Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
40:05 – 43:13… told you guys I want to do Reforgetting Sarah Marshall. We should just do this with all the new categories. I love that movie. Abby wants a theme month called Apex Mountain April. It's in the same vein as Fucked Up Family February, but this category will spotlight films where the lead was at the peak of their star power industry ranking, swung for the fences and failed. Like Kevin Costner in Waterworld or John Travolta in Battlefield Earth or Sandra Bullock in All About Steve. Apex Mountain April. I guess we could do it in August. It's the Hudson Hawk pod, I guess, right? Yeah. The problem is it wouldn't be fun …
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What's it called? Dracula the Musical. Die. Die. Die. Die. I can't. That movie's amazing. I told you guys I want to do Reforgetting Sarah Marshall. We should just do this with all the new categories. I love that movie. Abby wants a theme month called Apex Mountain April. It's in the same vein as Fucked Up Family February, but this category will spotlight films where the lead was at the peak of their star power industry ranking, swung for the fences and failed. Like Kevin Costner in Waterworld or John Travolta in Battlefield Earth or Sandra Bullock in All About Steve. Apex Mountain April. I guess we could do it in August. It's the Hudson Hawk pod, I guess, right? Yeah. The problem is it wouldn't be fun to rewatch those movies. I don't want to spend any time with All About Steve. That sounds like a bummer. Great idea. I don't know if we can execute it. We will execute this though. Two awards. People want more food in the rewatchable, Sean. Okay. David Weissman suggests the Big Kahuna, mmm, this is a tasty burger award for best looking food in the film that you would want to try as you're watching it. That's a no brainer. That's just being added to the podcast. Might be my favorite line reading in the history of movies. So if we're into that, this is a tasty burger. And then Josh P. suggests the Den of Thieves Benihana Award for the place location that steals the scene more than the actors did. Look, this is also just a lock to be in. Wow. This is like Henry Hill's bar where Tommy kills bats. Yeah. Location, I think we've almost done like 250 episodes. I don't, probably we've been a little light on location. Talking locations, how important they are. So I like this. And then Josh Reese had a similar thing to the Big Kahuna Award. He wanted to call it the Richard Kimball Egg Sandwich Award. But what was talking about when they make spaghetti sauce in The Godfather, they're preparing the food in Goodfellas and it just kind of makes you hungry. Yeah. I think we should add both of these. I was thinking like right around, like maybe after what stage the best, there's a couple food spots to swing in. That diner in Thief is like my ideal diner. This is, I think the single best idea anyone had. It's from John N. He said, I was listening to your Beverly Hills Cop 2 episode and you're talking about racehorses. And I thought, why not have a best racehorse name from the movie category? From the movie Heat, you have book about metals, the bank's money, or barbecues and ball games. And I'm only providing heat examples. I think that's a good one. We have to figure out the best racehorse name from somebody who loves that movie. But wouldn't you, it wouldn't be surprising at all if a horse that won the Derby was called The Action is the Juice. Like that's in play. Yeah. Right. So I'm adding this. I love this. I can't wait to figure out a racehorse name for the next one we do. CR, I feel like you're not excited enough about this. I'm trying to think of what I would want to name a horse from The Departed. Oh my God. Probably the porn theater.
46:53 – 49:42… mind. Yeah. For any movie that doesn't have a sequel, I think that's pretty fun. Ordinary People 2. Dragos wanted Nadir Valley, which would be the opposite of Apex Mountain. An actor filmed it during his low point and his career was subsequently revived by this movie like John Travolta in Pulp Fiction. I don't think it totally works, but I like the concept of Nadir Mountain, but I think it would be Nadir Valley, right? Yeah. It would be a mountain. It would be a valley. I don't think it works. Somebody sent another email about that called the Golden State Down 20 Award for like, and they said Travolta in Pulp …
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in a gangland war in Mexico would have sounded insane, but there goes Michael Mann. So prequel or sequel? I don't think it should be every pod, but I think we should keep that in mind. Yeah. For any movie that doesn't have a sequel, I think that's pretty fun. Ordinary People 2. Dragos wanted Nadir Valley, which would be the opposite of Apex Mountain. An actor filmed it during his low point and his career was subsequently revived by this movie like John Travolta in Pulp Fiction. I don't think it totally works, but I like the concept of Nadir Mountain, but I think it would be Nadir Valley, right? Yeah. It would be a mountain. It would be a valley. I don't think it works. Somebody sent another email about that called the Golden State Down 20 Award for like, and they said Travolta in Pulp Fiction, the comeback award. We would just do that in one stage the best for the Travolta thing. But isn't the Nadir Valley like, look who's talking to or whatever? You know what I mean? Yeah, but we would never do that movie. So Nadir Valley makes sense. It's just, we would never do a movie that had a Nadir Valley. Yeah. I wonder if you could tweak it going back to the NBA and it's almost like actor in a contract year. Like this is probably their last chance to be in a movie this good and they pull it off. The Jerome James? Yeah. That's so rude. Sorry, shot. Evan Fitz, a couple of people had this. Evan Fitzsimmons wanted an homage to one of my favorite Chris Ryan jokes. He has favorite Chris Ryan jokes, apparently. On the Field of Dreams pod when he said, imagine if Ray Liotta, RIP, from the second half of Goodfellas was coming out of the cornfield. And so he says, new category, an actor who underperformed in the movie, even though they've been good in other movies and they just bring the character from another movie and to make their movie better. He said, I said in Mr. Mom, how Terry Garr wasn't that good in Mr. Mom, but I would have loved it if it was Tootsie Terry Garr. And he wants to call this the Jimmy Buckets Award for Jimmy Butler's ability to underperform in Minnesota and then subsequently be better in Philly. Something there. It's really an excuse for CR to just do impressions. To do 100 health. Yeah. Yeah. I just keep flashing back on A Few Good Men every time I hear a new category and I'm like, Demi Moore is absolutely terrible in A Few Good Men, but she's incredible in other movies. You know, it's like, that's like, is that her nadir valley, even though she's in that great movie? Yeah. Could she have done, if she had done like the About Last Night Demi Moore in A Few Good Men, is it a better movie? Yeah. I think that she might not have been like, taking it seriously as a lawyer, but yeah. What about the Disclosure Demi Moore? Yeah. Disclosure Demi Moore. Disclosure Demi Moore, yeah. Indecent Proposal. Todd Ressler wants the Henry Hill in E.T. Award. I think inspired by Chris. What other movie would you like to see the main character from this movie in? Oh, yeah. And he suggested like Indiana Jones in Proof of Life, Henry in Goodfellas in E.T.
56:07 – 67:02… I brought that up because I didn't know Rick Springfield dated a 15-year-old Linda Blair. What the fuck? Not ideal. Jesus, Rick Springfield. Not ideal. Apex Mountain. A lot of people are confused what Apex Mountain is. Seems to be a relative consensus. Just be like, was this weird? Were you unaware of that? Did you think we were just nailing it every time? No, it's just when you see it really unfolding in real time over emails. People just were like, why can't this just be the peak of their career? The funniest thing ever is if there is a special guest on the show, you know, like a Bill Hader and Aaron …
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I don't know if we should name it after Rick Springfield dating a 15-year-old, but- Right. I feel like that's in what's the age of the worst we're covered. I brought that up because I didn't know Rick Springfield dated a 15-year-old Linda Blair. What the fuck? Not ideal. Jesus, Rick Springfield. Not ideal. Apex Mountain. A lot of people are confused what Apex Mountain is. Seems to be a relative consensus. Just be like, was this weird? Were you unaware of that? Did you think we were just nailing it every time? No, it's just when you see it really unfolding in real time over emails. People just were like, why can't this just be the peak of their career? The funniest thing ever is if there is a special guest on the show, you know, like a Bill Hader and Aaron Sorkin, you have to explain it. Just watching you explain it is extraordinary. So I don't, I kind of don't want to lose that. I feel like that's part of the podcast. I agree. That's right. It's a category that never made sense. But Steve Groot-Huse, Groot-Huse, he says, baseball players choose the hat team to represent them on their Hall of Fame plaque. Oh, yeah. Would this be the movie the actor, writer, director would wear as their Hall of Fame hat? Wow, that's a good one. Tremendous question. There's also like, you could also throw, this is like first paragraph of the obituary known for movies such as, and is like, is this in the first sentence there? What order does it come in? Yeah. So he asks, E.T., is that Spielberg's Hall of Fame hat? Die Hard, Bruce Willis. Top Gun, Tom Cruise. This is good. This should be a category. Hall of Fame, I mean, are you going to retire Apex Mountain? Are you going to do, is Hall of Fame hat different than Apex Mountain for you? No, because I like having them both because it's more confusing. I think Hall of Fame hat can come right after Apex Mountain. That's good stuff. Apex Mountain's about the juice you have in your career. Hall of Fame hat is just so easy to understand. It's legacy. It's like, in retrospect, it turns out you'll always be known for this. What's PTA's Hall of Fame hat? Right now, I think it's There Will Be Blood. I think it is too. But I don't know if that's what it'll be. For me, it's Boogie Nets. He's got one coming that's going to win him like six Oscars, though. That's probably going to be the one in like 10 years. Because they're going to be like, shit, why didn't we give this guy any Oscars? Is that Venom 3? Hopefully. Fingers crossed. Jay Torres thinks we should name the Apex Mountain category after somebody because all the categories are named after people for the most part. And he suggests the Catherine Trammell Apex Mountain category. I'm not against it. Catherine Trammell Apex Mountain. It's just a picture of Sharon Stone's face. It's like 500 yards. All right. Last one. Craig, it's another Vincent Chase award. This comes from- We're doing two awards named after Vincent Chase? These are suggestions. Kyle Barlow. He says, in season 3A, episode four, Guys and Dolls of Entourage, there's a scene in Ari's office with Vince and the Boys right off the heels of success of Aquaman. Ari presents multiple scripts. Fox wants you to do this movie. Seven million. Throws script in the trash. Miramax, eight million. Throws it in the trash. Brings out the Medellin script. Medellin. Medellin. Which is what Vince always wanted. They thought the script was dead. Aquaman was Vince's Apex Mountain because he could do any script. Medellin almost cost him his career. Therefore, I think the award name on The Real Watchable should be changed to the Vinny Chase Aquaman Apex Mountain Award. That's tough. We're definitely not doing that. But it was the first thing I've ever seen that accurately explained Apex Mountain. Right. It's like, are you at the point where you can just throw scripts in the trash? Yeah. Yeah. There it is. We've explained Aquaman and Apex Mountain. There you go. That's all we have for categories. Way too much Entourage. In this conversation. I think both questions came from Kyle Barlow. I think he was both. Kyle Barlow was one of the, yeah, he really loved that episode. So here's what I'm thinking for new categories for the next time we do it. So these are possibles. Best year specific signal. If we do that, call that the Warren G. Regulator Award for best year specific signal. I still don't know if we need that. The Slow Ride Award for best needle drop. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Because Slow Ride. I mean, come on. That's a good, that's... End of Days of Confused. I like that. Yeah. Do you want to do year specific signal or no? I feel like it's a little confusing. What's age the best? Yeah. I think your specific signal is kind of like a mouthful, but maybe if you call it the What Time Is It Award? These should all be no-brainers or they're not going in. Okay. The Big Kahuna Burger Award for best food drink. That's in. Definitely. Den of Thieves Benihana Award for scene-stealing location. That's definitely in. Yep. Should we have a Hottest Take Award? Should it be conditional? Or should we just shoehorn it into what's age the best? I think it's better when they come up organically, right? Yeah. Yeah. You should have almost like a button you can hit to give that award to a random opinion. I'm sure Sean and I would appreciate that for some of your takes. Okay. It's a no-brainer too for classic movies where we've accepted the conventional wisdom of something and being like, I'm going the other way. It's kind of the Zag Award is really what it is. Peabreak? Love Peabreak. It's good. What should we name Peabreak after? Or just call it Peabreak? What was the example that you used? I mean, I don't think shooters should get that kind of recognition. But maybe, I don't know, something from Boogie Nights? Maybe Dirk at the Church Award for best Peabreak? Yeah, there's not a lot of breaks in Boogie Nights for me. I don't know. I thought the flute example was really good, Chris. Yeah. Yeah, that's good. That's it. And Anchorman. Anchorman flute scene. Flute Peabreak Award. That's great. Brought to you by Coors Light. Yeah. The Butch's Girlfriend Award for weak link of the film, scene, character, plot, whatever. Or would you cut five minutes? Some sort of cut, what would you cut? But I think that overlaps with Peabreak. So I don't think we need it. Well, there's inessential. So I guess if you're going to do this Butch's Girlfriend thing, which I'm kind of appalled by, I do think that it should be the character you could lose with no material impact on the movie. All right. So then after casting what ifs, if it's the overacting award, I like having the CP3 award for worst meltdown, even though we'll never use it. I'm just going to have that in the categories in case there's a movie that comes up where we can do it. Yeah. Where it's just like, wow, look at this person. They just really, their hamstring must have gone. The Butch's Girlfriend we can keep and use every once in a while. The Tony Snell Award is probably better than Butch's Girlfriend. I like giving Tony Snell an award too. I like that one a lot. Which one do you like, Chris? I just, the only reason I hesitate with Tony Snell is that I think that the award that I have to explain as much as Apex Mountain is Dion Waiters. Yeah, you're right. Tony Snell's even more obscure. I would argue that Tony Snell is less famous than Dion is. Good point. The James Harden Award for actor least interested in being there. It's all basketball. Well, I think it's better to call it the Jalen Rose Keep Getting Them Checks Award. Because people know what that means. Keep getting them checks. That's like Sam Jackson in Deep Blue Sea. That's a Jalen Rose Award winner right there. Sam's in for like 20 minutes. Good Hang, Bad Hang. These are all going to be like conditional every once in a while. The Judith Myers Award for character definitely killed first of a horror movie. People mostly think that the Joey Pants Award is too confusing. I think that guy is a great category though. Yeah. I think we're going to change it back to best that guy and really save it for when it's a true that guy. I think that's cool. Or not do it. And then the Teddy KGB Award for the actor doing his own thing or her own thing can replace Judd Nelson. We're going to retire Judd. So long, Judd. Best Race Horse Name is in. Recasting Couch 2022 is in. Apex Mountain adding the Hall of Fame plaque thing. For me, the action is the Juice Award for best quote. And then a lot of people were like the Netflix thing, that's the worst category. Everybody, you know, it's just every time you decide it would be better off as a movie. So I tweeted it. I checked this with CR. This could be after picking nits. Sequel, prequel, prestige TV, all black cast are untouchable. You have to pick one of the five. You like that, CR? Yeah. Yeah. You goosed that one a little bit. I like it. Thank you. Because Van's whole thing about make this movie with an all black cast is a great one. Yeah. So I don't think we should lose that at all. I love that category, though, because most of the time... And who better to decide than the three of us, you know? That's right. Why not? But like, most of the time we say, no, it's perfect as is. But when we don't, that leads to some of the best conversations. Yeah. So I wouldn't want to nix that. Every once in a while, also, when we're talking about like, I don't think they should make this as a Netflix series. But if they did, it should be this. I think that's when we started talking about like, why aren't we making a Jaws? Yeah. Yeah. The Jaws spinoffs that we talked about. Yeah, Amity Island, right? Isn't that right? Sequel, prequel, Prestige TV, all black cast are untouchable. Okay. I think we're going to bring back, would this movie be better with? Because the Wayne Jenkins thing inspired me. With Wayne Jenkins. Would this movie be better with Wayne Jenkins, Danny Trejo, Catherine Han, Steve Buscemi, Sam Jackson, or Phil Baker Hall? Yeah. We just have to pick one of the six quickly. I always want JT Walsh on a list like this too. All right. I'll add him. I just want JT Walsh yelling at characters. Maybe we just call this, would this movie be better with dot, dot, dot. And you pick. And people can put in whatever. It's just going to be Wayne Jenkins for everyone. Is this pause? Excuse me, sir. Are you trying to take over the Nakatomi Plaza on my watch? God damn. Add him on the fucking brick. Yeah. Are all episodes of the pod going to be six hours now? No. I think we can bang this out in like an hour 40. One Oscar minimum. Did I call that just one Oscar? Yeah. That's a great one. That's better. Just one Oscar. Some of these can be answered in like a minute. That's what I was thinking. Like the Hall of Fame plaque. Like that's just a great new category. Um. I lost the email where the person suggested this, but best double feature choice for this movie.
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