Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
70:15 – 78:26Let's try three, but just to give them something to look at, let's go up to seven. Right. I mean, that was an actual argument in Paul Verhoeven's office. Apex Mountain. I wrote this about Arnold in the Action Hero Championship belt that I did. This wasn't an Apex. This was an A-fucking-pex. In two years, Arnold, this is from, he does this, he does Kindergarten Cop, and he does T2 in the span of like 14 months. He does science fiction, action comedy, summer blockbuster, on top of like all the special effects corners, the unintentional comedy corners, the one-liner corners. This is it. I don't know whether …
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Let's try three, but just to give them something to look at, let's go up to seven. Right. I mean, that was an actual argument in Paul Verhoeven's office. Apex Mountain. I wrote this about Arnold in the Action Hero Championship belt that I did. This wasn't an Apex. This was an A-fucking-pex. In two years, Arnold, this is from, he does this, he does Kindergarten Cop, and he does T2 in the span of like 14 months. He does science fiction, action comedy, summer blockbuster, on top of like all the special effects corners, the unintentional comedy corners, the one-liner corners. This is it. I don't know whether the Apex is here or T2. What do you guys think? I think it's T2. Yeah, it has to be T2. That's the, Terminator 2 is the first movie, either Terminator 2 or Terminator 1. That's the one that has just been attached to Arnold forever. This is, this is the movie that you bring in when you're like, oh, but did you forget about this one? And you realize like, holy shit, Arnold has got like deep, deep cuts. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I think, I think if you're going A fucking pecs, I think it's probably, it's this stretch and then it kind of culminates with T2. Yes. But the fact that he had enough sway to get paid what he got paid for this movie and control every single veto power aspect of it and get a percentage, 15% of the profits. I mean, he probably made $100 million from this movie. Unbelievable. And this was not even the most successful movie he ever made. So, unbelievable job of him. Rachel Ticketin? Ticketin? Ticketin? I think this might be. Yeah, Rachel. I think this might be her apex mountain. I think this might be our apex. This might be, this might be it. My personal for her is Man of Fire is, Man on Fire is, is my personal apex for her. I like this one. I thought she's really good in that. That's probably like a better acting performance. Right. But when I think of the Rachel, I think of like an action star. And in this one, we get to see her fighting. We get to see her shooting. We get to see her eyeballs exploding out of her head almost. This is, I think this is the move to make. Sharon Stone, no, because it's basic instinct. Michael Ironside? Ironside? I mean, it's close for him. I might go, I would pick Marshall Bell, George, and Cuado over Ironside just because like he's, he's only in the one scene really. And he plays two characters in it. Like. Well, you can have both. If it's the apex of their career, they can both have the apex. I think this is the apex of both of their careers. Yes. Ironside. For some reason, in my head, whenever we do Apex Mountain, the way that I seem to assign it is like, what's the very first role I think of when I think of this person? Which is like for Arnold, okay, Terminator, for Stallone, Rocky. For Ironside, every single time. Maybe it's because this was the one I watched in the theater, but I go straight to Starship Troopers without question. That's fair. He's probably more valuable in that movie too. Yeah, I'll accept that. Ronnie Cox? Robocop. Yeah, Robocop. For me, Robocop. Well, for me, it's this, for Ronnie Cox. For me, it's Co-Hagan. Yeah, I would say Co-Hagan as well. Mars? No. No, the Martian. The Martian. Well, yeah. There's a case that this is Mars' apex mountain. Here's the thing. In a scientific sense, the Martian, fine, okay? Because it's all about Mars, trapped on Mars. He's growing potatoes and his own shit on Mars. It's Mars, Mars, Mars all the time. In this one, it's like, it's the idealized Mars. There's this alien engine that creates air that's been just, they never turned it on. It's been under there for half a million years. I think that this is Mars' apex mountain. The Martian is about, that's Matt Damon's vehicle. That could have been, it could have been the moon. This is Mars' movie. It's about Mars. That was, what, 64 years from now? Yeah. I don't think we're going to make it. I don't think we're going to match the timeline in 64 years. I don't think we'll be living on Mars just yet. Movies set on Mars. The Martian, The Last Day on Mars, Mission to Mars, Total Recall, John Carter, Red Planet, and Doom are the first ones that come up. Yeah. I think The Martian, but Total Recall, sure, go for it. I say Total Recall only because in 1990, it still seemed conceivable that someday we could live on Mars. That was a thing, that was a thing in the air at the time. Like, yeah, maybe someday we'll get there, but now it's obviously not happening. Here is my final pitch for this being Mars' apex mountain. The way people say Mars in this movie is just more fun than The Martian. First of all, you've got Harry going, hey, hey, Quaid, how was Mars? And then you've got, and then you've got every time Schwarzenegger says Mars, Mars? Harry, what are you talking about? I've never been to Mars. What? Like, there's just the way people say Mars in this movie is much more fun. That's my argument. And Venusville. Venusville. I would say three boob ladies and four boob ladies, Apex Mountain, because we've never seen it before or since. Picking knits. I only have a couple. So, because you can either pick knits with everything or you just kind of ride with it. I think this is one of those, I'm just going to ride with the premise. These movies, Escape from New York did this too, where you shoot something in the side of somebody's neck and it just magically is going to do this stuff. Go where it's supposed to go, yeah. I've never really seen the science of this. Like, I don't know. I'm feeling my neck right now. I just feel like things would hurt. Would it be that easy? Would you still be feeling it 12 hours later? Everybody seems to be fine when this happens. The tracker. Swept under the rug. The tracker was huge. Yeah. That he pulls out of his nose was gigantic. Yeah. That was another one. Yeah. He doesn't know that's in there the whole time. It was like a ping pong ball size. It was like an AirPod case. Arnold ends up really, really punching Sharon Stone during this movie, which has not aged the best, but she did try to kill him over and over again. She's fine afterwards. There's no mark. Yeah. She gets right up. It's like she just takes it. They kind of gloss over that one. I feel like if Arnold punched any of us, we'd be down for like an hour. My guess is he hit her in the jaw, not in the face. Like he hit her here. You get hit right there. You're not going to get marks. You know what I'm saying? You stay away from this area. You come down. This is, as always, Shade, valuable punching expert. Yes. Thank you. Nobody has more punching. Hauser, the Quade's alter ego, cocky Arnold, I guess we could call him. So he explains he used to work for Cohagen, but switched sides after learning about an alien artifact on Mars and then underwent the memory wipe to protect himself. Jason, what? That's not. Yeah. I don't. I that's. I was under the impression that that Cohagen wiped him and then stashed him on Earth to like get him out of the way. He's too valuable for some reason to kill. I don't. Yeah, I don't. That made my brain hurt. But then. But then. How's there saying he's the one that wiped his memory?
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