Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
11:56 – 14:42… when it was kind of ending for Nick Cage where he was becoming a little bit of a punchline. It is interesting. It's like a different, Snake Eyes, it's not Apex Mountain for him. It's a different, it's almost like last title or it's almost like the 1998 Bulls with MJ for the Nick Cage career. The last dance, yeah. Yeah, it's almost like last dance for him where you go to Snake Eyes because it's him and De Palma. I still have faith everybody's going to make the right decisions and then it probably ends with 8mm, a movie that I love very much. The film is real! Well, that movie with that subject matter, he is …
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Gone in 60 Seconds, The Family Man, and Captain Crowley's Mandolin along with 8mm. I remember Captain Crowley's Mandolin. That's when it was kind of ending for Nick Cage where he was becoming a little bit of a punchline. It is interesting. It's like a different, Snake Eyes, it's not Apex Mountain for him. It's a different, it's almost like last title or it's almost like the 1998 Bulls with MJ for the Nick Cage career. The last dance, yeah. Yeah, it's almost like last dance for him where you go to Snake Eyes because it's him and De Palma. I still have faith everybody's going to make the right decisions and then it probably ends with 8mm, a movie that I love very much. The film is real! Well, that movie with that subject matter, he is the only guy, one of the only guys to me, and maybe you guys could think of somebody else, on his level of star, that would have went on that journey. That would have been like, yeah, showdown with me and Machine in a cemetery. He was fearless and he was really into kinky, transgressive stuff. He's still really good though. He's had like a little mini renaissance in the last five years. For sure. He was in Pig, he was in Dream Scenario a couple years ago. He's not a huge box office star anymore but he's still a really interesting actor. Long Legs? Long Legs, yeah. Every third or fourth movie. Long Legs! You like that. And he's still trying stuff. You know, like, even if you don't like Long Legs, he's going for it in that movie. He's doing something totally new. There's all kinds of stuff surrounding him about, like, you know, stuff that he's done off screen and stuff that he's bought and business and all that. He's fucking crazy. I mean, he's like a lunatic. You know what he is? He is legitimately, to me, one of the freest artists of my generation. As far as actors, there are other guys out there but Nick Cage is totally free. He makes movies, like the movie that he made. By free, you mean Bokkers? No, I mean free, like... He's not afraid to be judged. He's not afraid to be judged. Like, he puts the movie out there. The premise of the movie could be crazy. So he's like Craig. Like Craig. You know, he did make a film called Bangkok Dangerous and we're, of course, here with Bangkok Craig. Oh, that's why I forgot about Bangkok Craig. He's right over there. Even the whole Bangkok Dangerous era, that movie and then knowing... Knowing, yeah. That's a movie that on paper should have been amazing and then you watch it and you're like, God damn it. What the hell happened here? So it's not a movie that is great but it is a movie that is better than you remembering. Yeah. Yeah. And he's just, he has a thing, before we started recording, we were talking about movie stars. He's got a thing where he can just hold a movie on his shoulders. No matter how good or how bad the movie is, if it's an hour and 10 minutes or two, you know, an hour and 40 minutes, like, you can hang with him the whole time and that is rarer than we realize.
96:35 – 102:22… so what what's a good title then Fight Night oh you did say Fight Night Fight Night's good Fight Night works everybody's fighting their own battle sure yeah Apex Mountain for Cage no De Palma no fixed boxing movies Dick's no ooh Rispoli Rispoli yes I have a Rispoli Carla no Atlantic City as a viable destination for a movie like this yes now I think the answer to that is the movie Atlantic City the Louis Moll movie which is for Lancaster Susan Sarandon which is an amazing movie but this would be number two for me you know that movie never saw it that's a throw your life away Susan Sarandon performance what era …
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that's the house that's why I said I don't think it would go over well get your head out of your ass Craig I'm just saying Craig I like this stay woke I like when Craig sags so what what's a good title then Fight Night oh you did say Fight Night Fight Night's good Fight Night works everybody's fighting their own battle sure yeah Apex Mountain for Cage no De Palma no fixed boxing movies Dick's no ooh Rispoli Rispoli yes I have a Rispoli Carla no Atlantic City as a viable destination for a movie like this yes now I think the answer to that is the movie Atlantic City the Louis Moll movie which is for Lancaster Susan Sarandon which is an amazing movie but this would be number two for me you know that movie never saw it that's a throw your life away Susan Sarandon performance what era are we talking about 1981 yeah that's her throw your life away era for sure she's very attractive in that song that's another movie that's gone that's one of those 80s 90s movies there's no record older guy character piece no it's like gone oh people don't watch it yeah yeah no I think it's like doesn't exist I think it's one of those that's just out I have thoughts about the older guy character piece I love those movies I love them I love a movie where it's like this guy's 63 but they won't do them anymore it's all slipping through his fingers because the older guys they want to be too young they want to be too young this is the problem you know Criterion the the the streaming app which is really good and every month they change the movies and they'll have some that haven't been streaming for a while their programming is amazing on that service them and AMC are the only ones left that would have a movie like Atlantic City but for the most part they're just gone and I don't know whether it's like a rights thing but it's really frustrating especially for this show because there's movies we can't do because they don't exist Revenge of the Nerds it's gone do you know like this is interesting that we're talking about this like a month ago like I'm at the crib and I was just like I want to watch The Mac you seen The Mac? yeah I want to watch The Mac I could not find The Mac to watch it Bernie Casey? no The Mac is The Mac is Max Julian as that's what it was yeah so like the closest you can come is watching them watch it in True Romance that's what Drexel Spivey is watching on the TV right? yeah you see I know I'm pretty but I'm not pretty it's a couple of titties but like it's that one's gone yeah The Mac couldn't find The Mac wanted to watch The Mac couldn't find The Mac watch Settle for Superfly as always I'll just say by physical media you will always have access to these movies yeah that is true some of them oh Atlantic City is you can rent it The Mac somewhere great recommend it it's a good movie oh no that's the wrong one I bet my mom and them got it they gotta have it in Louisiana somewhere I know we got it somewhere Atlantic City oh anyway alright moving on this episode is brought to you by Sleep Doctor let's say a good sleep is wildly underrated you can do everything right eat well, work out sleep 7 or 8 hours and still feel exhausted if you snore wake up tired or crash during the day it might be worth looking into Sleep Doctor offers an at home sleep study done in your own bed they accept most insurance plans so you can pay as little as $0 visit sleepdoctor.com uh oh Apex Mountain how about this yeah boxing matches in non-boxing movies in a movie that's not about boxing it's not I think what else is in there like in a movie that's like Pulp Fiction we don't see the fight at all like think about it this movie is not about boxing normally boxing matches come in movies that are specifically about boxing or about the sport it's a very good call there definitely has gotta be another example there's gotta be yeah you should prep Sean it's gonna come now I'm gonna just be haunted when I forget to name one movie his own Criterion closet just looking for a boxing movie well there's a lot of movies in the 40s in the 50s like this right like the harder they fall is technically about the 50s version with Bogart it's technically about fights but it's not a fight movie but there's a fight in it right I'm trying there's gotta be a good example of this I can't think of it yeah I'll think of it about nine hours from now after the pod's already done Stan Shaw no I do like Stan Shaw yeah he's awesome I think he's a little miscast in this oh Hunter he's too old but I think I was trying to think what his he's been in a lot of good stuff but I think that number one is probably Great Santini oh but he's also in this movie that doesn't exist anymore Tough Enough with Dennis Quaid where Dennis Quaid's in a tough man competition and Stan Shaw is like his I think he's the other guy in it but he's been around Stan Shaw was in five boxing movies somehow I feel like I know him what do I know him best from does he have a boxing background because he must oh I know him from Monster Squad ever seen Monster Squad oh the kids they all get together and they're gonna go fight the monsters because the monsters come out of the vortex right and Abraham Van Helsing he comes in at the end of the movie but then like the end before he comes in they have this girl she's supposed to have a virgin read this incantation that's gonna send Dracula back to this thing and they have one of their friends of the Monster Squad they have their sister read the incantation and it doesn't work because it turns out she's not a virgin and you didn't know this because you figure she's like 16 17 years old it's facts it is it's a it's facts I definitely haven't seen this it turns out and then they have one of their little sisters who's a little girl she reads it Van Helsing comes back through the thing gets Dracula pulls him back through the vortex they win
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