Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
63:02 – 66:15… There's some, I mean. There's an uncomfortable, the first sex encounter with Adrian and Rocky. I have some questions. Lil Rocky. A lot of hair in Lil Rocky. Apex Mountain. Oh. Too tough to say for Coogler or MBJ. Uh, can I say something crazy? Well, this might be the time to have your MBJ conversation. That's what I'm, that's what I'm. Um, because there, it is Paul, his performance in Black Panther, which I still have not seen. Uh, but I will have seen it by the time people are in this podcast. It's been polarizing. Yeah. And there's a chance this Creed could be Apex Mountain for him. Who knows? I don't know …
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Rocky one has some reprehensible behavior. There's some, I mean. There's an uncomfortable, the first sex encounter with Adrian and Rocky. I have some questions. Lil Rocky. A lot of hair in Lil Rocky. Apex Mountain. Oh. Too tough to say for Coogler or MBJ. Uh, can I say something crazy? Well, this might be the time to have your MBJ conversation. That's what I'm, that's what I'm. Um, because there, it is Paul, his performance in Black Panther, which I still have not seen. Uh, but I will have seen it by the time people are in this podcast. It's been polarizing. Yeah. And there's a chance this Creed could be Apex Mountain for him. Who knows? I don't know what to think. For Coogler or for Jordan? For Jordan. So most people I think first saw him as Wallace on The Wire. Yeah. Right. Which is a very tragic and important character. Basically in TV history. I mean, he, his murder in that show, and I'm sorry to spoil it for anybody, is the most powerful inciting incident in the first season of The Wire and kind of explains how everything starts to come apart for the, the Barksdale empire. And his, his role in that is just really, really important. And he becomes this like vision of lost innocence and for that to be his core thing. And then he eventually goes on to Friday Night Lights as Vince Howard in a more, a role that I think is a little bit closer to the Creed Black Panther vision of sort of like defiance, strength, trying to figure out who you are as a man. He's on Parenthood, which our friend Julia Lipman would like us to point out. He had a weird little stretch right after he played Vince on, on FNL. When he made the Parenthood cameo and it was like, oh, is it going to happen for this guy or not? He has Red Tails. He's the third guy in Chronicle. And then for the Hottes. By the way, it's not like, it's not like we were overflowing with young black actors. No. Right. During this area. No. But I do think on Friday Night Lights, when people remember that he was Wallace, I at least was like, this guy's really good. He was great on Friday Night Lights. He was amazing on Friday Night Lights. Yeah. He was really good. I saw FNL before I saw The Wire. Like, Smash Williams was probably not very good in Friday Night Lights. He was okay. He's fine. He's, by the way, is the Mark Ruffalo winner for Friday Night Lights. He's a lot of their new moments. But MBJ, you could kind of tell he was something. But a year later, he connects with Coogler for Fruitvale. And then. And he's a star in that movie and you know. Yes. Yeah. And then what happens? He makes a Fantastic Four movie. He plays Johnny. He takes Chris Evans' leftovers and plays Johnny Storm. Well, he's only got that terrible, terrible, that awkward moment role that he does. Well, that's after. I don't mind the movie. Right before Fantastic Four is that awkward moment? He goes that awkward moment in Fantastic Four and everybody's like, oh my God, is it over for MBJ? But plays like a loser character who's not kind of. That movie's about Miles Teller. He's getting cheated on basically. Yeah. Do you guys like him in Chronicle? I don't remember him in Chronicle. It's kind of a nothing part. It is, right? Dane DeHaan is the person you remember from that movie. Yeah. He certainly is. Because he's really interesting. Like Michael B. Jordan has nothing to do. I feel that way about a few of these, this era for him. Well, that's the era though, right? I mean, that's it.
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