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Heaven Can Wait 1978

With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan and Van Lathan · 27 May 2025 · 23,798 feet

The claim

19:47 – 22:42

… And so, you know, you just love the guy so much, you want him to win the Super Bowl by the end of the movie. Well, Julie Christie, who had 1965 in All Time Apex Mountain, where she won Best Actress for Darling, but also was in Dr. Zhivago, which was one of the 10 biggest movies of the 20th century, and then had a really good career and really picked her spots and was not one of those, oh, I'm going to do my version of Sleeping with the Enemy. She's like just making good movies and ends up in Don't Look Now, which I think is right around when she broke up with Beatty because there was this whole thing about …

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He goes, I don't want to tell some kid that they have to sleep in their car so that somebody else feels better about their car. Do you want to tell them that? No, Mr. President. No, Ben. I'm like, get his motherfucking ass. Yeah. I'm like, get him, Dave. And so, you know, you just love the guy so much, you want him to win the Super Bowl by the end of the movie. Well, Julie Christie, who had 1965 in All Time Apex Mountain, where she won Best Actress for Darling, but also was in Dr. Zhivago, which was one of the 10 biggest movies of the 20th century, and then had a really good career and really picked her spots and was not one of those, oh, I'm going to do my version of Sleeping with the Enemy. She's like just making good movies and ends up in Don't Look Now, which I think is right around when she broke up with Beatty because there was this whole thing about she might have had sex with Donald Southerner or maybe she didn't. It was a whole, and I think it drove Warren Beatty crazy. Does Shampoo is in Nashville. And then this was kind of her last like really big movie. Like she turned down some big parts and reds and she was supposed to play your girl, Charlene Rampling's part in The Verdict. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She turned that down? Turned that down. Just kind of took a step back. But, I don't know. I'll say something. Van, where is she in the Hall of Fame for you? Oh, she's not up there. Okay. She's, you know, she's maybe like out of that. Foreign Hall of Fame? Maybe Foreign Hall of Fame. Okay. Like Monica Belushi. Yeah. The type of Monica Belushi wing of the Hall of Fame. Yeah, Monica. Judy Dench. Judy, young Helen Mirren. Like, it's caliber. Excalibur. I'm thinking about Excalibur. What's the movie that she's in? The Lady and Rain Man? Yeah, it's Helen Mirren where she plays, what's her name? Morgana? Morgana. Yeah. Rain Man Lady. Can I say something about Warren Beatty? Yeah. Real quick. For a guy who was as suave as him, he got cupped a lot. What do you mean? Oh, in movies? Well, no. She went with Donald Sutherland, which I saw. And then he very famously got cupped when Axl Rose. Can you really say he got cupped if he's taken down- Oh, with Stephanie Seymour? Stephanie Seymour. And that was a big deal. And that, to me, was a big story about the end of Beatty. Because Beatty was still the, uh, and then Axl Rose comes along. Great. Welcome to the jungle. And just, like, takes his girl. And that was such a big deal. But isn't part of the magic, was he ever, like, uh? Isn't that just, like, isn't this the kind of fairy dust that we're talking about that he must have, where you're just, like, how is this guy who's kind of a quirky, anxious, good-looking, gray head of hair, all that stuff. But, like, he doesn't look like he's an action movie star. Why does this have full CR right here? Just saying. There's something-

90:15 – 93:48

… I did, you know. Shout out to Christmas Addicts. I mean, we went first. You guys don't care about that. Okay, cool. Gotcha. I'm just going to move on to Apex Mountain. Go for it. Worm Beatty. No. No. No. No? What is this Apex Mountain? I think it's. Reds? I actually think it's shampoo. I think it's Reds. Reds? Because he gets the Oscar. I would say shampoo. I personally would say shampoo because I think after shampoo, he could do anything he wanted, which ended up being this movie that he writes, produces, directs, and stars in. And the studio's like, here, take money. Something to be said for the fact …

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It wasn't we. I didn't have much saying. Actually, I did, you know. Shout out to Christmas Addicts. I mean, we went first. You guys don't care about that. Okay, cool. Gotcha. I'm just going to move on to Apex Mountain. Go for it. Worm Beatty. No. No. No. No? What is this Apex Mountain? I think it's. Reds? I actually think it's shampoo. I think it's Reds. Reds? Because he gets the Oscar. I would say shampoo. I personally would say shampoo because I think after shampoo, he could do anything he wanted, which ended up being this movie that he writes, produces, directs, and stars in. And the studio's like, here, take money. Something to be said for the fact that he does Reds and doesn't really do anything with it until Ishtar. Yeah, he has like a five-year, I think he's just getting down. Coked up. 1980. I don't know if he was a coke guy. 1982 Los Angeles, Warren Beatty coming off Reds. I think he's getting chicks. He has some social engagements. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. Who knows? Julie Christie now. I told you her Apex Mountain. It was 1965. Movies involving heaven. Metaphysical body swap movies. I have this. It's a question now. So it's this. It's like Chances Are, which I love, which you guys don't really care about. Freaky Friday. You're talking about. Switching bodies? Well, I'm talking about metaphysical bodies. Yeah, like coming back down from heaven. Coming back down. I think this is the most famous one. Right? Yeah. I mean, I think Dave is just, they find a twin. It's not, that's nothing like metaphysical about it. This is the fifth biggest movie of a giant movie year. Yeah. Actually, to be honest with you, this is the movie that a lot of those movies are probably mimicking. What about Big? That's a metaphysical body swap movie. Yeah. Not involving heaven, but it's like supernatural type of shit. Big's a good one. Yeah. Maybe. Actually, it's probably Big. Big is probably, probably sets the tone for this. It's not like involving God, but it's probably Big. What's it? This isn't Grodin, but what is Grodin? Is it Midnight Run? Yeah. Does Midnight Run and then his talk show comes after Midnight Run? Yeah. A couple years later? Jack Warden, probably not. I think he won, got nominated for stuff. The Rams, they win a Super Bowl. First iteration of the LA Rams. Yeah. I think you could say. Yeah. Diane Cannon. She's going to Laker games. Magic's about to show up. Got nominated for an Oscar. She actually becomes. Do you think the Showtime, it could be argued that the Showtime Lakers is actually the apex mountain of Diane Cannon? Like so many people know her. Her in the NBA Fantastic commercial? Know her from just being. Being a Lakers super fan. Being a Lakers super fan. Yeah. You could argue that the Showtime Lakers are her team. I think she was in the Pointer Sisters NBA Fantastic commercial. She wrote a Chaka Khan song. She's like, she's an absolute renaissance woman. Hmm. Overtime Super Bowl games, no. Shout out to the Falcons fans. Yeah. Rich person mansion's in a movie. Is there a better one than the Fallolo, whatever it's called mansion? Like somebody who's real. I mean, Xanadu in Citizen Kane's pretty cool. The Greystone Mansion. Batman. TV show. It's a pretty good mansion. Yeah. Cruiser Hanks. Greystone Mansion. Hanks. Hanks. Hanks. Hanks. Hanks. Yeah. Hanks. Hanks, Craig? Yeah, I'm not as convinced as you guys, but yeah. Hanks. I mean, to be honest with you. Cruz can do it. With the, with the. Cruz is not convincing me as a quarterback.

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Warren Beatty22,520 ftBugsy, 1991, by 2,306 feet.
Julie Christie21,150 ftPetulia, 1968, by 2,754 feet.
Jack Warden19,290 ftUsed Cars, 1980, by 1,108 feet.
Dyan Cannon18,960 ftRevenge of the Pink Panther, 1978, by 814 feet.
James Mason19,910 ftThe Verdict, 1982, by 1,922 feet.
Vincent Gardenia18,900 ftDeath Wish, 1974, by 1,104 feet.
John Randolph18,040 ftPretty Poison, 1968, by 416 feet.

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