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The Karate Kid Part II 1986

With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt · 3 August 2026 · 22,458 feet

The claim

75:15 – 80:27

… Daniel-san. Oh, yeah. Not sneaky though. Is he sneaky suck or openly suck? Rose openly sucks too though. So it's all right. Yeah. Just wanted to mention him. Apex Mountain. Machio. I'm going to say yes. I think because coming out, this was bigger than one. This leads to, um, I don't know. He does Crossroads. He does Karate Kid 3. He does eventually my cousin, Benny. Like, I think the fact that Karate Kid 2 made money was good for him. I have a question for you. Yeah. Let's talk about Machio for a second. Let's say his parents or his managers or whoever jumped in and made a different move. And after Karate Kid …

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Uh, throwing this one in the Rose from Titanic award for character who's sneaky sucks. Who is it? I can't wait. I have a thought. It's Daniel-san. Oh, yeah. Not sneaky though. Is he sneaky suck or openly suck? Rose openly sucks too though. So it's all right. Yeah. Just wanted to mention him. Apex Mountain. Machio. I'm going to say yes. I think because coming out, this was bigger than one. This leads to, um, I don't know. He does Crossroads. He does Karate Kid 3. He does eventually my cousin, Benny. Like, I think the fact that Karate Kid 2 made money was good for him. I have a question for you. Yeah. Let's talk about Machio for a second. Let's say his parents or his managers or whoever jumped in and made a different move. And after Karate Kid 1 blows up, they're like, no, no, no. You're done. We're not doing any sequels. We're going to do your own thing. We carved. Is there a world where Machio could have become like John Cusack? Like, could he have had that career? Could he star in romantic comedy? Could he be holding up the radio for Diane Court? You see, could Machio have done that? It's hard to see him with not Daniel's son. But I just wonder if he ditched it after the first movie, if he could have had a different career. Really good thought exercise. I appreciate you considering me for this. Yeah. I think his face is too punchable. I think the secret to the trilogy was also the downfall for him as an actor. Punchable face. And the only time it really worked was my cousin Vinny, where he has to play. Oh, hey. Yeah. So he could basically do punchable face, hero guy, or like gregarious Italian guy. I don't know if there was a third pitch. I think he just had the fastball on the curve and that was it. Oh, look. I mean, listen, ultimately he agreed with you. He's like, let's just go back to LaRusso as an adult living in the Valley, running a car dealership. And it worked. And that series is great. I, it's, especially since how fast they made Karate Kid 2, to have the dexterity at that point, to be like, no, I'm out. I'm out. Like, I don't think it could have happened. And I think once he did the second one, it was over. Yeah. Like if you're Leo DiCaprio, it's a little different. You're like, yeah, I'm not doing sequels. I have a whole giant career. I don't know. You know, could Machio have been the Emilio Estevez part in Stakeout the next year with Richard Dreyfuss? I don't know. Probably not, right? No, I don't think so. Yeah. I mean, he's a talented actor, but like, you don't watch him and be like, God, he's an incredibly gifted actor. You just, he's a cute kid and he's good in the part. He's perfect for Daniel's son. He is Daniel's son. Marita Apex Mountain, I think was Karate Kid 1. Oscar nomination is legit. It's incredible. Apex Mountain for Hawaii pretending to be Okinawa. Yes. Apex Mountain for everybody else in the movie, basically. Yeah. I think every actor or actress in this movie, this is probably the best, most famous movie they were in. The twisty drumstick thingies, whatever those are. They were everywhere afterwards. You could buy those. People had those. Like they were souvenirs that you would get and they were fun to play with. Had a moment. Yeah. And then a homoerotic sensei student relationships. The answer is Karate Kid 3, which we'll be covering on the rewatchables for the end of 2025. By the way, the entire trilogy is on Netflix for the rest of the year. So you can bang out KK1, KK2, KK3, Cobra Kai, like whatever you want to do with the Karate Kid franchise, it's there. Dude, I was watching the end of Karate Kid 2 and I just let it kind of lapse into the next movie. Yeah. Next thing I knew, I'm a half an hour into Terry Silver's house, just hanging out, having champagne, loving life. Yeah. It's easy. Cruz or Hanks? This is a tough one because there's only one American part. By the way, how about our boy Cruz at the World Cup? Yeah. Holy shit. I thought he looked pretty good. He took out the cheek fillers. Is that right? His face looked more normal or whatever his face wasn't puffy like it was. He was at one point, I think he was with the Muppets and he looked like completely at home. Like he was one of them. I've never seen him look more comfortable than when he was with like the Muppets and Kermit. I'm like, you're the fucking man, Cruz. I'll go to war for you. I don't care how weird you are. Would you have bought Cruz as Sato? Yeah. I mean, he's going to have to be like in like taps, like ripped bicep, the outsiders, like kicking ass. And I would buy him as one of the, I mean, I wouldn't buy him as Japanese, but I'd buy him as like an American pupil of Sato's, maybe chosen. So maybe it's, yeah, because it's only Japanese parts. In the 80s, we could have done it. We can't do it now. But maybe it's Sato's like American chief of staff played by Tom Cruise. I think it's, I think it's, if it's a white guy, we're letting have the part. I think it's chosen. Unless you go back to the first one and he gets the Daniel Sun part. Yeah, you're right. It's chosen. You know? Good call. Hans Gruber scale villain ranking. Sato, when he's evil, is like legitimately like an eight and a half. I have written down starts as a nine, fades to a five. Hmm. It's like, he is pure evil to start. He's going to like bulldoze this people's town because Miyagi won't fight him. Like that's really, really evil. He killed all the fish. He's sending his henchmen to mess people up, but then he just goes soft.

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What the board says

This film IS their apex
Ralph Macchio22,470 ftThe highest point of the career. Carries 75 of 100 of this film.
Pat Morita19,820 ftThe highest point of the career. Carries 85 of 100 of this film.

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