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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

Superbad 2007

With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan and Sean Fennessey · 4 January 2022 · 25,188 feet

The claim

63:54 – 66:40

… movie has its 15th anniversary next year, there will probably be some big oral history that somebody will do would be my guess. Maybe it should be the ringer. Apex Mountain. This will be interesting. Jonah Hill. I mean, he's like twice Oscar nominated after this. And now like a director. Yeah. Yeah. And I, he has completely shifted the trajectory of his career because you mentioned 21 Jump Street coming along and becoming the biggest high school comedy after that. Right. So he was clearly on this path to becoming, I don't know, like, could you say like the John Belushi of his era? Like he was on a very …

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Just like, but like just random stuff like Michael Cera fell out of a tree on like early in the shooting and stuff like that. Yeah. I think when this movie has its 15th anniversary next year, there will probably be some big oral history that somebody will do would be my guess. Maybe it should be the ringer. Apex Mountain. This will be interesting. Jonah Hill. I mean, he's like twice Oscar nominated after this. And now like a director. Yeah. Yeah. And I, he has completely shifted the trajectory of his career because you mentioned 21 Jump Street coming along and becoming the biggest high school comedy after that. Right. So he was clearly on this path to becoming, I don't know, like, could you say like the John Belushi of his era? Like he was on a very particular kind of track and he was, he's obviously interested in a lot, doing a lot more than that. Has become a serious actor. Has become a filmmaker. He's on a TV show for Netflix. He's done a lot of different kinds of stuff. I don't, I would say 21 Jump Street for him. I feel like after Moneyball, everybody just changed their opinion about him. They're like, oh, he can do that. And so, but this is probably, this may be the movie that he's remembered for. I think it's 21 Jump Street because that movie made even more money than this movie and then paved the way. At that point, he had some dramatic chops too and paved the way for a bunch of stuff he wanted to do, including mid nineties, a big favorite of my son's in this house. And Wolf of Wall Street, which I think as the years will pass, will become a more and more important movie. It already is, but he's really big in that. And I like John Hill. He's, I've interviewed him a couple of times and a really fun guy to talk to, like really thoughtful. And I think thoughtful, I think all these guys, I think what the reason they've been so successful other than being talented is they're really thoughtful about the industry and what makes sense and what doesn't make sense. Like, uh, I just don't, I think for their generation, it's what makes it unique. They're real fans of the movies that came before them. They peak, they put a lot of thought into how they can make an impact, how to put a career together. So I think he's done a good job. Michael Cera, I would say this is definitely a pick spot for him. Yeah. Yeah. When does, when's, uh, Scott Pilgrim? Scott Pilgrim's 2010, but he also was in Juno this year. Oh, yeah. So I mean, those movies are huge. Yeah. And he's just coming off of Arrested Development this time. What do you think? So his 2010s, why do you think it fell off a little for him? Do you think you mentioned how he only had one pitch and then this movie, he at least redefined the pitch a little bit, but, uh, it does feel like he hasn't had that second career that I kind of thought

72:28 – 76:27

… could be in the next hundred. Predicting what number the rewatchable is going to be is a good bit. After Proof of Life 3 colon triple proof. Number 383. More Apex Mountain. Comedic cops? Wow. Like is this the funniest cops? That's not exactly a much celebrated subgenre these days. I know. That's why it could be Apex Mountain because after this, I don't know if we had comedic cops in the same way. We also tried in different movies. There was that weird. Seth Rogen made another one. What was that? Observe and Report. That one a little darker. Yeah, a little darker. That's like a mall cop. Yeah. Oh, 21 Jump …

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greenlit though. Late 300s rewatchable? Yeah, it could be in the next hundred. Predicting what number the rewatchable is going to be is a good bit. After Proof of Life 3 colon triple proof. Number 383. More Apex Mountain. Comedic cops? Wow. Like is this the funniest cops? That's not exactly a much celebrated subgenre these days. I know. That's why it could be Apex Mountain because after this, I don't know if we had comedic cops in the same way. We also tried in different movies. There was that weird. Seth Rogen made another one. What was that? Observe and Report. That one a little darker. Yeah, a little darker. That's like a mall cop. Yeah. Oh, 21 Jump Street, Craig says. Maybe that's the footwork. Apex Mountain for flipping your boner and your waistband. Has it ever gotten better for that or no? Was there? Was that something that you guys did? Was that a trick you pulled? I feel like Seth invented that one. Dartmouth. Apex Mountain for Dartmouth. Hmm. A lot of Dartmouth people at the ringer. Yeah. I know. Right? Right. Because you have this. You have this movie becomes such a success. Remembered in Zach Lowe. You think this is why Rem went to Dartmouth? For Superbad? Yeah. It was inspiring. This is why Amanda Dobbins went to Dartmouth for sure. For sure. No question. Gold Slick Vodka? Apex Mountain? Absolutely. Pretty sure that wasn't a real vodka. There's no question that my wife drank and vomited up lots of Gold Schlager Vodka. Yeah, Gold Schlager was one of the all-time evil bad idea liquors anyone's ever created. I'm amazed that they didn't actually. I think if they made this movie now and it would have been worse for a lot of different reasons. But one of the things would have been the carefully marketed Gold Slick Vodka, the real vodka coming out and being only 10,000 available and they just would have done shit like that. There's an NFT for it. Yeah. Hawaiian driver's license? I mean. It's got to be the peak. Yeah. I can't think of another. Maybe like the guy who played Sawyer from Lost's driver's license when he was making Lost. That would have been. That's a good one. Love Sawyer. People had t-shirts with that driver's license on it. Yeah, that was huge. That was a McLovin thing. It was a cultural wave for sure. Ben Simmons, my son, has a room that has two giant windows in it. One of the windows has a huge flag of the McLovin driver's license that covers the window. I'll put it on Instagram after we release this podcast. A flag? In case people don't believe me. It's a flag he bought on Amazon of the McLovin driver's license that all of a sudden showed up in the mail and he's like, my flag came. And we're like, what's going on? Does that mean he's like a citizen of the nation of McLovin? What does that indicate? He just loves McLovin. He loves this movie and he loves McLovin. We're going to take one more break and pick some nits. This episode is brought to you by Sleep Doctor. Let's say a good sleep is wildly underrated. You can do everything right, eat well, work out, sleep seven or eight hours and still feel exhausted. If you snore, wake up tired or crash during the day, it might be worth looking into. Sleep Doctor offers an at-home sleep study done in your own bed. They accept most insurance plans so you can pay as little as zero dollars. Visit sleepdoctor.com. All right, pick and nits. Why does Jules like Seth? Like, why? It's a good question. What's going on here? I think that's the most movie magic of this movie. We've seen a lot of schlubs get the girl or have the girl interested. That seemed improbable. Yeah. This one, like, he's getting spit on by bullies. He's worried about being Stephen Glansberg

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Jonah Hill23,020 ftThe Wolf of Wall Street, 2013, by 3,244 feet.
Emma Stone25,960 ftLa La Land, 2016, by 7,663 feet.

A grade for each call is not built yet. The board's answer is shown; whether the pod landed on it is a separate judgement, and it is not made here.