Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
113:29 – 119:01… when I shared him on our document, help me out. But I know Ryan does. Well, I already did the music thing. Yeah. I'm not going to keep beating it. Okay. Apex Mountain. Is it Leo's Apex Mountain? I think Django is... Oh. You know, as we were sitting here talking about playing a darker character, it's definitely worth revisiting that conversation and being like, look, Django's a hell of a lot darker than his role in Django. Yeah. It's darker than being a shithead on Wall Street. But, you know, it's funny how The Revenant was almost... People were sort of after the fact pissed about him not having an Oscar. …
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Yeah. Yeah. Actually, do you have any nits to pick with this movie? I don't have anything written down. And in fact, I said to our producer, Craig, when I shared him on our document, help me out. But I know Ryan does. Well, I already did the music thing. Yeah. I'm not going to keep beating it. Okay. Apex Mountain. Is it Leo's Apex Mountain? I think Django is... Oh. You know, as we were sitting here talking about playing a darker character, it's definitely worth revisiting that conversation and being like, look, Django's a hell of a lot darker than his role in Django. Yeah. It's darker than being a shithead on Wall Street. But, you know, it's funny how The Revenant was almost... People were sort of after the fact pissed about him not having an Oscar. And it was like, this is going to happen. And The Revenant is great, not just because of him, but the way it's shot, the way the natural light stuff, the way they were like, these rules that were going to follow. That must have been miserable shooting that movie. But it's not clear enough. It's not like, for me, he's so good in those other roles that I don't just sit there and be like, if somebody wanted to argue with me, hey, no, wait a minute, what he did in Django is far more impressive than what he did in Wolf of Wall Street. I just don't know if there's enough separation in the roles for me to say Apex Mountain. I think arguably you have to say that Titanic is his Apex Mountain, right? Still never seen it. It's fine. It's fine. I'm not saying that it's good. I'm saying that he's just the most popular person in the world. What about Aviator? He's incredible in that. Yeah. It's not just about performance, though. It's about what he can do in the business. I love Body of Lies. Let's just do Post the Beach. These are his roles, okay? Catch Me If You Can. Phenomenal. Gangs of New York, I'll fight for it. Every Day. Right. I just wish there was a version. That he's not in? No. Without Cameron Diaz. Without the Cameron Diaz. Only to be trumped by a non-Sharon Stone casino edit. Right. But. What? Oh, my God. I mean, that movie towards the end, I'm just like, okay, I got it. It's a tumultuous relationship. You got to hold on to that take because it's way too hot for me. Aviator, The Departed, Blood Diamond, Body of Lies, Revolutionary Road, Shutter Island, Inception, J. Edgar, which I think is the only true, true dud here. Django, Gatsby, Wolf of Wall Street. All leading up to The Revenant where he wins the Oscar. I would probably take his performance in all of those movies over The Revenant, which is a classic Oscar thing. This is what happens. Except for J. Edgar. Except for J. Edgar. Where he's just in an old man suit. Inception is just, I like it so much, but it's not the intensity. Like, he's playing kind of the Leo that we know in a normal role. That movie's great, I think, for other reasons than DiCaprio. I agree. Okay. So this is not Apex Mountain for Leo. It's not for Scorsese. Bernthal? I mean, for me, yes. It might be for Jonah. Personal Apex Mountain. I noticed something on Little Nitpit. Bernthal's mugshot. I think they have him over six feet. You don't think so? You know how by that? I don't know. Have you met him? He's listed at 5'11". I stood next to him at something. Listed? Yeah. Listed where? The NBA.com's rosters? But the Combine Heights. Yeah. Tugging in shoes, flats, lifts. Best quote. This could go on for a while. I don't want to make it go on for too long. I have about 1,200 words here for best quote. How much performance do I want to do? Honestly, I don't want to do that. I will say it's the entire McConaughey jerking off speech. That's the entire one is the quote. The best quote. I, myself, I jerk off at least twice a day. Wow. Once in the morning, right after I work out, and then once right after lunch. Really? Okay. I want to. That's not why I do it. I do it because I fucking need to. Think about it. You're dealing with numbers all day long. Decimal points, high frequencies, bang, bang, bang, fucking digits, all very acidic, above the shoulders, mustard shit. All right. Kind of wigs some people out, right? You got to feed the geese to keep the blood flowing. I keep the rhythm below the belt. This is not a tip. This is a prescription. Trust me. If you don't, you will fall out of balance. Split your differential and tip the fuck over. What the fuck is he talking about? I know why you like this because this is a fake Robert Downey Jr. performance. This is what Downey does. This free associative, hyper intelligent, but completely illogical word vomit. That's totally what Downey does in his best performances. And that's kind of what that is. But it's great. Then I have a bunch that I feel weird repeating. We don't have to say every scumbag thing. I mean, there's a couple. Let me tell you something. There's no nobility in poverty, which is a poll from Wall Street. There is no nobility in poverty. I have been a rich man and I have been a poor man. And I choose rich every fucking time. Those are the kinds of lines of dialogue that are weaponized in the movie, maybe to ill-gotten gains. Opening lines of the movie. My name is Jordan Belfort. I'm a former member of the middle class raised by two accountants in a tiny apartment in Bayside, Queens. The year I turned 26 as the head of my own brokerage firm, I made $49 million, which really pissed me off because it was three shy of a million a week. Sell me this pen. Famous one. So you listen to me and you listen well. Are you behind on your credit card bills? Good. Pick up the phone and start dialing. Is your landlord ready to evict you?
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