Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
65:30 – 74:21… came up with Goodfellas when he was filming this. He read a review of Wiseguy and got excited about Henry Hill and the rest of his history. So, there you go. Apex Mountain, Newman, no. Cruise, no. Scorsese, no. No. So, it's your triple, no Apex Mountain. Billiards, I think we're probably a yes for this because it's on ESPN2. I feel like it never got bigger for Billiards. Is there another pool movie that we're not thinking of here? Aside from this and The Hustler? Not really. There's scenes. Clapton, Comeback Clapton, I think this is about as good as it got for him after he'd gotten through all the drug stuff. …
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And then, Scorsese came up with Goodfellas when he was filming this. He read a review of Wiseguy and got excited about Henry Hill and the rest of his history. So, there you go. Apex Mountain, Newman, no. Cruise, no. Scorsese, no. No. So, it's your triple, no Apex Mountain. Billiards, I think we're probably a yes for this because it's on ESPN2. I feel like it never got bigger for Billiards. Is there another pool movie that we're not thinking of here? Aside from this and The Hustler? Not really. There's scenes. Clapton, Comeback Clapton, I think this is about as good as it got for him after he'd gotten through all the drug stuff. MTV Unplugged was the big one, right? What year was that? After this. Is that after this? Oh yeah, you're right. That was bigger. How does it compare CR to the anti-mask concert you just went to over the weekend that Clapton put on? Clapton and Van Morrison, how was that show? You know, they did comfortably know him. It was pretty riveting. Keith Bacredi? Yeah, I would say so. What about when he was inducted into the Pool Hall of Fame that I was reading about last night? Was Tom Cruise and Paul Newman there because that happened in this movie? The Balabushka, I feel like, never got more love and respect and probably excitement around it than this movie. Is this like a Katano sword or there are only like 50 of these in existence or something? Like, why couldn't they get a real one for the movie? I think they're really expensive. Okay. Yeah. Balabushka was known as the Stradivarius of the Q-maker. So that implies that maybe there were only a limited number. Yeah. I had a couple pool cues including the short pool cue because there was like, we had in the basement there was like one of those balls that came down. Bad angle. Bad angle one. And we used to call the little pool cue Hervé. After Hervé Villachez. That's good. Tattooing Fantasy Island and be like, break out Hervé. That doesn't take that reference at all. Yeah. It's dated three generations. Mary Elizabeth Master Antonio Apex Mountain and it's time to talk about her too. So I don't think so. It's probably Abyss or Perfect Storm but she is candidly a five alarm fire in this movie. I think it's this. I think if you leave this movie and you... She got a nomination for this. Coming out of this movie you'd think she's going to be one of the biggest stars we have on the female side. I think Robin Hood Prince of Thieves. She's made Marion. Oh yeah, that's right. That movie was a huge hit. That's pretty good. And that was after The Abyss, right? Yeah. She's so... At this time she's so beautiful. She's so striking. Like she's really so well cast as like just three or four or five years older than Cruise and that that edge that age really helps the part a lot but she's just I'm mesmerized by her. She really did not have like a massive career. It's weird. If you look at her IMDB by the 2000s 2010s it's like she's going on CSI and Law & Order and shows like that. I don't get it. I I had two theories on her. One is I think Madeline Stowe market corrected her. Okay. I think they battled and I think Madeline Stowe ended up winning. Two, I think sometimes bad name. Bad name for like a Hollywood movie star. It's a really hard name to say. You like you feel like you're mispronouncing. It's a lot of values. Even the last letters of her name I think it was a record for most most letters in somebody's name that got nominated for an Oscar and I really wonder what happens if her name is just like Mary Jenkins. Yeah. Could be. I don't know. Could be. Master Antonio is not easy. Yeah. I mean I hear what you're saying. I mean like I stumbled over it the first time I said it on this pod so I mean it's still If her name is Robin Wright does she have a better chance? I don't know. I think it's also during a time when the three the actress three name thing was happening you know so like Laura Sangiacomo Laura Sangiacomo Mary Stewart Masterson like there were a few of those that was like they all kind of got confused from time to time if you were a casual observer. This is the I think I think this is my favorite on-screen romance for Cruise you know some people are partial to Cruise and Zellweger some people like Cruise and Kelly McGillis I love these two like the way they're just like always like kind of slapping around at each other and playing grab ass but also like getting into fights like on a drop of a dime it's like very it's very like true to like young love that is kind of out of control a little bit I just always thought they had a great chemistry I still like the rich lady from Cocktail oh yeah whatever her name was he's doing yoga in the morning aerobics in the morning at 5.30 as he's trying to sleep enjoying her I'm going Cruise and Ving Rhames in the Mission Impossible movies that's a good one yeah they did have a good thing I really liked her I think this sometimes happens though especially in the 80s and 90s where you for the female actresses because there were so few good parts they would have their run for four years and then somebody else would grab it and then they would give it up and then somebody else would grab it and it was really hard to kind of stay relevant we didn't have Prestige TV back then either so she couldn't do like a mayor of Easttown yeah she might have had a family she has kids it might have been right around then but like you know she's works pretty steadily from 86 to 92 and then she just takes three years off completely and it's like right in the aftermath of Robin Hood and consenting adults and like big movies so it might have been a choice that she made too to just not work as much I did 10% of me did wonder if because she came out so hard against Cameron during the abyss whether that made her like a problem child or something might have seems like everybody comes out against Cameron after a movie comes out they're just like this guy worked me to the bone and threw me in the water a bunch you know she was the one that got the maddest she said she had a nervous breakdown on the set all this stuff and then when she got Robin Hood it was because somebody else dropped out the last minute they had to like quickly cast her so who knows one more Apex Mountain we've had a lot of debate we haven't really had a lot of consensus in this category I think we can all agree that it's Apex Mountain for sweater vests you don't see those a lot anymore but Jesus Christ a lot of guys wearing sweater vests Newman absolutely killing the sweater vest game in this movie and the outfit he's wearing when he's playing Amos and just getting shit faced throughout the day beautiful he's a beautiful man Chris maybe bring him back maybe it's time sweater vests yeah write that down picking knits I only have a couple what was Eddie doing before he meets Vincent so he's like running a club what's his job you think selling liquor yeah he's a wholesale liquor wholesaler but I think he's also like bootlegging some stuff too so he'll be like you can put this in an expensive bourbon bottle I'll sell it to you cheaper you can mark it up you know but you can call it old McDonald's seems like there's more going on than just that yeah what is yeah he's a hustler Julian's a little coked up maybe he's got a little finger in that pie actually he doesn't like drugs right he's like you guys all got it's anti-trug no alcohol you know goes back to the bible wine yeah I hate the forfeit in the tournament I hate it when he forfeits to the white guy with the durag I just hate it I don't understand it and I think if we're this is granted this is pick and nits this is the time to do it if we're really gonna like dive into what is a flaw with this movie it's basically trying to say he brings in Cruz in the first hour of the movie he's teaching Cruz here's what you gotta do to make money here's how to play the game these are all the things and sometimes you're gonna have to sacrifice your dignity for a couple games or a couple hours but always keep the end game in mind and then he gets reinvigorated by playing pool has this comeback and he like finds himself again after all these years after the hustler so then he's in this tournament and he thinks he beat Cruz but Cruz used the thing that he taught him fantastically and flipped it on him and gave him a cut of the money and Eddie's going nah that wasn't pure enough for me that's not what I'm about where was the shift where it's like this guy was literally the hustler to that's not what I'm about he never has that moment that explains it all of a sudden it's just like unseemly to him he gives the money back and he forfeits it never added up to me I'll try to rationalize it I think when he gets hustled by Amos
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