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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

The Saint 1997

With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt · 5 April 2025 · 20,019 feet

The claim

78:45 – 84:08

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He put out the cigarette on the crew member's face. I'm going to say that reeks of bullshit. That's like Redfoot flicking the cigarette in McManus's face, unusual suspects. You don't do that. If you do that, someone gets killed. You can't do that. Come on. We're going to take one more break, and we're going to do Apex Mountain. This episode is brought to you by ChatGBT. Imagine you're running a professional sports team. Nice. Imagine the player contract report is due today. Not so nice. You've got performance notes from the coaching staff. You've got a salary spreadsheet from your analyst. Three rounds of back and forth emails with the agent, and all of it is scattered absolutely everywhere. Well, that's where ChatGBT work comes in. It's a new way to use ChatGBT for bigger multi-step projects. Give ChatGBT work access to your apps and files and can create real work documents. For instance, spreadsheets, slides, structured reports. You can bring all those to your next meeting when you don't need answers. You need help just getting the work across the finish line. ChatGBT work can move your projects forward while you stay in control. Put ChatGBT to work on your most ambitious ideas and projects. Get started. Just go to ChatGBT.com by selecting work mode available on plus and pro plans. Apex Mountain. Kilmer? No. Right? It's a no. I think it's 95 when he does Batman and Heat. I think Batman says Apex. When he's doing this, his reputation is in the gutter and people don't want to work with him. It's the year before this, I think. Two years before. Elizabeth Shue won an Oscar, so this can't be it. Disguised movies? Probably not because Mission Impossible. Mark had corrected it. Post-USSR Moscow movies? I need to see a complete list. Did Bourne ever go to Moscow? I feel like he went everywhere. Yeah, probably. It's up there. It's cool. The electronic music scene in the 90s. I'm going to say this is right around the apex. This was the one that really did it. And especially Orbital I had, Sneaker Pimps, definitely. Moby's really feeling it right around now. All these people. It's all happening for the whole scene. You know it's big because the Trediak's guys, his goons, are driving around blasting the electronic movie in their cars while they're looking for somebody. When you're looking for somebody, you turn the volume down when you get there. I can't even make it through a Trader Joe's parking lot with music on. And they're zipping around looking. It's cool. It's energetic. I have one more apex mountain. So if you have any, rip them off. No, no. Give me what you got. I feel like you're about to crow hop into this one. Yeah, this is going to hurt. What do you got? I don't know. What do you got? Cold fusion. Cold fusion. I think this was apex mountain and here's why. I did some research and here's what the research basically came with. This is where it came out. All right. This is from Wikipedia. Yeah. There is currently no accepted theoretical model that would allow cold fusion to occur. It's the entire premise of this movie, including the ending. And apparently it's just not a thing that can actually happen. So I have this, it's impossible. And because it's the opposite of hot fusion. You just do it at room temperature. I always look at cold fusion, Bill, like people look at hoverboards. Like when are we going to have that shit? When are the flying cars and where is free, clean energy for the entire world? That movie has been out for 30 years or something. There's still no cold fusion. I guess it never will be. It's not happening. Yeah. Cruz or Hanks? Obviously Cruz. And it kind of hurts to give this one to Cruz to begin with because he market corrected the saint. Scorsese or Spielberg? I have Scorsese because part of Kilmer's story when he was young, he would make audition videos for himself. And he made an entire short movie of him as Henry Hill that he got to Martin Scorsese because he wanted to play Henry Hill. And this is after he gave him to Kubrick to play Joker and Full Metal Jacket and also didn't get it. I think he was like completely obsessed with Scorsese. And I would love to see him do it. We'd have to do it probably in Rome instead of Moscow or maybe Milan or something. But I think it works. I think with all the reshoots and rewrites, probably moving some stuff to Rome would have been pretty easy. The Oxford cold fusion specialist is just now in Rome. Yeah. We'd have to upgrade Emma's pasta and meatballs too to something like... Then the pasta and meatballs makes sense. Yeah. It makes much more sense. There's a lot of harm and there's like some... Yes. Aaron Cheney on the side. What role would Philip Seymour Hoffman have played? Yeah. The cold fusion specialist is where I landed. The guy who has 12 hours to basically make it work. That guy with the glasses. He's wearing a Scotty J t-shirt that's too tight. That's the problem with this category. For some reason, I just think of Scotty J or I think of what's our guy's name and a talented Mr. Ripley. I always try to put those two guys in and those guys are so weird. Listen, my answer to this is I want to see him play the fucking saint. I want to see him do all those parts. Oh, wow. Let's really let Phil Seymour Hoffman cook and be the Russian guy and the artist. That's the artist part. That's what I want. I like it. Pick a nits.

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Val Kilmer24,170 ftTombstone, 1993, by 4,690 feet.
Elisabeth Shue21,310 ftAdventures in Babysitting, 1987, by 2,866 feet.
Roger Moore22,760 ftMoonraker, 1979, by 5,120 feet.

A grade for each call is not built yet. The board's answer is shown; whether the pod landed on it is a separate judgement, and it is not made here.