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19:53 – 22:41… crazy as possible. A lot of wet aliens. A lot of lube used in this movie. Yeah. Seriously. Um, best presidents ever in a movie. I was going to get to this in Apex Mountain, but yeah. We've litigated this before. I just wanted to, um, tell America yet again. I, I don't know what the Mount Rushmore is. I don't know if we're allowed to cross. Is it movies and TV? Is it just movies? Whatever. But if it's just movies, I think the four most important movie presidents were Michael Douglas and American president, which we did on this podcast, Kevin Kline and Dave Pullman and independence day. And then the four spot is …
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it has to be like tentacles and weird faces and make them really crazy as possible. A lot of wet aliens. A lot of lube used in this movie. Yeah. Seriously. Um, best presidents ever in a movie. I was going to get to this in Apex Mountain, but yeah. We've litigated this before. I just wanted to, um, tell America yet again. I, I don't know what the Mount Rushmore is. I don't know if we're allowed to cross. Is it movies and TV? Is it just movies? Whatever. But if it's just movies, I think the four most important movie presidents were Michael Douglas and American president, which we did on this podcast, Kevin Kline and Dave Pullman and independence day. And then the four spot is really wide open for what you, what you want. That's like where you can learn more about almost the individual person who their fourth spot is. For me, it's Jeff Bridges in the contender, because I just feel like I just wish that was my president. Jeff Bridges in the contender. I liked how he carried himself. He just seemed very presidential, but other people would have Morgan Freeman in deep impact or I don't know. Who do you have, Chris? Who's your fourth? Well, I mean, you got a special dispensation for Jeb Bartlett from West Wing, even though I know that there doesn't count. It's gotta be movies. Okay. Because if you're going then, then I want Haysbert from 24 too. I thought he was amazing. Yeah, that's true. I mean, I kind of think, I feel like Haysbert and Bartlett are, are really have a shout at being on Rushmore then. No question. TV movie Rushmore. I think both of them have really strong cases. Do you like any film representation of Kennedy a lot worth putting it on there? No, it's been more, I think more. Fictional presidents. Yeah. It's never really worked. Not Daniel Day-Lewis being like, no, no, no, no. No. Okay. No. Who did, Shay, who's your fourth? I have a whole different four than what you presented. My four looks totally different than what you were saying. Every name you threw out there, I was a little surprised. I have, I have independent state president on my four. He's in there. But I also have Harrison Ford in Air Force One. Yeah. I like a president that can fight. Sure. So give me him. Give me a Jamie Foxx in White House Down because I want them to be able to use a gun. White House Down. And give me Morgan Freeman. Yeah. He's great. He's great in that. Oh my God. I need him and Channing Tatum taking out the bad guys. Kevin Kline taught us how to redo a budget in Dave. He healed America. What are you putting value on? Do you actually want him to legislate? Like, do you actually want like actual work being done? Or do you just want somebody who's going to give a cool speech if aliens show up? Every time a president shows up in a movie, it's because some bad shit is happening. So I want somebody who can handle himself. Shay, I'm going to hurt your feelings. Go for it. I've only seen White House Down once. Do I need to double back and try that one again? Yeah, definitely.
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So Robert Loggia watched Airplane and then was confused and thought they were making a spoof movie and not telling him and was furious and wouldn't leave his trailer. And they had to smooth it out. That's incredible. That's incredible. That's incredible. Actual moment. And that's it. All right. We're going to go to Apex Mountain. But first, we're going to take one more break. This episode is brought to you by Mazda. Want to be as confident behind the wheel as I am about a movie nobody else will admit as a top five all-timer? Get the Mazda CX-50 Hybrid. It comes standard with a suite of proactive safety features and lets you explore far and wide with an EPA estimated 38 miles per gallon combined and electronic all-wheel drive. Mazda, move and be moved. Visit MazdaUSA.com. Discover how confidence comes standard. Mileage will vary based on vehicle condition, driving habits, and other factors used for comparison purposes only. Actual results will vary. This episode is brought to you by the Active Cash Credit Card from Wells Fargo. That's a mouthful, but that's because it packs a lot in. Earn unlimited 2% cash rewards on purchases with it, big or small. So whether it's buying tickets to the game and grabbing a coffee, it earns unlimited 2% cash rewards on purchases. Say it with me. The Active Cash Credit Card from Wells Fargo. Be a 2%er. Learn more at wellsfargo.com forward slash Active Cash. Terms apply. Apex Mountain. Will Smith? No. Why are you shirking for that? It's got to be Men in Black, right? Uh, yeah. Men in Black. Now he's got 3. Oh, I would think it was either this or Bad Boy. It's either this or Bad Boys 2. I think it's Men in Black. Because after Men in Black, I think he could have made any movie he wanted for whatever salary he named. Yeah. Because now he's 3 for 3. But it could be this movie. I think it's got to be this movie or Men in Black. In terms of most use, everything. I think Men in Black are Bad Boys 2. Why wasn't Will Smith's peak longer? Is it really because of Wild Wild West? Did that really just destroy it? No, because he decided he just was going to make giant blockbuster movies and never, you know, he didn't follow the model of some of the other great A-plus listers of just, you got to weave in the occasional something. And then by the mid-2000s, he figured that out, right? And he at least tried a couple. But I just think he did too many, the same type of movie too many times, right? Yeah. He was just going for the biggest box office over and over again. Yeah. But there's, he passed up some good ones over the last 25 years, you know? There's a couple like, like think of like how many Denzel movies could Will Smith have also made, right? Like he could have been in Man on Fire and been awesome. It's Django too. Because that was the one. Django was the worst one, yeah. Django's the one that he was up for or that he could have done apparently. Shay, Will Smith in Man on Fire? Yeah, absolutely. Better or worse? Sign me. Sign me up. It's not going to be better than Denzel. Can't be better than Denzel. There's no movie you can take Denzel out of and put someone else in. I can't really imagine Will Smith putting a bomb up another person's behind. Craig always asks me, are we going to run out of movies? No. And I'm like, I mean, we haven't done Man on Fire yet. Like the rewatchables, there's a lot of meat left on the bone. Harry Connick Jr., Apex Mountain. I think he's married to Jill Goodacre at this point. She's one of the hottest women in the world, the mid-90s. He's got music stuff. He's got the When Harry Met Sally tale. When does his Christmas kick in? Because like, Cary Connick Jr. had like a Christmas album. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was running shit. Yeah, he was like... I'm going to look this up because this is important. So you feel like that was his... Yeah, when he puts his Christmas album out. He was going to be the one who, when we were doing recasting, I wouldn't mind swapping him out. If we just need like a funny guy in there, let's get Martin Lawrence in that seat and see what happens. I think that would be great. I think that would be great. That's a good one. Christmas album is 93. 93, okay. Yeah, so I think by Independence Day, it's really happening. And then he's actually getting cast as leads, which did not work out as well. Right. More Apex Mountain. Bill Pullman, yes. Has to be. It just has to be. Yeah. Long, dumbfounded action movie stairs. Apex Mountain or was there a different movie? I think Jurassic Park is Apex Mountain for long stairs. Because they're looking at... Some people would say close encounters. I like the fight being when they see the Brachiosaurus the first time in Jurassic Park. Yeah. And when Will Smith sees the ship the first time. And he's like... He's looking at his paper and then he like... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. ...sees everybody else and then he looks up. Yeah. It's so good. And then Vivica joins him too and they both do it. It's probably Jurassic. Vivica A. Fox, I would say yes. This or Kill Bill, yeah. Huge part. Alien Invade... I think set it off for Vivica. Set it off? You think so? I think so, yeah. This was the second biggest movie of all time. Yeah, but she doesn't do a lot in it. And set it off, she's like... A star. The star. Okay. Alien Invasion movies? So, do you guys prefer this or War of the Worlds? This. The Tom Cruise War of the Worlds? Yeah. The baseball scene killed War of the Worlds for me. I was never the same. I just couldn't believe it. I just couldn't believe he threw a baseball like that. It really... It rocked my world. The sound... The sound that the alien ships make in War of the Worlds is better. It's like a... I remember being in a theater and they're playing it. We're like at the AVX. Roar. And it comes in and like, all your shit is shaking. That part's better. But just a fun movie to watch in the theater, I think... I think Independence Day gets it. Concussed aliens? I say definitely. Yeah. Definitely. But we know so much more now about CTE. So I think that the alien would have been put in some kind of protocol. You know? Chris Lewinsky is tweeting about the alien. It's too bad. Movie president's speeches. I was going to... I mean, we talked about movie presidents. I would say... You could make an argument that this is the apex mountain of the presidency. It's the apex of like the actual presidency. Just across. Just across. Lewinsky hasn't happened yet. No. So... We still believe in the office. We have Dave in 93. West Wing's coming. We talked about the fictional presidencies up against. I would just... You know, I would say Whitmore is up there with Obama, Kennedy, Lincoln. You know what I mean? In terms of just like... Fair. What he accomplishes. The cons, you know, the things going against him is... He did nuke one of his own cities. That's definitely going to be a market. There's going to be some fallout. There's going to be literal fallout. There might be some PR. It might be hard to spin that. Pros... Great public speaker. And can fly. So like, I don't know. All right. So I was going to do this later, but let's do it now. Are we sure President Whitmore was a good president? Doesn't tell... Tells nobody to evacuate for hours on end. There's giant 15-mile spaceships over every major city. It's like... Where can you evacuate? They specifically targeted huge cities with the most people. And he's like, no, let's see this. Let's see what happens. Let's play it out. Nukes his own city. And then goes to fight. Maybe to certain death. Who's going to run the country, you fuckface? I think the implication is if this doesn't work, it doesn't matter. We're all dying anyway? Right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I think that's a good... I think if you didn't leave your city, you saw those ships and you didn't leave, that's on you. You shouldn't need somebody to tell you to get out of the water when there's a shark by. Right. Okay. Not sure he was a great president. I feel like the evacuation could have been a lot sooner. Well, my big question is like, that's my big unanswerable question is like, what are we looking at after this? Yeah. What's he the president of? Are we like in a straight up like the road where dudes are eating dog food and like there are cannibals on the road? Like what... How fast can we get America propped up again? It's like LA right now. Um, I don't know. I don't know what we were losing all three major cities. So maybe like Dallas becomes the alpha dog city or Chicago for some... And also if you're in Chicago, are you mad you didn't get a spaceship over your city? Do you have to reconsider your status as one of the three biggest cities? Yeah. Somehow the Dallas Cowboys come out unscathed from this. I have a last apex mountain. Computer viruses. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. It's early in the whole computer virus thing. It becomes a key focal point of the movie. People are still kind of figuring out the old internet thing. And then it becomes a huge plot point. And I think it worked. Uh, picking nets. The strip joint stayed open during the alien fleet invasion. You really think that's a nitpick? The spaceships are all over the cities and they're like, hey, should we close the strip joint? No. Get to work. Let's keep going. Ladies, we have customers. Do you think the casinos would have closed? I mean, like... I would assume everything would close. If there's 50 mile spaceships, what's open? Where are you going? I just want to be with my family for the last two hours before we all get blown up. Who might not want to be with their family for the last few hours. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. Um, I also was confused why everybody reacted so happily to the alien invasion where people are... Well, I think that's kind of part of the, the sort of, that pop culture moment with aliens where it was like, take me to your leader. And like, it was like, what if the aliens are cool and stuff like that? Like that's supposed to be people being like, yeah, cool aliens. Yeah. Shay, any, any, any other, uh, picking nets for you? I didn't see one single net that needed to be picked when I rewatched this. Everything lined up perfect. I actually thought, I agree with you. I thought it's pretty solid. Chris, you have anything? It all made sense. I thought that Judd Hirsch and Jeff Goldblum being able to get from Manhattan to Washington, D.C. and inside the White House within six hours, given the fact that there would be apocalyptic traffic on I-95 South is pretty, it can take more than four hours to get from New York to Washington on a good day. So... True. So you think there's an alternate script where they're just on the highway for five days? They just die on I-95. Yeah. It's like, I had the code. This sucks. The part when, uh, when Goldblum and Will Smith have to hightail it out of the mothership and they're like squeezing through the thing at the last possible minute. Yeah. This was like one of the first times I watched a movie and that happened. And then I was like, oh, they just did that. That's like the bad boys too. And I mean, the bad boys ending, it says the exact same thing with the two cars when they're racing and one's got to get in front of the other one. That's how you drive. That's great. Could this be remade as a 10 episode Netflix show? We all agree. Yes. I think you can run this back. I actually wouldn't be shocked if Netflix did this. They should. They should. They should. They should. They should. They should. A boat full of money.
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