, the police cars were 86 Ford Tauruses. Yep. Probably the peak for Ford Taurus. I guess we'll cover an apex, apex mountain for Ford Taurus for sure. And then, uh, RoboCop, huge VHS rental in the, uh, in 1988. When the biggest, I saw it massive longest waiting list for, of the year. Uh, and then a little bonus, Lisa Gibbons, deep dive for you. Well, give it, give it to me. She has three grown children and a rescue dog named Biggie. Okay. She's into rap. She did Tony Robbins infomercials in the eighties, which I forgot. She hosted her own daytime show in the nineties for seven years. Forgot that. Seven years. That's a good run. What do you have for, uh, Lisa Gibbons over under marriages. I'll give you over under three and a half. You told me how many times Lisa Gibbons has been married. Lisa Gibbons marriage is over under three and a half. I would go under with three. It was four. So the overheads. Yeah. She had Fandle cover that one. Um, but she's settled down. She's living her life. 68 years old. Macaulay is learning about Vincent Hanna and he hears he's been divorced three times. Cause he's out there chasing guys like you. Lisa Gibbons out there, maybe chasing those celebrity stories. Right. I get it. Apex mountain, Lisa Gibbons. Not yet. No, I think getting your own daytime talk shows, probably apex. For seven years. Yeah. Detroit. I don't know. It's pretty 87. Pretty good in Detroit. Early nineties, bad boy. Pistons, Barry Sanders. Early nineties. It's gotta be good. Peter Weller. I'm going to say yes. Absolutely. I love Weller, but this is all I got. Verhoeven. No, but I think it's basic instinct for him. So it's five years later. Basic instinct was bigger than total recall, which was big. I think it is too. After basic instinct, there's like this guy's a guy, uh, movie heroes dying with the Christ arms throwing up fallback. I think it's platoon, but we're right. We're right in the, uh, I think if you combine it, this is kind of peak for that. And then we're right toward the peak of the puppet falling backwards as our character, but it's actually Alan Richmond. They figured it out. Nancy Allen. No, uh, famous Boddickers. See, Mike Boddicker. Sure. Uh, really good eighties AO pitcher. The Red Sox trade for him in, in, uh, 88, um, to make a little pennant push. I'm sorry, 80. They traded for him in 80. Yeah. 88. Um, so the only two Boddickers I can think of, I don't, I don't, I didn't even know the picture. So yeah. Yeah. Uh, Ronnie Cox. I'm going to say he's got this and Bev too. In the same year. This is, this is, this is Ronnie Cox, apex mountain. Great actor too. I love that guy. Two years earlier is envision quest with Linda Fiorentino staying at his house. Yeah. Modine, the horniest character in history. Unbelievably horny. Um, Miguel Ferrer probably. Yep. Yeah. Bob Morton. Great. Kurtwood Smith. Probably that 70 show. That was a pretty big show for like seven years. Uh, massive show. And then it's got Kutcher and Mila and, uh, one of its characters is in prison now. Like just all kinds of stuff to talk about with that show. And yeah, I think it's, I've never seen one episode, but apparently he's really good in it. He's the dad. Important show on the Reddit conspiracy board. Uh, futuristic cop movies. Hmm. No, I mean, you got the blade runner. I mean, blade runner minority report. Blade runner did a lot to inspire this movie too. I think it's blade runner still. I agree. Cruz or Hanks. Um, this is so funny. Robo Tom, which one do you go with? I did Cruz. Cruz is way funnier. I think that Cruz in the first 15 minutes, Cruz getting shot, Cruz having to take his helmet off and having like the bald Cruz cap on. You don't see cops a lot. You don't see cops a lot. Like, I feel like the only time maybe he has his minority report. He's never really been in like a blue uniform. Hanks did it in, in, um, uh, drag net. And he did it in the one with the dog, uh, Turner and Hooch. I think it's probably Cruz. The one with the dog. Yeah. I mix it up with canine, which was John Belushi. Turner and Hooch. You mix it up with canine. What's happening? That was like. Turner and Hooch is a classic. Are you going to do the Turner and Hooch rewatch? What's it? Listen, if there's ever a dog month, Turner and Hooch will be in dog month. Dog month. It's good. Dog month. High ratings. People love dogs. I would go with Cruz though. I would go with Cruz. Me too. Scorsese or Spielberg. Interesting. This could go either way, but this feels like very Spielberg trying to embrace his dark side, but not really getting there. The problem is the hard R, uh, the hard R rating. Scorsese has to do it. I mean, the Coke scene alone is him. Spielberg did this movie. It was called AI and Haley's old Osment was Robocop. Yeah. You're right. It's Scorsese. It's a good call. Scorsese. So he's like, he's like, how many, how many cocaine scenes are in there? Like we got two. It's like, I'm in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What role would Philip Seymour Hoffman play? Clearly Boddicker. Hmm. What would you have done? Robocop? No, no, no. I saw this as like young, young up and coming, like twister, boogie nights, Philip Seymour Hoffman. Miguel Ferrer. Not even him. Like one of the like people in the lab, like who works on Robocop. And he kind of has like Scotty J energy, you know, and he's like a lab coat and he's walking next to Robocop. He's like, I like your suit a lot. It looks really sexy. Thank you. I really like your name. Thank you. Like, I think he's just one of these guys who steals the scene despite having like two lines. I love him there. He could have been Kenny. Oh, you love Kenny, dude. Kenny is a hilarious, hilarious. Oh, sure. I'll volunteer boss. He could have done it like with his son of a woman kind of Phil Hoffman. Anyway, Bill, let me, let me give you, there's one apex mountain. I think is interesting. Yeah. Do you think, is this apex mountain for violent scenes that are hard to watch? I'm talking about Murphy's execution and I have, I have a list. Okay. Oh, I can't wait. All right. So you got at the end of casino, Tommy in the cornfield gets beaten up by Frank Vincent. It's tough to watch. Uh, the private Ryan slow motion stabbing in the end when they're in the room. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't, um, Gandolfini in Alabama and true romance is brutal. I, that would have been my pick. You have the hobbling in misery where she breaks his ankles, which I actually think is kind of funny. Um, and then there's like really horrible stuff like the American history X curb stomp, which is terrible for a million reasons. Uh, irreversible has an, 11 minute scene. That's unwatchable, but I kind of, the true romance one, especially the director's cut is really tough. It's not a fun topic, but it thought, it thought of this because I still have trouble watching the scene. And I was like, is this the hardest scene to watch and put it this way? When I show my little kid content now, like I don't care about profanity. And usually I don't care about violence. It's the sex. I try to keep him away from. He's only 11. I would not want him to watch this movie yet. I don't want him to watch that scene of Murphy being killed. It's just too much. Like I, I, I saw it too young and I don't want him to. It's intense. I would have thrown reservoir dogs with the cut in the air off. Uh, Michael Madsen, our guy, um, by the way, species pod. Fantastic. Just fantastic. Oh, thank you. One of the, one of the all timers. Um, yeah, that Gandolfini scene is, is I think that's the whole point though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's some other ones. Man on fire. When he's torturing the guy in the car, but you're kind of rooting for him to do it. I know. Pick a nits. Yeah. Whose idea was it to give Ed 209, um, actual bullets for the boardroom demonstration? Maybe we just go with blanks for the demo. How about just blanks for the demo? Just change out the bullets. You're arming him with real bullets. What if something goes wrong? They're ripping out wires from the control board. Maybe it just not load Ed 209. Unbelievable. It's not like he, it's not like Ed 209 went to the store and bought bullets. Like they're arming him with the bullets. With a lot of them too. Yeah. Uh, hot take. Did Murphy deserve to die? They go into a warehouse warehouse loaded with gunmen that they just chased. There's no backup coming for 20 minutes. Nope. There's no harder place to navigate than a warehouse with nooks and crannies and levels. They're like, we'll go in first. The rest of the guys will come in later.
97:51 – 100:40… that's just insane. They didn't think of that. He's chasing criminals. There's criminals go up and down stairs. He didn't figure this out. Is that two on Apex mountain for worse new technology rollout ever? It's like him, Google glass, ESPN mobile, and Ed 209. Like what? That's the worst thing I've ever seen. Really? Yes. Here's my last one. Was Clarence Boddicker, was he a wanted criminal or not? Yeah. No, he's wanted for 31 cop killers, 31 deaths on his watch. The, the mob boss of old Detroit. But then in the last half hour of this movie, he's just strolling into Dick Jones's office, going through saying …
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It's like a mouthpiece in boxing. Like when you know you're in battle, you pull it down. Like a welder's mask. Yeah. Ed 209, not being able to go downstairs. I know it's funny, but I asked him like, that's just insane. They didn't think of that. He's chasing criminals. There's criminals go up and down stairs. He didn't figure this out. Is that two on Apex mountain for worse new technology rollout ever? It's like him, Google glass, ESPN mobile, and Ed 209. Like what? That's the worst thing I've ever seen. Really? Yes. Here's my last one. Was Clarence Boddicker, was he a wanted criminal or not? Yeah. No, he's wanted for 31 cop killers, 31 deaths on his watch. The, the mob boss of old Detroit. But then in the last half hour of this movie, he's just strolling into Dick Jones's office, going through saying hi to people. So is he a criminal or not? Yeah. Lisa Gibbons even has them on the news as like known mob boss. Sometimes they do this in movies, like in 1989 Batman, like Carl Grissom and Jack Napier. They're just known mob bosses. They just walk around and they do stuff in public and no one arrests them or anything. So yes, it is a little odd. I get it. Do you have any picking nets? No, just the one about the family would never be that way. It's ridiculous. Sequel, prequel, prestige TV, all black cast are untouchable. Um, a prequel with Murphy and the other part of Detroit. I, I'd probably watch five minutes, all black cast. Maybe if you're going to that, that would have been the 2014 answer. If you're remaking RoboCop, like let's go all black cast and just go, but they made all these sequels. So I think that's the answer. The real answer to this category is none of them. It's video game. And they made a shitload of video games and they're pretty cool. The arcade game was awesome. You could fight at 209. That's the answer. I'm embarrassed to say that, uh, I'm so old that I had the computer game in the eighties. You had a computer game. Yeah. Like on an Apple computer or what? Did you have a Commodore Apple? Awesome. 80, 1988. That's the Apple that me and Gus Ramsey used to play micro league baseball on all the time, but I had a floppy disk. Only a few games, but I think I had the RoboCop one. I vaguely remember it. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Danny trail, Doris Burke, Sam Jackson, Nell Byron Mayo, Tony Romo, Chris Collinsworth, Daniel Plainview, long legs, Peter Schrager, or Wilford Brimley in the firm. Uh, you know, I'm tempted to say peace rags, but, uh, I need the scene where he shoots through the woman's legs. Uh, I would love to have my guy, Gus Johnson on the call. And it's just RoboCop, young fella, couple of scumbags about to give this woman a Brazilian, goes to the thigh holster, raises his gun. There we go.
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