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American Gangster 2007

With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan and Van Lathan · 2 September 2025 · 25,088 feet

The claim

56:17 – 59:04

… movie has to have a scene. Just one scene that lives on throughout the movie. At least one. That's the scene in this movie. I was going to do this for Apex Mountain, but we can do it here. Better Idris Elba on screen death. This is Stringer. This is Stringer with Omar and Brother Mazzon. It's Stringer. It's Stringer. It's Stringer, but I will say, uh, Denzel pulling the gun and putting it to his head, the facial expression he makes is the hardest thing I've ever seen in my life. Craig, you hadn't seen this movie before, right? No. What were your, what was your reaction to that moment? They never do …

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Fuck you going to do Frank. You going to shoot me. That's the scene in this movie that lives on. Every great gangster movie has to have a scene. Just one scene that lives on throughout the movie. At least one. That's the scene in this movie. I was going to do this for Apex Mountain, but we can do it here. Better Idris Elba on screen death. This is Stringer. This is Stringer with Omar and Brother Mazzon. It's Stringer. It's Stringer. It's Stringer, but I will say, uh, Denzel pulling the gun and putting it to his head, the facial expression he makes is the hardest thing I've ever seen in my life. Craig, you hadn't seen this movie before, right? No. What were your, what was your reaction to that moment? They never do this. There's never, I can't think of another movie where the guy who's like, what are you going to do? Shoot me in the street. And he actually shoots him. It never happens. It's amazing. Yeah, it was great. Yeah. String, String still gets me though. Yeah. When I do a while we watch String, just kind of. Get on with it. Yeah. Like Omar tells him and he's like, you know what? If that's where I'm at, just take me out. You know what I'll say though? Is, is, is Frank doesn't even get the satisfaction of letting Idris Elba's character know that he did it. You know what I mean? Like I would almost shoot him in the leg first and then like the heart so he can think about it as he's dying. You're a fucking insane person. When you shoot him in the head, he doesn't even know he died. I knew it was something behind those eyes there. Like, you're like, listen to him. The Bay Area. Dark Bay Area. He's like, what are you going to do? Shoot me? He technically doesn't even know he got shot. You know what I mean? Are we, are we positive Frank was going to shoot him before he said that? Do you know what I wonder? I don't think he expected him to actually give him the money. I think he was like, look at this motherfucker. I wonder if Frank would have shot him if his family wouldn't have been there. Cause it was to show them. I think he was making a fucking statement to these people. Cause they had just gotten to New York. Yeah. And so he goes out there. I know Frank was about his shit, but he goes out, he's talking to them. And then he's like, Oh, here's an opportunity to show them. Either this guy's going to pay me right now, or he's going to pay the price. And it just asked for it. Should have shot him in the heart. Yes. You need him. Craig wants more suffering. Craig wants to. You need him to know. Craig is like, I want the man that I killed to look me in my eyes as he dies. Crazy person. Yeah. Well, now we know. Right. Exactly. A pretty, a pretty enticing. Deanne waiter's resume from Idris Elba in this movie. Yeah. A lot of swagger. Richie gets his money back from Trupo. Enjoyed that. So this might be my number one. Oh, that's a Trupo. That's never come here unannounced. Yeah. This might be my number one. Frank freaks out at his own party. Yes. There's a piano assault. Somebody says, come on, man, that's your cousin. Yeah. Always enjoy that. I almost wish they would have delved more into Frank's discomfort with the trappings of being a big time drug dealer.

100:54 – 107:03

… Immobiliari no I think it was like I think as they were like what would we make Godfather Part 3 about International Immobiliari International Immobiliari Apex Mountain Denzel no Russell Crowe no Disjointed Gangster Movies I'm gonna say yes dope big sprawling what's it up against I don't know it's not that many of these like once upon a it's so high up the apex that you can't see anything else once upon a time in America yeah sure that movie goes on for five years but are you also like considering I don't know like triple nine like how how how low down are we going for Disjointed Gangster here's my answer …

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yeah it's pretty fascinating somewhere in my weird notes International Immobiliari no I think it was like I think as they were like what would we make Godfather Part 3 about International Immobiliari International Immobiliari Apex Mountain Denzel no Russell Crowe no Disjointed Gangster Movies I'm gonna say yes dope big sprawling what's it up against I don't know it's not that many of these like once upon a it's so high up the apex that you can't see anything else once upon a time in America yeah sure that movie goes on for five years but are you also like considering I don't know like triple nine like how how how low down are we going for Disjointed Gangster here's my answer is a Bronx Tale a Disjointed Gangster movie Carly Doe's Way Disjointed not Disjointed Carly Doe's Way I didn't put a lot of thought into that one that's okay Ridley Scott no no John Ortiz one of my favorite performances yeah it's like he's just coming off by Ambie Vice Hawks not yet coming yeah Harlem movies not to me what do you have so I mean Harlem Nights Harlem Nights one of my Harlem Nights is not a great movie it's just it's got great people in it just be careful you're coming off a little bit like a US attorney right now come on yeah Eddie Murphy never directed again after that movie I mean the reality is that you're the inroads that you've made after the Sinners pod like we can't even really talk about like what you did but you could give it all back right now you don't want to do that I didn't say it was an entertaining movie I wouldn't say it's like a it's not a better made movie than this my favorite movie of all time takes place in Harlem that's Mo' Better Blues and so I would say that Mo' Better Blues is better than American Gangsta the golden triangle in a movie or TV show the answer is the two part episode of Miami Vice with Edward James being reunited with his wife one of my favorite do you remember that of course I do they're at an outdoor bar Tubbs and Castillo played by Edward James Olmos and he talks to Ty and the waiter and Tubbs goes Captain I didn't know you spoke Ty and Castillo's like the least fun friendly guy ever you've given all of the Sinners goodwill back with golden triangle yeah with that that oh you was that did you do Tubbs or Crocs you just did Tubbs I did Tubbs so you're back at zero that's how Tubbs talked he was about a lot of energy is it watch the scene I bet I nailed it okay I will Captain I didn't know you spoke Ty man you did it again yeah watch it it's a social media clip I nailed it Josh Berlin oh fuck no no way although 2007 is 2007 perhaps he's Apex Mountain he's no country in this the lady who played Denzel's wife I'm gonna say yes yeah yeah that's definitely hers yeah you think this is no it's not horrible impersonations of Ali Frazier Will Chamberlain yeah 1960s and 70s athletes being terribly portrayed all right Cruiser Hanks oh no I got I got another Apex Mountain I gotta ask you guys what is it dope kingpin biopics when I looked at it it's not as many as you think yeah it's really like blow right Tony Montana that he wasn't real oh so like blow paid in full and then this are the three that stand out I looked around for other ones like actually like drug kingpin biopics so much of it is TV now so yeah the guy that would have been a good hottest take we needed more drug kingpins to make biopics of there were so many of them we were too late and like a lot of the guys they show up in this movie and we've talked about them we've talked about Nikki Barnes we've talked about all of these other people they pop up in different things but they're kind of hard to make they all end up the same way the guy fucking goes to jail like they all end up in the same fucking way they got him eventually yeah captain I didn't know you spoke Ty there you go is that what you wanted man there you go right there is that sanitized hey captain I didn't know you spoke Ty captain you speak Ty Cruz or Hanks I have Cruz as Richie really yeah I thought this was such an obvious Hank's part as Richie I think Cruz would be like I am trying to get through night school and he would go to night school in real life to try you know like and I could see him being like I'm a fake nervous about public speaking and then at the end gives like his great summation I wish we had a little bit more in court stuff with Richie it was pretty cool no I don't see I don't see Cruz as a 1971 New York detective I don't know I just would feel like it was Tom Cruise the whole time yeah like he was playing house Woody you're the tiebreaker man I have Cruz as Frank I want to see it I want to see Cruz that's alpaca I want to see Cruz I want to see I want to see Cruz play Frank and I don't want to I don't want to I just want him to make the movie and not even address it like and the thing you know that Frank Lewis whatever so who's winning here Hanks it's it's fucking Hanks as Richie we're talking about did you pick Hanks Hanks as Richie yeah okay so Hanks I have Hanks as Richie as well Scorsese or Spielberg Scorsese Scorsese yeah what role would Philip Seymour Hoffman have played Trupo I think Trupo yeah although you know what Philip Seymour Hoffman as Richie is an interesting that's actually really interesting pretty interesting the stick man part would have been tough kind of I would have I would have paid to see it you know

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Denzel Washington25,100 ftTraining Day, 2001, by 4,907 feet.
Russell Crowe26,190 ftGladiator, 2000, by 6,630 feet.
Josh Brolin24,560 ftAvengers: Infinity War, 2018, by 6,302 feet.
Chiwetel Ejiofor23,560 ft12 Years a Slave, 2013, by 5,504 feet.
Cuba Gooding Jr.22,500 ftJerry Maguire, 1996, by 4,676 feet.
Idris Elba23,740 ftBeast, 2022, by 6,080 feet.
Carla Gugino20,070 ftThe Mighty Macs, 2011, by 2,428 feet.

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