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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

Before Sunrise 1995

With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan and Sean Fennessey · 28 January 2025 · 24,360 feet

The claim

82:11 – 89:09

… Bloom. They visited Graveyard. June 16th was the day James Joyce met his life partner, Nora Barnacle. Great name. Yeah. Link later. Joyce, he's an artist. Apex Mountain. Ethan Hawke? Uh, I... I think he... You can talk me into it. Apex and a re-Apex, and I think Apex is Reality Bites, and then re-Apex is Training Day. I think it's Training Day, but I could be talked into this movie. But the only thing is, this movie didn't do that well, and it kind of... He's been in movies since he was like eight so far. It was a slow burn. This had a big cable run, and I think a lot of people loved it, but it took a …

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Kath Bloom, Molly Bloom. They visited Graveyard. June 16th was the day James Joyce met his life partner, Nora Barnacle. Great name. Yeah. Link later. Joyce, he's an artist. Apex Mountain. Ethan Hawke? Uh, I... I think he... You can talk me into it. Apex and a re-Apex, and I think Apex is Reality Bites, and then re-Apex is Training Day. I think it's Training Day, but I could be talked into this movie. But the only thing is, this movie didn't do that well, and it kind of... He's been in movies since he was like eight so far. It was a slow burn. This had a big cable run, and I think a lot of people loved it, but it took a couple years to really hit it. What are you thinking? I don't know. I mean, I think he had a third wave in boyhood. Well, that's... I mean, it's connected, right? Like, the... The boyhood and the purge? The purge, sinister boyhood period of his career. The other thing that happened is, he got really good at doing press. Really good. He's like... One of the best podcast guests ever. He's an unbelievable storyteller. He's just a great talker. And I think he kind of cemented his place in movie history in some ways with that third wave of success. And so, I don't know. It's like, this movie wasn't a huge hit. Training Day is a huge hit, but it's a huge hit because of Denzel. And he did a lot in that, you know, that the Blumhouse plus I keep doing Linklater movie stretch. Yeah. That I think confirmed him in a way. I don't know. Maybe that might have been his apex. I mean, sinister and the purge made a lot of money. That's probably the answer. Joey Delpy, I would say before sunset. Your rail trains? Sure. Austrian palm readers? Absolutely. Definitely, yeah. Littering? Great littering in this movie. They just leave the wine glasses in the bottle just in the park at the end. That's true. That's a good point. Vienna? Probably the Billy Joel song. Yeah. There's also a couple other cultural touchstones there. But nothing like the Billy Joel song. I think the third man, which is also set in Vienna, would be a good one. Yeah. Billy Joel. That song's multi-generational. Yeah. It's kind of the Kath Blooms come here of the late stage Billy Joel thing. Billy Joel. People love that song. What about, is this Apex Mountain for first dates? It's the greatest first date in the history of love. So it's this or Neil and Edie in the finals. That's right. Neil and Edie. Starting out at a diner, talking about a book about medals, and then they end up in some awesome place of the view. And then he takes off in the morning. Then he takes off in the morning. I don't think I'm well-suited to be the adjudicator of best first dates in movies. I wish we had thought about this more. We should have researched this more. Best first date in the movie. Actually, Colin Farrell and Gong Lee and Miami Vice go to get some more videos. That is the fucking answer. Top that. You like the marido? I can't. Yeah, it's good. On another hand here, is this Apex Mountain for date movies? If your relationship is going well, it's a great movie. If it's not going well, it's a confrontation. It's a great point. If you saw this movie in 95, and you weren't really getting along with whoever you were dating, you would leave the movie side-eyeing them and be like, I don't feel this way. You would say, why am I wasting my time when there could be a Jesse or a Celine out there for me? That's like my got to see about a girl story. Yeah. From Goodwill. Apex Mountain for Gen X. I think it's a year earlier. I think 94 was the peak. 95 were in the last remnants. Well, 95 is kicking and screaming in this, right? Yeah. But I think 94 is fresher, cooler. Okay. We got Reality Bites that year. I think it's 93 or 94. The music was better in 93, 94. Are we sure it's not the election of Barack Obama? For Gen X? Wow. Oh, that's interesting. Still the only Gen X president we've had. Probably will be the only one. Listing booths? Apex Mountain? No, it's clearly Philip Seymour Hoffman and the talented Mr. Ripley. Vibing out to the jazz music. Oh. I would go for this. Kath Bloom, definitely. Anonymous cemeteries, no question. Okay. Cruz or Hanks? Let's go. I got Hanks. Oh. Really? No. Oh, I think Cruz is clearly the answer. Gotta be Cruz. You don't think Hanks? Cruz doing his motor mouth routine. Cruz would be amazing. Cruz trying to do this movie would be mess. It seems like he's wearing a skin suit. If he's like, they go into like a time machine, okay? You know, like, don't you think he'd be- Sign me up! A lot of his parts are like this. A lot of his movies are like this. Honestly, he's doing- There's multiple scenes in Cocktail like this. Yes. A lot of his 80s movies. I'm very surprised that I'm on an island here. I'm going this far. This is the movie Cruz should have made. He's missing this from his IMDb, Young Man IMDb, 10-year stretch. I wish he made a movie like this. Yeah. I mean, I guess the closest he gets is Jerry Maguire, right? Yeah. Another fast-talking, emotional, romantic- But that's like, he generalized a huge movie. It's like, let's spend 24 hours with Cruz trying to win a girl over it. He never did it. He and me later- De Niro tried to do it once with that Meryl Streep movie, and it was a disaster. Some people just don't have any of them. Is that the one? No, that was Pacino. Oh, yeah. What was the one? It was called Falling in Love, I think. Stanley and Iris? Is that what you're thinking of? No, De Niro did a movie called Falling in Love. Isn't Stanley and Iris like about a few people getting sick or something? Or no? That was a different one. No, this was in the 80s. I haven't seen that. It was De Niro and Meryl Streep, and it was positioned as these two huge actors are finally together. And it just was like, they had no chemistry. And that's why you didn't even remember it. No, Stanley and Iris was De Niro and Jane Fonda. Yeah. So, we trumped CR, Cruz wins, two to one. You guys dunked on me. Yeah. I got you on the Cruz side for once. That's great. Yeah, you guys are usually on the opposite, aren't you? Young Hanks. Well, we're in a death war until we die about who's superior. What do you mean? I love Cruz the most. What? What are you talking about? I fucking have defended cocktail multiple times in my life. Someone just had a criteria orgasm I'm talking about. I love Cruz. Okay. Okay. But I think if you're going to say 1984 range Tom Hanks in this movie, I think he would have been really good. I just personally, I think Cruz would have been hilarious in Vienna. Just like they would have had to work in some scene where he did something athletic, like he played hacky sack with somebody. I think that Jesse's neuroses are a critical part of this.

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Ethan Hawke24,670 ftTraining Day, 2001, by 4,737 feet.

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