Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
72:05 – 81:13… Tom Brady will be playing for the Jacksonville Jaguars. LeBron James will be back in Cleveland for the fourth time trying to win a title. So there you go. Apex Mountain. Interesting Damon conversation here. I'm going to say no, but wanted to mention it. What is Matt Damon's Apex Mountain then? If not this? Is it Good Will Hunting? Is it... It's later. It's got to be probably the first Bourne movie that becomes a monster. Yeah, I still think it's Bourne. I mean, we've had five years since this movie, and I don't know that Matt Damon has necessarily made the most of whatever slingshot gravity momentum he got …
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And then Chris, you mentioned earlier, Andy Weir said the story was set in 2035 when Tom Brady will be playing for the Jacksonville Jaguars. LeBron James will be back in Cleveland for the fourth time trying to win a title. So there you go. Apex Mountain. Interesting Damon conversation here. I'm going to say no, but wanted to mention it. What is Matt Damon's Apex Mountain then? If not this? Is it Good Will Hunting? Is it... It's later. It's got to be probably the first Bourne movie that becomes a monster. Yeah, I still think it's Bourne. I mean, we've had five years since this movie, and I don't know that Matt Damon has necessarily made the most of whatever slingshot gravity momentum he got from Martian. We almost need a special category where it's like the post-Apex Mountain Apex. Where it's like the I still got it mountain. Like the LeBron 2020. You thought I was done, but I'm really not. Watch this. That's all right. Anything we can do to make Apex Mountain more confusing. I think we got to do it. I don't really have anybody else for... Any actors in the movie for Apex Mountain here. I think everybody's either already at a good point in their career or headed for better things. I think it's Apex Mountain for potatoes. Honestly. Oh, yeah. I was going to say, what about botany? Yes, definitely. Oh, certainly botany. Yeah. Like if you had a botanist in your life, like let's say Van, one of his high school buddies, became a botanist and this movie came out. You'd be like, yo! Yay, dog! Holy shit! My G, it's your time, bro. They finally missed it. I don't know a botanist. Mark Watney is the only botanist I know. Botanists everywhere. Their tinders are just like exploding because all of a sudden it's like a search term. It's like, oh, you're a botanist? I just saw The Martian. Mars. Mars. Possibly. Apex Mountain for Mars? Not been a lot of great moments in Mars history. You know? It's total recall. What are you guys talking about? It's total recall. Yeah, you're right. Chris is right. But is it, is that Mars' Apex Mountain or is it just the like the line, the famous line? Because what happens on Mars, you know, it's okay in the movie, but like the Martian is Mars. I think that the idea of Mars becoming like Amsterdam is pretty like Apex to me. That's much like the total recall, like represent like the execution of Mars. I guess I can see what you're saying, but I think I'd go, I'd say, totally recall Mars' Apex Mountain. Pick and nets. So apparently Martian soil has since been found to be toxic to both plant and animal life. I think there's a few picking nets here. So that's kind of problematic. They do feel like microbial organisms have the potential to live on Mars. So if you're scoring at home, if you're a microbial organism, that could happen. So the big flaw in this movie is the storm in the beginning. Because apparently the atmospheric pressure on the Martian surface is so low that it would be akin to a very light breeze. And the author of the book that this was turned into a movie, Andy Weir, he said this was the biggest inaccuracy of the story. That they would not have a storm like this on Mars. I had, wouldn't Damon have lost more weight? But they do sneak that little side shot of him. And I think that he's, it's a body double because Ridley Scott, Damon's like, I'll lose the weight again. And Ridley Scott's like, no, no, no. Because he like, he almost died doing courage under fire. But, uh, so they used a body double for that. Um, it looks like the guy that they had in seven strapped to the bed. Oh yeah. It's rough. Chris liked that one. Um, I gotta say as a, as a nitpick, I still don't totally understand Donald Glover's plan. And I feel like I'm a relatively smart guy. There's a couple of moments in this movie where I'm just like, I'm not smart enough to understand that. I still don't understand the plan. And I've seen this movie five times at this point. I still don't totally get it. Do you guys a hundred percent understand what the plan was? Well, I think a lot of it is because of the first rocket blows up. Right. So like the, when the first one goes, the test rocket that they try blows up, they need to basically have an extreme plan, but they can only use the Chinese rocket once. But I, I mean, there's like a gravity pull and there's just stuff going on. It's basically like they're using the earth's gravitational pull to slingshot the spaceship back faster. Hmm. Because they don't have to wait the six months to mount the, like the actual mission. It's already up there. My only nit to pick right there is why hadn't anyone ever thought about that before? That seems like a pretty awesome way to get around space. If you can just whip around stuff. That was actually when I was watching the movie last night, I was thinking the same thing. I was like, why did it take Rich Purnell to have to come up with this idea? Like there's hundreds of people working on this right now and it's been happening for weeks and months and no one thought of this. But it doesn't make sense because of the way that he describes it, whether it is scientifically valid. I have no fucking idea. One thing I didn't get, let me know if this jumped out to you guys. Doesn't it seem like tarps become amazingly handy in this movie? Apex Mountain for tarps? Well, I was just like... Apex Mountain for tarps! I was under the impression that space was very hostile. You know, that it's hard to live up there. And apparently you just need a tent. Apparently you just need duct tape and some plastic. And you can just like seal the wall and seal your helmet. I've been watching space movies for quite some time. And usually people just explode when they come into contact with space. So I was just really surprised by the amount of fixer-upper stuff he was able to do with some tape and some tarp. Well, it's a classic movie where somebody says something expositionally and you're like, I guess that's true. Like in that case, somebody says like, well, the atmosphere in Mars' orbit is so thin that he only needs to put a tarp over the nose of his space module. And he'll be fine. And so once you hear someone say that, you're like, well, of course that's true. I have no idea if that's true, if you could survive that. But they just make you believe it. You know, back to Apex Mountain for duct tape. Duct tape in movies is usually somebody's going to die or get kidnapped. There's never like benevolent duct tape moments. The duct tape is like heroic in this movie. It's huge. It's like the coconuts in Castaway. Comeback Mountain for duct tape. Comeback Mountain. Best quote I like when he does the whole monologue about that ends with Mark Watney, space pirate. I'm about to leave for the Schiaparelli crater where I'm going to commandeer the Ares 4 lander. Nobody explicitly gave me permission to do this and they can't until I'm on board the Ares 4. So that means I'm going to be taking a craft over in international waters without permission, which by definition makes me a pirate. Mark Watney, space pirate. And I like what he brags about colonizing Mars. It does the in your face Neil Armstrong. There's a lot of like funny quotes like that. Yeah, I love how often he says here's the rub or, you know. Yeah, he's good. He's got good dialogue. Good sarcasm. My favorite one is the Chiwetel's are you kidding me thing. You think he means it like, are you kidding me? You know? Mm-hmm. Or like, are you kidding me? I think it might be the second one. Really? Uh-huh. Could be the first one. Are you kidding me? Yeah, it could be the first one. I love that. Do you think he, how do you think he means it? Like, are you thinking he means it? Like, are you kidding? Because he could mean it the other way. You know what I mean? I love that little scene. Yeah. Also, I love when Sean Bean and Benedict Warren explain to Chiwetel about how like they have to take the front of the spaceship off to get him going fast enough. And he's freaking out. And then Sean Bean's like, he hasn't even told you the bad part yet. Right. There's also the whole, the great like mission Elrond, Elrond nothing thing with Sean Bean who's in the Lord of the Rings movies. You know, it's a great, it's a great shout. I really like Chiwetel. Are we, are we sure he's having the career he should be having? Hmm. Hmm. Has he gotten enough good parts? He's really good in this movie. And I actually think it's kind of a hard part because I have to like him. I have to trust him. He has to be appropriately confused at the right time. He's going to be a little sarcastic. He's got to get mad a couple of times. He's kind of like the Don Cheadle of Britain. You know what I mean? I like that.
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