Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
70:51 – 80:20… a bar this weekend. Guys, I have a confession. I own that painting. You bought that with your fake purple hearts? Yeah. And then we covered everything else. Apex Mountain. Wait, can I just add a couple of quick things for categories that I forgot? One is, I think, things that age the best. Bradley Cooper shooting Vince Vaughn in the ass with birdshot approximately eight months before Dick Cheney shoots somebody in the face in a similar environment. Yeah. Good one. The other two. Did we even bring up Rebecca De Mornay and Dwight Yocum for Dion Waiters? Yeah, I was saying that's one of the most rewatchable …
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It is not true that the painting given to Jeremy by Todd was kept by Vince Vaughn after filming. Just in case that comes up at a bar this weekend. Guys, I have a confession. I own that painting. You bought that with your fake purple hearts? Yeah. And then we covered everything else. Apex Mountain. Wait, can I just add a couple of quick things for categories that I forgot? One is, I think, things that age the best. Bradley Cooper shooting Vince Vaughn in the ass with birdshot approximately eight months before Dick Cheney shoots somebody in the face in a similar environment. Yeah. Good one. The other two. Did we even bring up Rebecca De Mornay and Dwight Yocum for Dion Waiters? Yeah, I was saying that's one of the most rewatchable scenes. Oh, Rebecca. That's a good Dion Waiters. But for Dion Waiters. Yeah, we should have. They're both in contention. That's pretty high up there. De Mornay. I don't understand how De Mornay doesn't have this insane comedy career after this. She's so funny. She's funny. I know. That's weird. Shut your mouth when you're talking to me. I really like her. I think she's a good actress, and I would love to know the real story. I wonder if it's like a Kathleen Turner thing where she turned off a lot of people or something. Maybe shortly after this, she's one of the stars of John from Cincinnati, which doesn't go anywhere. So she should have had like, she really should have had a second act. Also, for the 80s kids, an absolute all-time OG, Pantheon, Mount Rushmore, you name it. Risky business. All time. Way up there. Agreed. You've made Chris and I very uncomfortable. No, not at all. I'm just saying, I'm older than you guys. Yeah. For the 80s kids, that Risky Business was a big movie, and that was like Cruz's breakout movie, and that character, Lana the Hooker, like that character was a big- Can I ask you, can we just, I don't mean to digress here, but I can't get this out of my mind. Yeah. What is a morally acceptable situation to crash a wedding? Morally acceptable? What are the rules? Like, you're not allowed to lie about your identity. Okay. And if you're just going to party, not to like, you know, seduce people under false pretenses, is it acceptable? Yeah, but the whole point of a wedding is to meet somebody. So I read in this movie, they had a real wedding planner who came in as a consultant for the movie, and the woman was asked about this phenomenon of wedding crashing, and she said, it's actually really hard to balance and to manage because in some cases, you know, the bride will see somebody that they don't recognize, and then they'll say to the wedding planner, like, who is that? Get that person out of here. Right. But there was one instance where a bride said, I don't know who that person is, and it turned out that that person was the groom's uncle, and the person was like, hugely offended, and it was a huge scandal when they tried to eject him from the wedding. And so I think it's just one of those things where if you just lay low and just get the free drinks and just strike up a good conversation with cool people, you can kind of get away with it. Anytime you're trying to do anything transactional, you've crossed the line. Well, you are, so it depends how big the wedding is. Well, that's also the thing about what these guys do is that they don't just go to the wedding. They make themselves these, they cut the cake. Yeah, they put their toast in the center of everything. Which is, but at the same time, I'm trying to think of like, if Vince Vaughn showed up to my wedding, I would be elated, obviously. If a stranger showed up to my wedding and tried to make a speech and like cut the cake, I would have to be pretty hammered to be like, this is great. What a classic moment. Yes. You'd usually just be annoyed. You'd be like, who's this six foot five goon who just took over my friend's wedding? I never would have gone to during the height of my wedding from 94 to 03. I never would have been at a wedding and been suspicious of anyone there. I don't think I ever have been. And be like, who's this guy? He says he's Bob's cousin. I don't know. Yeah. With something about him. I mean, in Massachusetts, if you were crashing a wedding, you'd have the Sully Murph guys who'd be like, it'd be pretty obvious they didn't belong. They would be, they would not have the right outfits on and things like that. But the bigger the wedding, I would say. They're wearing like Robert Parrish t-shirts. They clearly just wandered in from somewhere else. But I think the bigger the wedding, the easier it would be. For sure. If it's like a 300 person wedding. Yeah. And that's the thing. They're going through the papers. I was just curious. Yeah. All right. Apex Mountain? Yeah. Apex Mountain. Owen Wilson. No. What is this Apex Mountain? I have a controversial opinion about this. Let's hear it. I think it might be Marley and Me. I think it might be Zissou. Life Aquatic. Yeah. No. That's ludicrous. Interesting. Ludicrous. Bill doesn't like Wes Anderson. That's an interesting take. Apex is just like. I'm going to say yes. He's never been more famous than after this movie. He's never probably had more movie options after this movie. Isn't he more famous? Was Zoolander bigger than this? Not quite. I don't think so. I think this is probably his biggest movie. You're right. Apex Mountain. You're right. R-rated comedy boom. He's in the middle of it. Yes. He's in Cars. Oh, sure. Cars. What year was Cars? Oh, six. Oh, six. You're right. Sets up cars. It's Owen Wilson's Apex. I think it is. I don't know what Vince Vaughn's Apex was. There was a, there's like a, there's like an eight page feature on him in New York Magazine in 2005 when this movie comes out. Like the, he was, he was really. It felt like it was, this was his, I'm here to stay. I'm an A plus list guy and I've done really good things in a good career. I don't know what Vince Vaughn's Apex was and you'd almost say it was Swingers. I think you could make the case that it's actually the breakup. Really? Because he's dating Aniston. He's dating Aniston. He's co-starring opposite her. It's after Wedding Crashers. He's back. He's officially back. After Red Pit. It's like, it's post old school. It's post Wedding Crashers. And the breakup was a big hit. And. The problem is it wasn't a good movie. You could also tell that he had a lot of pull because the guy he plays in the breakup is like, I like the Blackhawks and hanging out in Chicago. He's basically playing himself. Yeah. And that's like real power, you know? And that was, that, that was real success. Can I tweak here? Sure. Can it be when they were filming the breakup? This is Apex Vaughn? Okay. Yeah. He's on us weekly every week with Aniston. Are they or aren't they? And it's after. I think that was it. Rachel McAdams. I would say Mean Girls, The Notebook, and then this. By the end of this, yes. I think this was our Apex. I don't think she's ever been more famous. She did a pretty good movie that's been completely forgotten a time immediately after this. Do you know what it was? What? It's called Red Eye. Oh, yeah. West Craven Thriller. I liked Red Eye. Killian Murphy. Killian Murphy. Yeah. And I wish she had more movies like that, too. This probably was. She made, she made a lot of interesting choices, right? She made like teen comedy, big time romance, bro comedy, thriller. And then the movie right after that is The Family Stone, which is like family dramedy. Mm-hmm. And that's a pretty amazing first five. Yeah. Five movies that people pretty like pretty much. Did we like The Family Stone? That's why like she came along. Yeah, The Family Stone's pretty good. She came along and it's like she's supposed to have Julia Roberts' career. Yeah. Like she should have had just kept doing those movies over and over again. And instead, she's kind of like, I mean, she winds up on like something like True Detective, which is where movie stars are now. Yeah, that's true. Nobody else in the movie worthy of an Apex Mountain. Not walking. Unless you want to go David Dobkin. Yeah. I mean, he's actually had a successful career, but this is his biggest hit. This is a good category. Who would have been better in this movie? Danny Trejo, Steve Buscemi, or Michael K. Williams? I mean, honestly, you could go all three. I'm going Buscemi for this one. Buscemi feels very Buscemi-esque. Does he take Walken's part? He could have played the priest. That would be good. That's good. Mark Ruffalo, they knew overacting word. Obviously, the over-the-top gay brother. Yeah. That guy was really going for it. Who's the guy who plays Zach's friend? There's a reason we haven't seen him again. Not- I don't know who that is. Not Trapster, but the guy who plays football with him, who's like, crab cakes and football. Oh, yeah. That guy's- He's really going for it with his four lines. Yeah. And he gets screamed on by Cooper. Yeah. He's the one who's driving after Cooper's killed a girl in his convertible. He's the one who goes to pick up Bradley Cooper and deposes the body of the woods. Why is he staying at that house? It's unclear. It's unclear. Picking nets? Yeah. I mean, it's an absurd comedy. I don't- Timeline-wise, can I just get one thing straight? So, the wedding, the first lodge family wedding or the first, you know, rich person's wedding that they go to. And then that wedding is during the day. And then they get on a boat to go to the house. That's the same day. And then they play football that after. Like, was the wedding at like 11 in the morning? Yeah. There was some- This is a really good question. There's some continuity errors. It always bothered me. Because those guys, their wings spread at night. They accelerate at night when they're like, okay, the party is starting. The drinking is starting. But this is a daytime wedding. That's a lot of variables to have in play for guys who apparently adhere to these rules of wedding crashing. So, I'm just kind of wondering. If anyone out there could figure out the time continuity of this movie, email us at the ringer, the mailbag at the ringer.com. This is a very good call. That's an issue. The fact that they just randomly invite these two dudes to this pretty intimate family gathering right after the marriage is weird, that they don't have more questions. He's a government official. Like, he would have like some checks and they would be like a secret service person. Well, and then that's the other part. Yeah. This guy was secretary of treasury. Or like, sure, you can come. Let us just run your names really fast. So, this is Steve Mnuchin, right? That's who he plays. In real life, Steve Mnuchin. Just picture this movie with Mnuchin in the walk and roll. I hate nitpicking for dumb comedies, but I have a lot of problems with the best man showing up late to the wedding and that kind of stuff.
84:43 – 87:30… You play the motorboat? You motorboat son of a bitch. You old sailor, you. Where is she? She's still in the house? What is wrong with you? This is his apex mountain slash best movie. And it's a good, it's a lot of competition. It's a lot of competition. Like Wilson's good. Farrell's amazing. Like people are great in this movie. He, he is, he is a peak of his powers. Kudos to you, Vince Vaughn. That's it for the rewatchables. If you want to listen to other rewatchables episodes, go to our episode archive. We've done over 40 now, something like 45. It's a staggering amount and a lot of meat left on that …
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What were they like anyway? They look pretty good. Are they real? Are they built for speed or for comfort? What'd you do with them? Motorboat? You play the motorboat? You motorboat son of a bitch. You old sailor, you. Where is she? She's still in the house? What is wrong with you? This is his apex mountain slash best movie. And it's a good, it's a lot of competition. It's a lot of competition. Like Wilson's good. Farrell's amazing. Like people are great in this movie. He, he is, he is a peak of his powers. Kudos to you, Vince Vaughn. That's it for the rewatchables. If you want to listen to other rewatchables episodes, go to our episode archive. We've done over 40 now, something like 45. It's a staggering amount and a lot of meat left on that bone. Thanks to ZipRecruiter. Don't forget about them at ZipRecruiter.com slash BS. Thanks to TheRinger.com. And we're back next week on the rewatchables. With what? Yeah. What's next, Bill? What's next for us? Yeah. There might be a special treat next week. Wow. Yeah. What a tease. Until then. Mom! Me love!
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