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Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves 1991

With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan and Van Lathan · 7 November 2023 · 23,966 feet

The claim

75:09 – 79:03

… he was fine. So Van of Baton Rouge is on board. It is. It's called being wrong right. Sometimes you're wrong but you don't even know that you're right anyway. Apex Mountain. I only had a couple because I don't think this was Apex Mountain for really anybody. Archery? Yeah. I have bows and arrows in movies. Bows and arrows in movies. Although you can make an argument for The Hunger Games. She was There are some good arrow stuff. She was that was her whole thing. You guys and this is gonna sound weird. You guys don't think that you can make an argument that this is Alan Rickman's So Rickman was the other one I …

The whole segment, as transcribed

I get it. I get it. He was accidentally accurate. Yeah. He was like he fucked up and it turned out he was fine. So Van of Baton Rouge is on board. It is. It's called being wrong right. Sometimes you're wrong but you don't even know that you're right anyway. Apex Mountain. I only had a couple because I don't think this was Apex Mountain for really anybody. Archery? Yeah. I have bows and arrows in movies. Bows and arrows in movies. Although you can make an argument for The Hunger Games. She was There are some good arrow stuff. She was that was her whole thing. You guys and this is gonna sound weird. You guys don't think that you can make an argument that this is Alan Rickman's So Rickman was the other one I had. Yeah. Apex Mountain. Would you go Die Hard or for this? Wait you don't think this is Costner's Apex Mountain? I don't. This period of time? So it's the most commercial movie he ever made. And it's bookended by his Oscar triumph and arguably his best movie So I think Dances with Wolves him winning the Oscars is his Apex Mountain. I think that So I think it already happened. I think that moment happens with a film like that. Like that happens such that's so rare that a movie that's driven by one actor in that specific way happens like that for somebody. When you have like a Mel Gibson Braveheart or a Dancing Was Wolves situation that's almost the default your Apex Mountain. Yeah. So maybe 1991 was his Apex Mountain because he wins all the Oscars that year. I mean Then this comes out this becomes his most commercial movie ever made. Yeah. I will say this it was downhill from this movie. Bodyguard. Can you imagine Perfect World. Yeah. This was the you know it was down I mean Kevin Costner is still a fantastic performer don't get me wrong I'm not dissing to Kevin Costner but this was the in the term this was the peak. And this is the thing is that we did this whole bit in the beginning about Kevin Reynolds getting locked out of this movie and everything. Kevin Reynolds gets asked by Kevin Costner hey man you want to try try one more time you and me let's dial something up together and what is it it's Waterworld Waterworld So he has he wins the Oscars Robin Hood and then JFK and then Bodyguard and then I think we move into a different phase and then he kind of comes back with Tin Cup and Oh Tin Cup is great but you know what that was the I'm not dead yet movie for him I'm such a big fan I love The Postman and that's an objectively whack movie I love that movie I kind of like The Postman too I like Wyatt Earp you know yeah I like Wyatt Earp so I like the shit that he was putting out Picanets what why did the sheriff why Marion what was it about Marion she's the king's cousin she has he has to get royal blood right mmhmm he's the king's cousin this is the best avenue for that what do you mean Bill there was nobody else big extended royal family married or bust everybody was at court remember yeah remember earlier in the movie he asked her he's like you should probably move to London she goes I don't want to do life at court so most of the other king's relatives were probably living life at court she was hanging back because she wanted to give alms to the poor okay and why didn't Will Scarlett tell Robin they were brothers sooner I have that too just bring it up in the first 20 minutes of the movie yeah just be like hey fuck you man by the way why is this a reveal what is this Jerry Springer this is the Maury Povich show when everybody is like we want to swear feel to you this guy he could have just been like yeah man fuck this guy hey group of people who I've been living around my whole life this is the motherfucker remember the motherfucker I was telling you about this is my trauma this is the guy fucking fucked over me maybe we don't want him to build the tree houses because he's an asshole and so is his dad devil worshiper like so why did you wait and why did you wait and try to do it the sneaky way I just fucking tell everybody you're just a dick for like four weeks and then you're like oh by the way we're brothers and also the worst kind of dick

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Kevin Costner27,030 ftDances with Wolves, 1990, by 6,751 feet.
Morgan Freeman25,650 ftSe7en, 1995, by 7,009 feet.
Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio20,280 ftThe Abyss, 1989, by 2,120 feet.
Sean Connery25,640 ftThe Hunt for Red October, 1990, by 7,984 feet.

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