Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
93:38 – 99:19… And they put it on there. Still crazy after all these years of them. You mentioned all the Debbie Reynolds stuff, and we did everything else for that. So Apex Mountain is a category we talk about when somebody had the most juice they were ever going to have in their career. Oh, wow. And I actually think Beatty, this is a yes for him. Yeah. Because this movie, he owned a lot of the back end of it. He put a lot of time into it. It's a huge success. And I just think he can do whatever he wants after this. Not that he couldn't have before, but this is the best example of that. This sets up Reds. This sets up …
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Paul Simon did write a title song called Have a Good Time. No. That Beatty said no. So we scrapped it. Have a good time. And they put it on there. Still crazy after all these years of them. You mentioned all the Debbie Reynolds stuff, and we did everything else for that. So Apex Mountain is a category we talk about when somebody had the most juice they were ever going to have in their career. Oh, wow. And I actually think Beatty, this is a yes for him. Yeah. Because this movie, he owned a lot of the back end of it. He put a lot of time into it. It's a huge success. And I just think he can do whatever he wants after this. Not that he couldn't have before, but this is the best example of that. This sets up Reds. This sets up everything he wants to be. It all. It all, for sure. But is he even higher on the mountain at Heaven Can Wait or at Reds? I don't know. Like, after Heaven Can Wait or after Reds, has he ascended even further? Maybe it's Heaven Can Wait. I don't know. It's a really good point. Is it Heaven Can Wait? How many years after this movie is Heaven Can Wait? Three years. And in between is? He's turning down stuff. He was... What is the fortune before or after this? He's producing, yeah. Yeah. The most interesting one he turned down was Hardcore with Paul Schrader, a movie we've done on the rewatchables. Turn it off! Turn it off! We've done that one. I don't know. I can't see Warren Beatty. He didn't want to have a daughter. That's why he turned it down. Oh, wow. Oh, interesting. He's like, I'm too young and handsome to have a daughter, so can it be my wife goes to Newport and they're like, nah, that's not... No, no. It's got to be a teenage daughter. Yeah, so he... Yeah. He has Shampoo and the Fortune in 75 and then Heaven Can Wait in 78 and Reds in 81. For some reason, I feel by the time of Heaven Can Wait, Beatty is a little less like feral Beatty, you know, where he's just like in the culture. Heaven Can Wait's kind of like a, you know... He's a little more establishment. ...like a nice pass, a nice romantic comedy turn. But he doesn't have his teeth in it the way he does in Shampoo. I think it's this. I agree. The more I think about it. I agree. Julie Christie, obviously not, because she did Darling and Dr. Zhivago in the same year. Which is like... Pretty good. ...Hall of Fame, Apex Mountain year. Pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like one of the biggest movies of the 60s and a movie where she won an Oscar. You're not topping that. Goldie Hawn, no. Robert Towne? This is a pretty nice run for him. It's got Chinatown in this, back to back. Yes. I'm going to say yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have yes. Jack Warden, no. It's somewhere in the late 70s. Old school Hollywood scenery in a famous Hollywood movie. It's in play. Triumph Motorcycles as a character in a movie, definitely. Definitely. And then late 60s party scenes. Trying to think of a better one. This was the most sprawling, for sure. I'm going to say no on party scenes in general. Okay. Not just because Cameron... What about the Peter Sellers movie, The Party? The answer for... Oh, yes. It's about a party. Good call. Party scenes all the time. Apex Mountain. I'm not just saying that because he's here. Project X. I'm not even going to look at him. Yeah, Project X. No, it's... Number one. Russell Hammond in Topeka, Kansas. Yeah. Yeah. Golden God. You're just not getting a better party scene now. Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys. I want to see the... I'm intentionally not looking at him. Do you think that was a good party? Which one? The Topeka party? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Seemed like a good party. Yeah. Everybody's having a good time. That's what happened in the 70s. He's participating with them. Yeah. It's like he's one of them. He's there with like Aaron when the snake gets eaten. Or the mouse gets eaten by the snake. Next category. And it's the 1984 thing, you know? When he says like in 11 years, it's going to be 1984. Think about that. Think about that. This next category we have anyway, but this will be really fun with you here. Cruz or Hanks for the lead part? Who's winning the career total? Is Hanks ahead? There's only one rational answer. Hanks is currently ahead. With Cameron here, there's only one rational answer. I think it's definitely Cruz. It's the role. I don't know if Cruz ever would have played. Although he did do Eyes Wide Shut. So maybe all bets are off with Cruz. Frank T.J. Mackey is the closest. Oh. Yeah. Or this collision between like I'm a sexual god and all this vulnerability. It's definitely Cruz. It's definitely Cruz. Yeah. I think he could have done it. Hanks trying is funny. That would be amusing. That's a different comedy. It would be a totally different flavor. I don't know if he could pull up the haircut. His hair is like mine. It just goes up. I don't know if I want to see the hair dryer stuck in his pants. You know? I don't know. Scorsese or Spielberg to direct? Scorsese. I agree. I had that too. What role would Philip Seymour Hoffman have played? Leicester. Leicester. Had that as well. That's a dream to think about. That's one of the great Philip Seymour Hoffman stories is his story. You had him for two days? Yeah. Well, no. I think. And he was sick? Or you had him for a week? We had him for a week. Yeah. And he was sick most of the time. Yeah. That's why he's like a little red in the face and stuff and was like kind of coughing and his energy was low but completely brought it. Did you know as you're filming it? Like this is like a legendary Philip Seymour Hoffman. Did you know you were changing my life when you were making those scenes in that movie? I kind of did because it was the first scene we filmed and he was on the street with Patrick Fugate and they were doing this scene where I was walking with the real Lester Banks and so I was watching him do the very thing that I had done with Lester and I was listening
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