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2001: A Space Odyssey 1968

With Bill Simmons, Steven Spielberg and Sean Fennessey · 1 June 2026 · 27,773 feet

The claim

122:32 – 125:18

… lot more. I mean, there's been books written about this movie. Yeah. Documentaries. There's been multiple Kubrick books. So, you can dive into it if you want. Apex Mountains. So, this is something we do where we try to figure out. Shots are laughing. Okay. But the actual apex of somebody's career was where they had the most juice possible. Where it was like, not only were they at the peak of their powers. Right. But they're at the point of their career where they could have done anything. Right. Right? That's like the ideal. I have lived to see you explain this to Steven Spielberg. This is incredible. I would …

The whole segment, as transcribed

Well, a lot in its era tends a lot in 67. Then, Ligeti's permission was not granted for this movie. And he didn't know his music was in there. And they had to settle it after a fact. Oh, wow. There's a lot more. I mean, there's been books written about this movie. Yeah. Documentaries. There's been multiple Kubrick books. So, you can dive into it if you want. Apex Mountains. So, this is something we do where we try to figure out. Shots are laughing. Okay. But the actual apex of somebody's career was where they had the most juice possible. Where it was like, not only were they at the peak of their powers. Right. But they're at the point of their career where they could have done anything. Right. Right? That's like the ideal. I have lived to see you explain this to Steven Spielberg. This is incredible. I would say, so, for you, you had multiple apexes. But in 82, when you have E.T. and Poltergeist, at that point, you could have probably gone into any studio on the planet and been like, I'd like to do this. And they would have been like, here's a check, Steven. That's an example. Right? So, for Kubrick. Yeah. Okay. I'm with you. I'm trailing behind you, but I am behind you still. So, for Kubrick, what was the moment where he had the most of everything going at the same time as a director? Was it this movie? Yeah. I would say this is the movie where he had it together. This is the movie that made Stanley famous, not just among critics and journalists and people that write about film, but this is the movie where the public discovered him. Would you put space movies for the apex of space movies? Well, this was certainly the big bang for every single movie about serious science fiction where science is being emphasized. Even Jurassic Park where science creates the credibility for an audience to believe that, yes, dinosaurs can come back. We have a category called Cruise or Hanks. You've worked with both. That's a great category. You know both of these guys. Yeah. I'd love them both. What's the question? If Cruise, you had to have Cruise or Hanks in this movie, who would you pick? Hanks. It has to be Hanks. Because he made Apollo 13. Right. He did. He's the astronaut guy. Sean can't believe I asked you this. It's wonderful. If he could be an astronaut, Tom, he would give it all up to be an astronaut. I think the answer is both. I think Bowman is Cruise. He could have had each of them. And I think Floyd is Hanks. Can I give you Cruise as the lead ape? How amazing that would have been? Cruise just like throwing himself into it. A very physical performer. Teaching himself how apes walk for like nine months to prepare for ten minutes. I think it would have been cool for any of the movie stars to...

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What the board says

This film IS their apex
Keir Dullea18,000 ftThe highest point of the career. Carries 55 of 100 of this film.
Their apex is elsewhere
Gary Lockwood18,470 ftModel Shop, 1969, by 290 feet.

A grade for each call is not built yet. The board's answer is shown; whether the pod landed on it is a separate judgement, and it is not made here.