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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

Someone to Watch Over Me 1987

With Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan · 29 April 2025 · 20,862 feet

The claim

68:40 – 74:15

… Research. You mentioned the Queen Mary thing. I kind of did all my research. I had a lot of Mimi Rogers research. I don't really have any extra stuff. Apex Mountain. Berenger? I think it's Platoon. Well, this is 87. So like it's Platoon. He gets recognized in Platoon like this 12 month period. Yes. You're right. Mimi Rogers. She's the star of this movie that they're pushing the hell out of it. And she's married to Tom Cruise. I feel like it probably is. You know, the great Bobby Wagand asked her why they hadn't worked together yet. And I was thinking she could have easily been the Gina Gershon role in a …

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Oh my God. Anybody in this movie. Maybe like a friend of Ellie's. Yeah. Half-Fast-Earned Research. You mentioned the Queen Mary thing. I kind of did all my research. I had a lot of Mimi Rogers research. I don't really have any extra stuff. Apex Mountain. Berenger? I think it's Platoon. Well, this is 87. So like it's Platoon. He gets recognized in Platoon like this 12 month period. Yes. You're right. Mimi Rogers. She's the star of this movie that they're pushing the hell out of it. And she's married to Tom Cruise. I feel like it probably is. You know, the great Bobby Wagand asked her why they hadn't worked together yet. And I was thinking she could have easily been the Gina Gershon role in a cocktail. They wanted to work together. Yeah. But she wasn't. Brocco. No. We said it was Goodfellas. Yes. Not Sopranos. No. Arturus. Fugitive. Ridley Scott. Gladiator. It's definitely not this. Definitely not this. Yeah. Someone to watch over me renditions in a movie. I mean, when you have three of them, I think, I think it's got to be Apex Mountain. Counter. Mr. Holland's opus. Rowena sings Someone to Watch Over Me. And Richard Dreyfuss's wife realizes that maybe something's going on there. And she has that great performance. So that might be, that's, I mean, you have three of them in this, but that's probably a more famous movie. I would say probably that movie. Queens? Movies in Queens? What are the competitions? Well, I mean, like a lot of Goodfellas takes place in Queens, right? But do people think of Goodfellas as a Queens movie? Queens Boulevard? It's Jesus. I was just reading the, I just caught up on the Seth Rogen versus Doug Allen blood feud for the last 20 years that the studio reignited this week. Uh-huh. Craig, are you familiar with this? Yeah. They hate each other. And Seth Rogen wrote a Simpsons episode that like shits on Entourage. And they've just been going, because he was going to be Turtle, right? He was supposed to. Yeah. But then he took a shot at it. Yeah. He took a shot at Entourage. And then there's a 2009 Entourage episode that starts with the characters talking about knocked up for like a minute. And Turtle's like, I don't understand. That guy's so ugly. How does he land Katherine Heigl? He's so ugly. And they're just like saying how ugly he is for like 45 seconds. Um, so it's still going. Uh, great Queens movie is coming to America. That's the best Queens movie. I think you're right. Um, apex mountain for the Guggenheim. What are the other candidates? Well, just like, I guess the Guggenheim museum. Just looks great. Existing would probably be bigger than being in. But in a movie. No, in a movie. Yeah. I can't remember another Guggenheim scene. Actually. The only other one I had for apex mountain was rich, hot, social egg characters. The platonic idea of what that is. I just don't, I didn't remember that. Guggenheim is. That's probably the apex. Rich, rich, hot, social egg characters in a movie. Really needs to go up a notch. No, I think, I think talented Mr. Ripley is, is hot. Social. Oh, Gwyneth Paltrow's character. Marge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Cruz or Hanks? Hanks. Yeah. Although it would be pretty funny if Cruz was playing Mike. And instead of the sex scene, they're just laughing in bed after. Him and Claire. He spills like a cranberry juice on the side table. And they just laugh. Where he trips over Tommy's skateboard. He's like, Tommy. Skating. Yeah. I go. Hanks to score. Scorsese or Spielberg is a little more interesting. Could make the case for both. Yeah. I mean, the material would lend itself probably more to Scorsese. I think, especially at this time. Cocaine gets involved with Mike. I think. Yeah. I think Mike and Scotty. I haven't seen where there's a fucking bender in the bunk beds. Yeah. He's that one. Scotty's that the other. Yeah. She's good. She's a screamer. What role would Philip Seymour Hoffman have played? It could be when Hawkins, you could talk me into, you could talk me into Neil. I'm going to go with Kuntz, the cop with the stud earring. Oh, just randomly thrown in there. Okay. Picking nits. What the fuck is Venza doing? Like what, what, what is the plan? Is he Kaiser Soze? Like, how has he just got, he runs roughshod. First of all, what, what is Venza made his money doing? Is he the mob? Is he in the mafia? Yeah. Yeah. It seems like he's one of the preeminent mafia people in New York, but also now slumming it, just trying to kill this one lady and doesn't have other people trying to kill her. Cause the beginning of the movie, it's basically, he is given probably dirty money to win Hawkins, to open this club or to do whatever he's done. And now when is buying him out, he's like, I don't want to be bought out. So he just kills when, but he murders a guy in cold blood, tries to intimidate a witness, uh, gets caught at the Guggenheim doing it again. Yeah. Uh, then gets out. Yeah. But like, why isn't he free? Like they're like, yeah, he's free. You didn't read him as right. So now he's out. Is he out on bail or is he just out?

87:02 – 89:49

… of them. You know, you get the, the love triangle. You got like the twangy guitar sound, like in between scenes, you got dance club. I think this is hairdo Apex mountain. Yeah. This is, this is the Wade LeBron and Bosch big three of hair, eighties hairdos. Hmm. Out of the three of them. Yeah. There was a lot of style. The best mom hair I've ever seen. It's like bordering on Marge Simpson. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but it's just no gratuitous nudity. We have to have that. No sex scene. It's a huge miss. I was almost wondering if I was watching the TV cut. Yeah. I was like, did I admit like, is there really no …

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I want like a fourth round tackle out of Chattanooga. Yeah. And that's what this movie is. It's, it's a couple squares short of eighties movie bingo, but it hits a lot of them. You know, you get the, the love triangle. You got like the twangy guitar sound, like in between scenes, you got dance club. I think this is hairdo Apex mountain. Yeah. This is, this is the Wade LeBron and Bosch big three of hair, eighties hairdos. Hmm. Out of the three of them. Yeah. There was a lot of style. The best mom hair I've ever seen. It's like bordering on Marge Simpson. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but it's just no gratuitous nudity. We have to have that. No sex scene. It's a huge miss. I was almost wondering if I was watching the TV cut. Yeah. I was like, did I admit like, is there really no nudity in this movie? I mean, there's like a bear, Berenger ass. Yeah. Cause I think I, I honestly don't understand it. That's really like, I think he was trying to make it very tasteful and classical. Like he's not really like a big, crazy nudity sex guy. You know, Sigourney Weaver at the end of aliens in her underwear, Mimi Rogers is like in a turtleneck the whole day. Right. Right. Well, it's an interesting choice because like Mimi's tall and she's, I would, I'll say the word buxom. Mm hmm. And they really try to hide her in clothes the entire movie. We, you don't know it. Cause it's all about like her hair and her face. It's also like, what is it? I guess it must be like fall in New York. I mean, like it's appropriate for like the weather and like, that's why we needed the jet scene. Yeah. We needed a jet scene. Can you imagine if, if Mike takes Claire to the jets? Oh my God. She was like, I wanted to show you some of my world. So we're going to sit next to fireman and munch gas. Some kid in a Johnny lamb Jones Jersey throws up next to her. She starts booting up Miller Lite. Mike is really borderline concussed when she's like, do you want to go grab a drink? He like sits there and thinks about it for 15 seconds. Yeah. He's like cocktails, huh? Yeah. I'm like, well, what's Mike's deal? Let's go have those cocktails. Should this would have been a good category. Should Mike have had a mustache? Would you give him a New York? Cause he has a mustache earlier. He should have, but this was 87. We're getting, we're getting towards the nineties. So I think guys were. Yeah. That category we have about, did this movie need a sports scene? This movie so clearly needs a jet scene with him going to the jets with three of his buddies, not with Claire, but when they're like, so Mikey, what's going on with you and that rich broad? It would be funny if there was like a, a Tommy skateboarding sequence where he's like doing all these tricks and stuff, but Mike's just daydreaming about nailing. Tommy breaks an ankle. I would like to say good morning to Mimi Rogers. I was unfamiliar with her game. Yeah. So what'd you think? Were you surprised that this was basically the best movie she's been in? Yeah. Her name is a name I've always known, but I could never put a face to it. I could not have told you a movie she's in. And she, I mean, she's up there. It's an incredible.

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