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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

The Doors 1991

With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan and Chuck Klosterman · 2 March 2021 · 22,037 feet

The claim

80:04 – 84:25

… Is that the bar he pisses in? Yeah, that, that was, it's not, it's became like a sports bar eventually. Uh, so anyway, big day for Barney's Beanery. Apex Mountain. Wait, there's one more. I just want to throw one more internet research thing. Cause I read this last night. Did you guys come across this? That in Jim Morrison's apartment, when he died, there was a copy of an early Oliver Stone script called Break, which was the, an early version of Platoon. Really? Really? That's what I read last night. And on like a. How could, how could that be? That seems, that seems half-assed. It is half-assed. I …

The whole segment, as transcribed

Barney's Beanery. Is it? They actually shot in Barney's Beanery? Yeah, apparently. Is that the bar he pisses in? Yeah, that, that was, it's not, it's became like a sports bar eventually. Uh, so anyway, big day for Barney's Beanery. Apex Mountain. Wait, there's one more. I just want to throw one more internet research thing. Cause I read this last night. Did you guys come across this? That in Jim Morrison's apartment, when he died, there was a copy of an early Oliver Stone script called Break, which was the, an early version of Platoon. Really? Really? That's what I read last night. And on like a. How could, how could that be? That seems, that seems half-assed. It is half-assed. I only saw it on one site. It was 71, right? When he died? Yeah. Yeah. So. It's not inconceivable, but it seems. I. In France? His apartment in France. Yeah. He has a copy of Oliver, of an early Oliver Stone script. Yes. This was on the, of, of, of, uh, article about the, um, re-release of the DVD and like its restoration. So I have not seen this anywhere else, but I like the idea of it. All right. Let's go to Apex Mountain. Oliver Stone. No. No. Oh, this is Kilmer's Apex Mountain. I personally think it's Kilmer's Apex Mountain. It's Kilmer's. You could make a case for he was in a Batman movie, but I, I think. Oh no. Who gives a shit? He was, that was like, this is by far his, like, I mean, I guess there are like two percent of people out there who would say that, that in that smaller role, he's actually better in like, like the whole Huckleberry thing. Yeah. I hear people quoted that. No, this is a giant movie star role. Yeah. This made him an A-lister and this changed his career and put him in the conversation with a bunch of the most important actors. So I agree. Meg Ryan. No. Desert drug scenes, Chuck. Apex Mountain. Did we do better in the desert with people doing drugs? Has it ever been topped? I suppose this, this movie really galvanized the idea that if you're going to take hallucinogenics, you should go to a desert. Why do we think that? Why not go to like a hotel resort pool? Well, you want to be in nature, but you don't, I don't know if you necessarily like a forest is just as good. Although, but it's like the desert is where you do these things now. I mean, that's just like, if you were making a mock, like a, like a mock satire of like rock movies, you would always have them go to a desert. Um, and like, uh, like the Mojave desert, I know that's the coldest desert in the world. Where is, what's the actual location of the Mojave desert? It's like the high desert Eastern California, right? Yeah. It, I, it did like, I've never really spent time in the desert, but it's like, it didn't look like any place I'd ever seen before. It was like, it was a, uh, like an aerial shot. It doesn't look like Joshua tree or something like that. It's an awesome looking desert. Like it looks like the Sahara. That's why they weren't allowed to film there. Uh, Frank Whaley might say Pulp Fiction for him. Yeah. I'd probably put, put, put, put it at Pulp Fiction. I really like Frank Whaley. Or career opportunities would be Frank Whaley. Yeah. I still have Frank Whaley stuck. Is that like you're saying when he was, how does this work? When he had, when he had the most juice in his career, most juice. I love that Chuck always wants to have a definition. It really does make no sense to me because I can't tell if you're saying that was the height of his career or if it was the position when the height was possible to reach. Like I never get it. It was the, both a height in his career that led to, he never had more opportunities coming out of this movie. Right. But wouldn't have this movie, this movie would have given him the opportunity to be in Pulp Fiction, right? Well, but the problem with this movie is that it wasn't a success. Yeah. That's why I can't give it to him. It didn't really set him up for anything. It put him on the radar, but I feel like after Pulp Fiction, it was like, he was so good in that, in a short dose in that, unlike Bruce Willis's girlfriend who almost ruined the movie for 20 minutes. Wish fantasy was here. Kyle McLaughlin. No. I'm going to say no. Twin Peaks. Yeah. It has to be. Michael Madsen, no. Billy Idol's movie career. I think definitely peaked in 1991. He's got James Cameron and Oliver Stone dying to work with him. Barney's Beanery, no question. And then the Doors music.

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Val Kilmer24,170 ftTombstone, 1993, by 4,270 feet.
Meg Ryan24,800 ftSleepless in Seattle, 1993, by 5,705 feet.
Jennifer Tilly21,200 ftBride of Chucky, 1998, by 3,562 feet.

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