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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

Cocktail 1988

With Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey and Chris Ryan · 1 September 2020 · 20,343 feet

The claim

67:08 – 73:27

… and apparently they just cut it, but that's kind of why Brian was entertaining. Maybe stepping in with Kelly Lynch is a little revenge factor. I kept that in apex mountain, Tom Cruise. Here's the case. Rain Man and cocktail, both huge hits for different reasons and different levels of quality. And he's about to do born in the 4th of July and have his Oscar movie. And at this point, he is the number one star under the age of, I would say 40. And you're just buying all the Tom Cruise stock possible. Could this be apex mountain for Tom Cruise, Sean? I say 96. Jerry Maguire, I think we agreed on that when we did …

The whole segment, as transcribed

which sent Brian off in a rage. And then Coughlin says, I don't have any friends. And Brian says, as of right now, that is for sure. Um, and apparently they just cut it, but that's kind of why Brian was entertaining. Maybe stepping in with Kelly Lynch is a little revenge factor. I kept that in apex mountain, Tom Cruise. Here's the case. Rain Man and cocktail, both huge hits for different reasons and different levels of quality. And he's about to do born in the 4th of July and have his Oscar movie. And at this point, he is the number one star under the age of, I would say 40. And you're just buying all the Tom Cruise stock possible. Could this be apex mountain for Tom Cruise, Sean? I say 96. Jerry Maguire, I think we agreed on that when we did the Maguire pod. So that makes sense. Brian Brown. He would say no. He would say, please no. He would say, yeah, I think it's FX. Yeah. FX. Yeah. Yeah. I also, yeah, he's done a couple of things. Also, you could argue his apex mountain was marrying Rachel Ward, who is the fucking number one 80 smoke show. I don't know. Craig, look her up sometime. Elizabeth. Elizabeth. She, uh, I'm going to say no. She won an Oscar. Yeah. Jamaica. No, Jamaica, Jamaica, apex mountain for Jamaica. Cinematic apex mountain is belly. Hmm. Okay. I like that. Yeah. I think there has to be probably a Bob Marley and the whalers. Yeah. There's also connection to, to Jamaica. Can I bartending? I was just going to say that. Bartending. Is it this or cheers? So my case for this being the apex mountain of bartending is cheers is still a massive hit show at this point. And cocktail comes out. You have those two at the same time. And cocktail adds the extra element of athletic achievement to bartending, which wasn't, it's not, Sam Malone doesn't do that. So the answer is yes. Coughlin's law. I think this is the apex mountain of Coughlin's law. Was it the apex mountain of people just saying weird fucking things and claiming they were laws? But, but also the answer might be yes. Billy, if you were in a bar and a guy started speaking to you in the style of Coughlin's law, how many Coughlin's laws do you think you would, you would let that guy get away with before you were like, you need to get away from me? Like, how weird is it that this guy only speaks in like riddles and limericks? Well, the thing is, I'm sure there were some bad Coughlin's law that maybe got the cutting room floor. Like what, you know, whereas Flanagan's kind of like, yeah, that one didn't really work. They're all bad. I mean, I'm sure there were like some incoherent ones. They're all crazy. Because as Chris said, he crafted, Coughlin crafts all Coughlin's laws around his own behavior. So I'm sure like there were a couple of reaches. Kelly Lynch, I would say, so, Three of Hearts comes out. I'm going to say like 92 and it's got the sting song. It's got the shape of my heart and it was marketed really well. And I saw it in the theater on a date and it did really well. And she, at that point had the roadhouse cocktail, a couple other things in her background. And I would say that was her apex mountain. Cause I, she was one of the reasons I actually went to the theater to see a movie. You wouldn't have said that. 1988. Chris has always been a big white man's burden guy. I feel like he would say that's Kelly's apex, right? Chris. Coughlin's law. American greed, apex mountain. No, I think it's wall street. Okay. Gosh, I don't even have it. I don't, I don't have to think about that one. I decided to get weirder with apex mountain. That's a category throwing, throwing in more curve balls. And picking nets. Why was Coughlin working at a TGI Fridays? The, the possible answers are he was hiding. Um, he had just gotten out of jail or he was just coming off some sort of venture where he was owned a piece of the bar, but there was a, somebody who had a bigger stake. And then that person got fed up with Coughlin's law. I was like, can you just get the fuck out of here? I'm so tired of Coughlin's law. So he was trying to regroup at TGI Fridays. Basically. I, I, the latter, I like that one. I think that makes a lot of sense. He was involved in some sort of business venture and he got kicked out. Did we ever figure out why Coughlin actually slept with coral and his best friend's girlfriend to win a $50 bet? Like who does that? Is he just a monster? It's really weird the first time through because he, not only does he sleep with coral, he convinces coral to come to the bar and make out with him to like drive Brian crazy. Cause Brian talked about psychotic. Yeah. Yeah. And then the, the both of them essentially just like try to sleep with each other's significant others throughout the movie. I mean, it is a really bizarre relationship. My best friend, my only friend. It's like, well, you don't have any friends cause you try to like sleep with their girlfriends, dumb ass. And you get these dumb laws. Well, this is something that Chris and I have also been doing for years, you know, just to kind of challenge each other on an ongoing basis. Coughlin's law. Monogamy is a construct. So we think Flanagan spent like three years in Jamaica. By his math, that should have been enough money to open a bar. Why did he need money to open a bar? He's just, he just laid out all the math for us. He should have had like 70,000 bucks. It's not, it's not what it was meant. I think Jamaica is like just seductive enough to stay, but is not what he thought it was going to be. Because I think when we see how sort of quiet and tired that bar is, we're like, Oh, it's not really like the money monster that he thought it was going to be. Okay. Can I ask you guys a question? Yeah. Do you guys think that Tom Cruise's makeup is really weird in Jamaica? Did you notice that? Like that he has like a ton of makeup on in Jamaica? I didn't know if it was that or he got sunburned and they had to like put makeup on to cover the sunburn or something. Cause I do think these actors go to these locations and they get sunburned pretty quickly. There's what's that movie? Couples Retreat. Yeah. One of the guys gets so sunburned in that movie. It's hilarious. And you could just tell like they, he had just made a mistake.

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What the board says

This film IS their apex
Bryan Brown19,440 ftThe highest point of the career. Carries 45 of 100 of this film.
Their apex is elsewhere
Tom Cruise26,860 ftWar of the Worlds, 2005, by 7,043 feet.
Elisabeth Shue21,310 ftAdventures in Babysitting, 1987, by 3,122 feet.

A grade for each call is not built yet. The board's answer is shown; whether the pod landed on it is a separate judgement, and it is not made here.