Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
91:50 – 101:32… happened in that bar? What? Frank Pentangeli was strangled. Yes, he was. Wow. In G2. Oh my God. Does that make it? To just jump the line here. Is it Apex Mountain for cinema bars? Oh, this is like a whole other podcast, Chris. Jeez. If Frank Pentangeli dies or gets strangled in your bar and also Frank Galvin picks up Charlotte Rampling in your bar. There's one more movie in that bar too. Yeah. Crocodile Dundee. Oh. Yeah. Well, this sounds like one of the great bars of all time. But was it like a movie bar? Except it's pretending to be a Boston bar which is like just class. Somehow Boston loses again …
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It's the Horseshoe. Do you want to tell him or should I? I've been in there before. You tell Sean. You've been in there? Do you know what else cinematically happened in that bar? What? Frank Pentangeli was strangled. Yes, he was. Wow. In G2. Oh my God. Does that make it? To just jump the line here. Is it Apex Mountain for cinema bars? Oh, this is like a whole other podcast, Chris. Jeez. If Frank Pentangeli dies or gets strangled in your bar and also Frank Galvin picks up Charlotte Rampling in your bar. There's one more movie in that bar too. Yeah. Crocodile Dundee. Oh. Yeah. Well, this sounds like one of the great bars of all time. But was it like a movie bar? Except it's pretending to be a Boston bar which is like just class. Somehow Boston loses again in the 80s to New York anything. Goddamn right. Was it like a movie bar though or was it like an active bar? It used to be called PH Vazix. And I don't know when it switched to the horseshoe. We used to be a country, man. PH Vazix? Yeah. Where are you going? Headed to Vazix. Maybe you call it PHV? PHV? But yeah. It's terrifyingly close to HPV. Yeah. Do you think they should have allowed anything to be filmed in there after Frankie P almost gets choked to death? I just, what were the Boston guys doing that Lumet couldn't go four hours north and go shoot this? I told my dad last night I FaceTimed him. I did. I FaceTimed him. I was like, I learned something in the verdict. I just want you to hear it now. I don't want you to know on the podcast that it was a New York bar and he couldn't believe it. And then both of us were like, we have all of these bars. Like, the Boston bars are right there. And yet, the bar in this film is perfect. It is, but maybe, I don't know. It was probably like a Miles O'Shea, Miles O'Shea type character was just like, ah, you want to shoot here, Sonny, you're going to have to pay the man. Instead, they went down and you were... We don't want your movie making the church look bad. Is any of the movie shot in Boston? Oh, yeah. Like all the exteriors. All the exteriors. A lot of the exteriors are. Newman almost got hit by a light weighing several hundred pounds that fell three feet away from him during one of the scenes and almost died. That would have been bad. That happened. Frank used eye drops to hide the redness in his eyes caused by alcoholism, according to Lumet, and said that was Newman's idea. I like that scene when he puts the eye drops in and he's trying to wait for the elevator and then he sees the out of order sign is pulled off the wall and he's like, God damn it! And he has to go walk up the stairs. He's so mad he has to walk up stairs. You mentioned the two cast members who were in 12 Angry Men. Edward Binns and Jack Worden. Yeah, Binns plays the bishop. Six and seven. Apex Mountain. Newman, no. Sidney Lumet. What is it? Network? It's gotta be, right? Dong Afternoon. It's not Network? Serpico. It's not Network? Network is the movie for me that got me hooked on him. But Network is kind of an outlier in his... But when did he have the most juice? Serpico? Probably Network. Yeah, I would say Network. That's the one that has like, you know, is nominated in all of the major categories and wins and all the, you know. Jack Worden, I would say Shampoo because then that paves the way for Jack Worden era 75 to 82. Yeah. One of the great eras. It's like Joe Montana in the 80s. Pedro. Pedro in the Red Sox. I don't know if you're kidding but you're right. Jack Worden. It's just a fact. Great Leopard Bekeeper. What's Mamet's Apex Mountain? Probably Glengarry. It's Glengarry. Yeah. Lindsay Krauss? Probably this. Probably House of Games. House of Games. She's a star. Fair. How about your girl CR? I have to admit she's made dozens of films internationally so I would imagine that she's had other apexes but for me this was this was a comet screaming across the sky. Probably The Night Porter is the international film that she's best known for. Yeah. Didn't she just get nominated for the Andrew Hay movie like a couple years ago? 45 years. Yeah. I don't know if she was nominated for that. It's a good movie though. Yeah. Cinema Bars. St. Elmo's Fire is out. I mean it doesn't have to be. You can throw it in the mix. Out in terms of being the greatest bar movie bars? I was kidding. What's the name of that bar? The St. Elmo's Fire Bar? Yeah. I can't remember. The Movie Location Bars. I'm trying to think what were the great movie location bars since. Coyote Ugly. CR you check your Twitter replies. Maybe people can check Twitter replies on the or maybe So you want them to tweet at me about bars? Yeah. Okay. You're big on Twitter these days. You're big on Twitter these days. You are. You like to get in there after you see a movie and you're just like I saw a movie. Yeah. And people are like thanks for going to see that. It's great. It's an incredible experience I have. Oh you guys are so cute. Boston Movies Apex Mountain. Now that I got Warnock elected I'm off Twitter. You know. I can retire on my bots. I have Good Will Hunting for a Boston movie Apex Mountain just because it also launched Damon and Affleck. This movie didn't launch anything it was just a great movie. Good Will Hunting actually like launched two careers. What's that bar? What's the How Do You Like Them Apples? That's Charlie's right? No it was there there was two the one they did that was in Cambridge but then the other one was a Southie bar that I had never been to. Okay. Yeah. That they was specifically scouted by Affleck. Affleck though when he did The Town he did Old Sully's in Charlestown which I thought was just we talked about that when we did that bar. Inspired. Yeah. It was just amazing. Like we didn't I live two blocks from Old Sully's and didn't go. It was like you had to be from Charlestown to go there. What's the bar in The Departed where the guy's like it's a natural diuretic where he gets his face smashed in. Do you know who I am? Yeah. What's that bar? God. Was that I can't remember did they shoot The Departed mostly in Toronto or New York or anything? They definitely jerry-rigged that one. Another W for New York. I can't remember. We've done two Departed podcasts. The Goodfellas Bar is a great one but that was only in one movie though. What the fuck are we talking about? But it has to be two movies. Yeah. Oh well then it's definitely this bar. It has to be a multi-movie location so that I don't know if anyone can get the verdict in Godfather 2. Good luck. The bar with the Christmas party in Goodfellas that's like an all-time bar. That's an all-time bar. Trial movies Apex Mountain? I thought about this a lot. I mean Would you say it's Feet Good Men? Well are you talking about like this is when courtroom dramas were at their apex or are you just saying this is the best trial movie I've ever got? I think Did You Order the Code Red is about as big as Yeah I would say Feet Good Men too. That part of the movie is the most exciting moment in courtroom drama history. It's probably 12 Angry Men if we're talking about I know but the thing about that movie is is you're never in the courtroom. You're only in the jury room. So it's a tricky one but that's one of the greatest movies ever made. It's hard. I mean there's not actually not as many as you would think that are truly truly great. How about Disco Fever Pinball? Definitely. Is that what he's playing Disco Fever? Yeah. He kind of sucks at pinball. Really weird coincidence my stepdad had a Disco Fever pinball machine in Connecticut. No way. Same fucking one. Yeah. Are you sure it wasn't from the set? Played that a lot. The verdict? I don't think it was the same. How about Drinking an Egg? Apex Mountain? This and Rocky. Yeah. What else do you have? Guys keeping six packs of Budweiser and filing cabinets in their office. Bushmills. Bushmills. Big, big look for Bushmills in this movie. Do you have a Bushmills face here? I didn't. I was always more of a Jameson person and then I got more into bourbon and rock. It was a big Jacko. When we were in New York Jacko is a big Bushmills guy. In like the late 2000s when we were living in New York Bushmills was like it's time for us to be cool. Oh yeah. They did a lot of creators. And they started sponsoring TV on the radio to be in Bushmills ads and it was like wow can Bushmills get cool? And it kind of worked. I definitely ordered a Bushmills now and then in a bar so I was like But you were always a Jameson guy weren't you? I was Jameson growing up. All JMO in the fantasy family. I was Bushmills. Best racehorse named Frank Alvin? If there was a horse named Frank Alvin would you be into here? Can we call the horse go get me some cigarettes? Who were these men? The horse. Pick and nits. Alright let's go. Why doesn't Frank have a Boston accent? Well because Come on. But it's perfect that none of these guys have Boston accents so we don't have to spend fucking two hours talking about whether they had Boston accents or not. Listen it was the right choice and it would have been distracting if they didn't pull it off correctly but if Frank is going to have a Boston accent. Yeah. Jack Gordon's from fucking Newark. Right. He is the he's the all time New York New Jersey guy. So I think one Lumet doesn't care. Right. He's like I don't I'm not interested in doing like the emotional typography of Boston. Two it might have been a little distracting if everyone was like park the car you know like it would have been fucking amazing though if nobody had it and then when when Rampling opens her mouth she's like are you gonna go park the car fucking what? Take me to your fucking apartment. You think you're better than me Frank? How would you feel if Newman did a Boston accident and effed it? Would it totally change your relationship? I think he would have pulled it off. I don't think he would have done it in this and maybe he tried to do it and it just didn't work. That's possible. This is a big one. Why didn't the couple just fire Frank? He didn't tell them about the offer. They could fire their lawyer and get another one. I think they're a little under prepared for that. Like I don't think they understand really what's going on right? They're essentially So they think they're stuck with him because they hired him. There are a lot of like aspects of the legal parts of the case that don't really
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