Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
76:08 – 86:54… at his phone right now thinking about it. No. Should I? Telephone number. No. Jesus. Oh. Tough. Midlift. Tough one. Billy needed his takes. God damn it. Apex Mountain. George Lucas? No. Probably after Empire and Raiders. As a director? No. We're talking everything. I would say it's after Empire and Raiders. Has anybody ever gotten to Apex Mountain and then just sat there forever? Yeah. You know? He never. There was never a time when people were like, no, I don't think so, George. We're not going to do that for you. Like he could do whatever he wanted after this movie. I mean, but wasn't. There were …
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He is definitely going for sure. Yeah. He probably went early to go talk to an assistant coach. He's like looking at his phone right now thinking about it. No. Should I? Telephone number. No. Jesus. Oh. Tough. Midlift. Tough one. Billy needed his takes. God damn it. Apex Mountain. George Lucas? No. Probably after Empire and Raiders. As a director? No. We're talking everything. I would say it's after Empire and Raiders. Has anybody ever gotten to Apex Mountain and then just sat there forever? Yeah. You know? He never. There was never a time when people were like, no, I don't think so, George. We're not going to do that for you. Like he could do whatever he wanted after this movie. I mean, but wasn't. There were projects that he was trying to get off the ground that he couldn't, right? Like what? Like wasn't that World War II Pilots movie? One that he wanted to do for a long time? He made it, right? Wasn't that Red Tails? Red Tails, yeah. Yeah. But it took like 20 years to get it made, right? No. He makes one movie and then he vanishes for a long time in terms of being behind the camera. As a director. As a director, it certainly is because the next three movies to the point of people, to the issue that people had with his directing style, the next three movies, the performances are wooden. They're not very well directed. It's just a fact. But. You mean the prequels? The prequels. Yeah. The next three. The next three. Empire and Jedi. Right. As like real people. Like not him. I'm going to say 81 range. Is this Apex? The third one's coming. Everyone's pumped about it. Raiders comes out. It's a fucking massive hit. And him and Spielberg have vanquished. And he's the biggest guy in it. Right. Yeah. I think it's right around that. And he has created and owns ILM. Skywalker Ranch is opening. He's doing Skywalker Sound. Like he's kind of like building his own Valhalla. He still has a decent beard. Hasn't like fucked his beard situation up yet. But you can almost. I mean like wine. He just gets more powerful and relevant as the deal. As Star Wars kind of gets. You could say it's selling to Disney for $4 billion. I was about to say you could say that. That's up there. The Galaxy. Apex Mountain. I was going to say there's some way to conceive of like the outer space sagas. Like you know I wouldn't say science fiction necessarily. But like. So sci-fi movies. Yeah. It's Apex Mountain. I have sci-fi movies. Galaxy movies. Apex Mountain. I don't know. Lore Starters. This starts. Fictional mythologies. Fictional mythologies. I mean I'm not talking about like books obviously. You know. All kinds of stuff. But as far as movies. That start incredible lore. You have The Terminator. You have. The Matrix has some great lore. But this. Has spawned a world that's like way bigger than anything else. Mark Hamill definitely. Mark Hamill definitely. Carrie Fisher. Yeah. One. Two or three for her. Like her best. Blues Brothers next year. And then Empire in 80. What she chooses to do with it afterwards is so strange though. Every non-Blues Brothers Star Wars movie she makes in the next eight years is like such a flop. Yeah. But again. I know she's on a lot of cocaine. I think cocaine was just running rampant. Yeah. I'm sure there was some choices that she might have gotten talked into at about 3.30 in the morning. I like their Lover Boy. Remember that one? Oh. Patrick Dempsey? Extra Anchovies. John. You've never saw that one? I've seen it. John Williams? It's almost impossible to say. Yeah. He just shatters it every time. Yeah. It's like Superman's three years later. Should we call John Williams Apex Routon? Yeah. Seriously. It's just his face. Dropping the from your title. Is it The Star Wars or The Facebook? Wow. I think it's Star Wars. It's probably Star Wars. Great question. But it's a good question though. I think it's Star Wars. Yeah. I prefer Star Wars to Facebook. Generally. James Earl Jones? I'm going to say Field of Dreams. Yeah. I think it can't be. That's when he became a beloved American treasure once and for all. Field of Dreams, Coming to America. Mufasa. Mufasa. It's somewhere early 90s. Late 80s, early 90s. He just became like the fucking coolest older actor. It seems like he's too important for a voice to be his Apex Mountain. Moonlight Grom! They'll come, Ray. Baseball is a part of us, Ray. People will come. They won't even know. They'll give you $5. Harrison Ford? No. We just said no. 20th Century Fox. Yes. Yeah. Their profits went from $39 million to $77 million. Oh, yeah. They doubled their stock rate or something. Wow. Nerds. Apex Mountain for nerds. I wouldn't say that in 1977, nerds had the most power they would ever have. I would say the nerds that got obsessed with this movie went on to take over. So. Yeah. Yeah. You also said the nerd sketch on SNL? Yeah, that's true. Nerds are just rounding into shape, finding out they had other people. Revenge of the Nerds. A nerd-centric movie comes out. Starting a nerd-assance. Any other Apex Mountain? What about movie sound effects? The Academy Awards creates a special award this year for Ben Burtt, who does all the droid sounds. You've got Darth Vader's breathing. You've got... My favorite sound of the movie is the sound of the TIE fighters flying, which is just terrifying every time you hear that screeching whisper sound. It's pretty memorable. This movie sounds awesome, even now. It does. That was one of the things with the Blu-ray. Yeah. Of course, lightsabers. Really, really good. I think we always say this with certain movies, but the widescreen TV, better soundbar, that whole era has just blown this movie out. Absentee Fathers? This or He Got Game? Yeah. He Got Game is up there. But Absentee Fathers, you don't know what your son is doing. He comes along, he's trying to fuck over you now. You don't even know. Absentee Dads? As a movie premise? Well, it's not a movie premise, but when you look at it now... No, I'm saying for... It's probably Empire, then. Shaquille O'Neal's Biological Didn't Bother? That's a good one, too. Absentee Dads. This is the greatest absentee dad story ever. Because by the time Vader comes back to Luke, Luke is now a first-round draft pick. And he wasn't before. When he was just a little dude on Tatooine, he didn't give a fuck about me. Yeah. Now I got the Force. Now I got another dad in my life who cares, right? Obi-Wan has come on. I got friends. I got all of this. Now you want me? No, that's not how it works. Cruise or Hanks? I have Cruise. But I think Hanks could have been a good haunt. Cruise for which part and what year of Cruise? Cruise for Luke around Taps. I was going to say 1982 Cruise. That's my answer. My God. Outsiders Cruise. Like Cruise has still had the baby back. Yeah. He's filming Losing It with Shelley Long and making Star Wars. What do you have? You know who I have. It's Cruise. It's got to be Cruise. But Hanks now as Obi-Wan would be interesting. I think Hanks there is like a, like when Hanks is like in the Volunteers, I could see him being Han Solo. Disagree. Okay. Hanks too tall. Cruise. Scorsese or Spielberg? Spielberg. Yeah. Spielberg. Agreed. What role would Philip Seymour Hoffman have played? I have any situation where he could say, Luke, how's the peeping? Maybe after that sexy. Ooh. Yeah. I had him as Vader's lead counsel. Yeah. He just would have dialed it up. Go to Little Hunger Games. Craig, you have a flex category. What is it? Can I quickly go back to Apex Mountain and ask, is this the Apex Mountain of Apex Mountains for a movie? Are there the most Apex Mountains in any movie ever for Star Wars? If you go through it, you have like half the actors, yes. It's probably George Lucas holistically. I think it's Titanic. Villains, music, the best weapon in movie history, secret hidden movie nuggets, sound effects, blockbuster franchises. Yeah. Craig is cooking. Is it the most Apex Mountains ever? It's the Apex Mountain of Apex Mountains. It's the Apex Mountain. Yeah. Craig is cooking right now. I'm surprised you didn't think of that. The Apex Mountain? Yeah. I'm Craig's Obi-Wan. Shown as Jack Sanders. Craig is actually a perfect Luke. Craig, you got a lot of Luke to you, brother. Yeah, I'm bad at acting. You're a twerp. I hope you're not related to this. No, we just work together. This message is brought to you by Apple Card, Shave Ice by the Beach, a trip to the State Fair, and a throwback flick at the local drive-in. They're more than just items to check off the summer bucket list. There are also opportunities to earn 2% daily cash back when you use your Apple Card with Apple Pay. Apply for Apple Card now. Use in minutes with Apple Pay. Subject to credit approval, Apple Card is issued by Goldman Sachs Bank USA, Salt Lake City Branch. Terms and more at applecard.com. This episode is brought to you by the Hulu original series, Chad Powers, starring our friend, Glenn Powell. This season, the walls are closing in on Chad's biggest secret, and with his future on the field hanging in the balance, he'll have to win back the one coach who wants nothing to do with him. Watch the new season of Chad Powers on September 3rd, streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus. For bundle subscribers, terms apply. All right, pick and nits. It's time. Yeah. I think I'm going to have the most fun with this because I don't really know what happens in the rest of the movies I barely remember. Yeah, because we're just going to sit here and be like, actually, Bill, in Ahsoka, that was explained. I'm going to try. All right. I'll just... I've already done too much. R2D2 and C3PO just randomly eject from their little pod thing that gets out. Uh-oh. Oh, shoot. Yes! Hey, we're doing rewatchables. Okay. With CR and Sean and Van and Craig. What's up, Craig? What's up? What's up, Ryan? Yeah, what's up, man? We're doing Star Wars. I've seen it. Any off-the-cuff takes? Luke was a dork. All right. Make the case. No friends. I don't think... I think that whole thing about picking up the power converters, no chance. You know, it looked like he immediately is annoying to Obi-Wan. It's like, dude, this might be your only friend.
109:57 – 112:46… Do any of you guys, any of you guys big video game people? I'm like, I'm not really, but Van, are you? Yeah, I like to play video games. Thinking back to the Apex Mountains, also, I love the Star Wars Battlefront video games. Oh, the Star Wars video game was incredible. I would say, would you say this is the best video games to come off of an original movie ever? Oh. So, Bond has some good video games, but they don't compare to the Star Wars games in totality. Star Wars games are awesome. There's so many. Because you have Jedi Fallen Order, you have Battlefront. Star Fox. You have the original arcade game …
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Bill. Craig. What a trick. Hold on. Craig's up. What do you got, Craig? Craig, is he Star Wars? Craig, Star Wars? 1977? I don't know. Do any of you guys, any of you guys big video game people? I'm like, I'm not really, but Van, are you? Yeah, I like to play video games. Thinking back to the Apex Mountains, also, I love the Star Wars Battlefront video games. Oh, the Star Wars video game was incredible. I would say, would you say this is the best video games to come off of an original movie ever? Oh. So, Bond has some good video games, but they don't compare to the Star Wars games in totality. Star Wars games are awesome. There's so many. Because you have Jedi Fallen Order, you have Battlefront. Star Fox. You have the original arcade game where you were in the TIE Fighter, right? Then you have the one for Super Nintendo, Super Star Wars. Like, probably, yeah. That came from a movie? Yeah. Probably, yeah. Anyway, good movie. Slow? Decent? Fast? I mean, yeah, it's a little slow. I mean, there's just, like, pace just picked up as we moved closer to now, and that's just what it is. The first 20 minutes is a little slow, but what I took away watching it again, I think I probably saw them when I was 15. Of course you like them, but now, I just appreciate them so more. When I was 15, I'm not thinking about, I mean, I'm comparing it to all the other movies I saw when I was 15, which, like, probably had better special effects or whatever. Looking back now, the originality is kind of staggering. I kind of can't fathom that level of originality working now. Like, it's just unbelievable that this is just, I know he had influences, but everybody does. Like, him just pulling this out of his ass, putting it on the screen, everything's brand new, the world building. Honestly, the closest thing I can think of is John Wick, and it's probably why John Wick worked, because it's, like, just new, and everybody could kind of, like, get into the world and like it. Yeah. And it's why it's the newest action franchise that has, like, spawned spin-offs and is still around and people like it. Like the Sinners. Yeah, maybe Sinners. Sinners took us in our world. Terminator did, too. Yeah. Yeah, last time, one of the few times where I felt the same way in a movie that I felt the first time I saw Star Wars was The Matrix. The Matrix was a time where I was like, wow. That's a good one. Like, they have fought this through completely. Yeah. You know, that sense of, like, I'm in great hands right now. But it's very rare. It's very rare to get that. I also think it's cool that Lucas... Avatar is a good one, yeah. I think it's cool that George Lucas was like, I just wanted to make a movie that was fun. He's like, if you have to take one word away from this movie, it's just fun. I know he's like, the movie's trying to say something, but I don't think the themes are... I don't know. I don't know if it's trying to say that much. It's interesting. It... Essentially, like, we talk about Star Wars and I talked to a friend about it. He goes, essentially, the movie is about, like, fathers and sons. It's very... It's not really... It's a complicated lore, but not a complicated story. Not a complicated movie, too. Yeah. It's like, this is a really... This is a great chase. Good versus evil. It's a feeling. Same with Indiana Jones. Like, I don't really know what Indiana Jones is about, but Indiana Jones...
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