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Basic Instinct 1992

With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan and Mallory Rubin · 14 April 2020 · 24,640 feet

The claim

3:40 – 6:29

… erotic thriller. I don't know. Mallory, we might have to wheel her out by the end of this podcast. I don't even know where to begin. This is an all-time apex mountain share in Stone performance. This is a movie that launches a thousand Skin and Max movies. This is peak Michael Douglas. This feels very early 90s to me. This was a controversial movie. Chris, first thing you think of when you think of this movie. This puts the cock in Hitchcock. Yeah, man. This movie was responsible for a lot of calluses. What can I say? A lot of calluses. No pun intended. It came at a very crucial point in my personal life. …

The whole segment, as transcribed

She likes to use her hands a lot. And myself. Basic instinct. An iconic erotic thriller. I don't know. Mallory, we might have to wheel her out by the end of this podcast. I don't even know where to begin. This is an all-time apex mountain share in Stone performance. This is a movie that launches a thousand Skin and Max movies. This is peak Michael Douglas. This feels very early 90s to me. This was a controversial movie. Chris, first thing you think of when you think of this movie. This puts the cock in Hitchcock. Yeah, man. This movie was responsible for a lot of calluses. What can I say? A lot of calluses. No pun intended. It came at a very crucial point in my personal life. 1992. Just a young buck out there in the streets of Philadelphia. Still trying to make sense of this crazy world. It's really topsy-turvy. And then Sharon Stone walks into my life. And I don't know if it's ever been the same since. Mallory? First thing I think of is putting the cross in Double Cross. And putting the uncross in it, too. You know? Really, actually, the first thing I think of is Michael Douglas' ass. To be totally honest with you. It was on a 70-inch TV or 50-inch TV or 30-inch TV. Whatever TV you have. It's still funny. It was hilarious in a movie theater. For the flex that Michael Douglas... This is... The whole movie's a flex for him. He's been a star for a while. He's an A-plus lister. He's on a really nice run. And then at some point here, he decides he's going to wear the V-neck shirt and the dance scene. Oh, my God. That that's going to be fine. And then just an iconic... I repeat, iconic walk to the bathroom with his balls subtly swaying and just his butt. And he'd clearly done some crunches, but not enough. I just don't know what he was thinking. I have to be honest. I would not have guessed that the word subtly would have been used even once during this podcast. So having it come up in the first five minutes... I think they probably crossed that off on the bulletin board. There's no way. All right. Some stuff to cover. And then we'll talk about why we love this movie so much. So the Sharon Stone thing. I saw... There's a great divorce movie called Irreconcilable Differences, which I'm sure Mallory has seen because all the CODs have seen all the divorce movies. Have you seen Irreconcilable Differences? I actually haven't. Yeah, it's never on. I'm not surprised. It's Ryan O'Neill and Shelley Long. Okay. He's like a struggling screenwriter. And they have Drew Barrymore as a kid.

90:42 – 95:16

… start smoking again. If I ever get to see you guys again, we can do that. Okay. If the pandemic ever ends, Chris will start cigarette smoking. Can we go to Apex Mountain? I think we've hit most of the other half-assed internet research. I thought it was interesting that he, that Esterhaus apparently wrote the script in 10 days. You can't tell, folks. Yeah. That's definitely the ending show. No outline either. Apex Mountain, Sharon Stone. Yes. It's the apex-iest Apex Mountain performance. Yeah. This is... When you stand on Apex Mountain and you look up, you see Catherine Trammell at Mountain. Absolutely. …

The whole segment, as transcribed

You're out of control, Shooter. If you just start calling him Shooter, he'll probably start smoking again. If I ever get to see you guys again, we can do that. Okay. If the pandemic ever ends, Chris will start cigarette smoking. Can we go to Apex Mountain? I think we've hit most of the other half-assed internet research. I thought it was interesting that he, that Esterhaus apparently wrote the script in 10 days. You can't tell, folks. Yeah. That's definitely the ending show. No outline either. Apex Mountain, Sharon Stone. Yes. It's the apex-iest Apex Mountain performance. Yeah. This is... When you stand on Apex Mountain and you look up, you see Catherine Trammell at Mountain. Absolutely. Absolutely. Bad Cunnilingus? I think this is Apex Mountain for ever being captured in a movie. Keep your eyes up, Michael. Keep them up. You mentioned pre-Silicon Valley, San Francisco. Just seems so innocent. Yeah. Who knows that the real estate's going to skyrocket by 25 times and we're going to have a massive homeless problem and everybody's just going to cram in there and all hell's going to break loose. Seems like a nice American city. Any other Apex Mountains? Roxy? V-neck sweaters? The deep V, though. It has to be specifically the deep V and it's definitely... It's an inverse of Apex Mountain. Apex Valley. The great thing about it is that he wears it to the nightclub, wears it the morning after to the beach and then when he meets Gus out on the Embarcadero or whatever, down on the pier, he's wearing a dress shirt underneath the V. So he's worn that sweater through a coke-addled nightclub sex-a-thon, then on a beach walk, and then he's just like, day to night, I'm going right back to work with this V-neck sweater. Yeah, I won't say that the film does a lot to endorse personal hygiene. That's a problem throughout the movie from the sheet scene onward. Is it Apex Mountain for rear scrotal hang-in swing shots? No way. Just getting a little glimpse. You got... What else do you have in the running for that? There's Will Smith and Wild Wild West. All stuff I've blocked out of my mind. Would you rather touch the Douglas' V-neck sweater after day three or Johnny Paz's sheets? You had to pick one. Well, we didn't get to see the sweater under the blacklight. Yeah, exactly. Maybe made of the same material. The V-neck... If Chris ever wore the V-neck sweater to work one day... Oh, my God. Again, happy to do it if I get to see you guys again. Picking knits. Oh, so many. We've mentioned most of them, though. Yeah, I've mentioned a lot. I still can't get over the cop pulling a gun on Michael Douglas when he's yelling at Nielsen. And that's just being like a way that they end conflicts in that department. Wild. Nobody is just like, hey, man, you don't have to pull your piece. It's just like, yeah, man, good thing you broke up that shoving match. Another gun-centric nitpick is that when they discover Nielsen's body, taking Nick's gun and sniffing it, even though that's clearly a Glock and not a .38 revolver, and they had just said that they thought it was a .38 revolver, it was very strange. More shoddy detective work from the SFPD in this movie. We already talked about the DNA testing. That's obviously like the biggest one in some ways. I have two major timeline issues that I would like to post to you guys. Okay? Our girl, Hazel Dopkins. We have to talk about this for a second. She killed her husband and her three kids. Okay? So she killed four people, including three children. This homicide, based on what we see on screen, occurred in 1956. Also, based on what we see on screen, she is released from jail in 1965 for killing four people, including three children. How is she out of jail that quickly for that crime? And then, almost as importantly, how does Gus, who would have been like two or three years old, consider this one of the formative memories of his life, learning about this case? I couldn't get it out of my head. You were a toddler. None of that makes any sense. What? I don't understand that. That's pretty weird.

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Sharon Stone25,500 ftCasino, 1995, by 4,959 feet.
Michael Douglas24,990 ftWall Street, 1987, by 5,327 feet.
Jeanne Tripplehorn18,970 ft'Til There Was You, 1997, by 904 feet.

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