Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
74:24 – 80:28… that's just fucking weird. And it's a classic deleted scenes are deleted for a reason. But if you want to watch another scene with Carl and Ty, there you go. Apex Mountain. Mike O'Keefe? I would say, I mean, it has to be, right? Because he's coming right off of The Great Santini. And he's starring in the funniest movie of the year. By the way, The Great Santini is a really good movie. Excellent movie. Robert Duvall. He's really good in it. And the basketball scene with him and Robert Duvall is the legendary scene in the movie. But he's really good in that movie. So, you know, it's like him and Tim Hutton in …
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And then there's a deleted scene on YouTube where Carl teaches Ty Webb how to hit a ball with Danny Caddyshack. And that's just fucking weird. And it's a classic deleted scenes are deleted for a reason. But if you want to watch another scene with Carl and Ty, there you go. Apex Mountain. Mike O'Keefe? I would say, I mean, it has to be, right? Because he's coming right off of The Great Santini. And he's starring in the funniest movie of the year. By the way, The Great Santini is a really good movie. Excellent movie. Robert Duvall. He's really good in it. And the basketball scene with him and Robert Duvall is the legendary scene in the movie. But he's really good in that movie. So, you know, it's like him and Tim Hutton in 1980 were like the two young actors to watch. And then all of a sudden Sean Penn and this whole class comes after them that eclipses them. Rodney Dangerfield at Apex Mountain? I would probably say more like mid-80s and back to school when he became a draw himself. He was the draw to those movies. So that was my answer as well. Back to School, which is a hilarious movie. Great movie. And he also has the Rodney Dangerfield comedy specials on HBO. And he's breaking dudes like Sam Kinison and Bill Maher and people that I'd never seen before until they were in those specials. So the combo of that, I would say yes. Ted Knight, it's funny. Career-wise, no. Because Mary Tyler Moore is his Apex Mountain. But I think retroactively, I think this became his legacy because who the hell watches Mary Tyler Moore? Nobody under 40 is going to watch that. So this is the kind of the thing that outlived him in a lot of ways. I just want to say, I love Too Close for Comfort. He's basically Judge Smales with two hot daughters in that movie. And just trying to foil all these guys coming over trying to date his hot daughters and him just being Judge Smales, basically. It's great. It was a good show. I don't, God, I probably haven't seen it in... It was on for like two years. Years. I mean, I remember that was a Jim J. Bullock show, right? Yeah. Yeah. Monroe. That's right. Chevy Chase, Apex Mountain. I'm going to say no. Did we give it to him for Fletch? I think we did. Yeah. Bill Murray, no. No, but it's so pure. Yeah. Everything he does in the movie. He shot the movie six days and everything he did in those six days is golden. Cindy Morgan, sadly, yes. I think something better could happen. Cocaine. Here's the case. Here's the case for cocaine. Okay. Nobody, nobody super famous had died yet. Nobody, people knew it was bad, but nobody really knew how bad. It led to big spurts of creativity for at least a little while before it quickly burned the person's brain and they were never the same. But that hadn't happened yet on the Caddyshack set. But it led to all of the disjointed crazy shit in this movie that would never happen now because you would have to be on drugs to come up with half of the things that happen in this movie. And it's probably all downhill right after this for cocaine where people probably within a year are like, hey, this stuff's bad. What are we doing? Got to say, I'm not sure I'm super comfortable identifying this as the apex of something that has killed millions of people. Well, it's not a rewatchables until I make you uncomfortable. I'm saying yes, apex mountain. I don't think it ever got better for cocaine. I think it's downhill from this moment on. I was feeling good about rolling with you through Caddyshack for the last hour. I felt like I wasn't getting uncomfortable. We talked about Lacey. There was nothing weird. And then you tried to put cocaine on a mountain. I don't know about that. Baby Ruth bars. I would say Goonies. Fair. Golf. Golf? The sport of golf? Let me give you other things that happened in 1980. Okay. Jack Nicholson. Jack Nicholson wins two majors. He wins the US Open and the PGA. Okay. Tom Watson beats him in the British. And the Masters is Seve Ballesteros, who everybody considers to be the next Jack Nicholson. It's like an awesome year of just famous people winning majors and fun tournaments. And at the same time, Caddyshack is happening. That's the case. Well, that's hard to argue. Greatest? What's Jack at the Open? Is that 86? Yeah, that's 86. The case here is that golf's in a great spot. Tiger Woods is born at this point. I think this might have been... Tiger Woods is born? Was he... What year was he born? I think this is like Tiger Woods on the Mike Douglas show. When did he go on the... See, if Tiger Woods was on the Mike Douglas show this year, then this is definitely... So Woods was born in December 30th, 1975. Okay. So he's on the Tiger... Oh, he was on at age two. It was a little earlier than that. Oh. Yeah. I'm still going to guess. I mean, yes, I guess. Give me a better golf here. Caddyshack, Nicholas winning two majors. Should we call House and Nathan to get an official ruling? They'll just agree with me. Okay. Um, picking nits. Why did Spalding throw up in Dr. Beeper's car? Like, what a dick move. Who does that? Just throw up in a bush. Who leans over a car hood and throws up in a car? Like, what a fucking asshole. I got the impression it was uncontrollable. That the urge overwhelmed him and he just needed somewhere to put his head. That was my take. Terrible job, man. Okay. Why was Lacey Underall walking the entire course for Judge Smales' first round that we saw? She's just like in the entourage. She's like, do you have anything better to do?
89:27 – 92:15… a personal favorite of mine. Do you think this movie created the word poontang? I have no idea. You tell me. You can make a case it did. I thought about Apex Mountain for poontang, but I thought you'd get uncomfortable. Appreciate you sparing me that one. So Rodney Dangerfield, what the fuck happened? How do I explain this to my kids? He does Caddyshack and Back to School, which are two icons. And then he made Ladybugs. Yeah, Ladybugs has not aged well, but let me tell you something. I have seen Ladybugs a lot. For my generation, Ladybugs was in the HBO Rotation Hall of Fame. It was on every goddamn day. …
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I'm very partial to the whole final hole sequence on Tin Cup, though, including the putt at the end. Okay. That's a personal favorite of mine. Do you think this movie created the word poontang? I have no idea. You tell me. You can make a case it did. I thought about Apex Mountain for poontang, but I thought you'd get uncomfortable. Appreciate you sparing me that one. So Rodney Dangerfield, what the fuck happened? How do I explain this to my kids? He does Caddyshack and Back to School, which are two icons. And then he made Ladybugs. Yeah, Ladybugs has not aged well, but let me tell you something. I have seen Ladybugs a lot. For my generation, Ladybugs was in the HBO Rotation Hall of Fame. It was on every goddamn day. And every kid my age was completely head over heels in love with Vanessa Shaw from Ladybugs. Interesting. Yeah. She was the Cindy Morgan of my generation in a lot of ways. I loved Rodney Dangerfield. He was in a couple of other things. I mean, he was really, really famous. There was an animated movie called Rover Dangerfield that was him. He was a big deal in the 80s. He was ever-present. Another unanswerable question. Is this a better movie if in the first scene, the gopher is in Maggie's car and then Carl the Gardener just blows both of them up? Better movie or worse movie? I can't support blowing Maggie up. That's just not. It's a movie. He's just uncalled for. She's a casualty. He's trying to kill the gopher and Maggie's an unexpected. Maybe she just goes to the hospital. Maybe she's gone for a couple months. Well, it's true. I guess I accidentally thought that the bishop had been murdered by the lightning. So, I guess maybe if it was a similar situation, that would be acceptable. She comes back later. She's got her arm in a sling. She's fine. You mentioned this earlier. Where does Michael O'Keefe rank among the great actor-athletes? Legend. Such a great swing. Like, really looks like he could have just gone to the tour. I'm personally offended he wasn't in Tin Cup. Yeah, he could have been good. Well, I mean, Tin Cup is perfectly cast. Costner and Don Johnson are perfect. There's some way to weave him in. He should have just been in all golf movies from that point on. But O'Keefe's run is iconic. So, Great Santini, you mentioned the basketball scene. Very memorable sports scene. Caddyshack. Then he's in Split Image in 82, where he plays in a... I think he's a gymnast in that movie. And then a few years later, he's in The Slugger's Wife as a baseball player. That's like six years. That's some of the best work ever. And in classic Atlanta sports fashion, that movie bombed. Oh, wow. Tough beat. I threw that in there just to save Rembrandt Brown was listening.
97:01 – 99:51… It's just, it's. You're trying to hurt me now. Is it Jackie Mason who replaces Rodney? That's really weird. I like that you downed me for the cocaine being on Apex Mountain. And yet, you just said you like Caddyshack, too. Which is, like, the meanest thing I think anyone's ever said. There are things about it I like. Jackie Mason is just reprehensible in that movie. He's so terrible. He's so, so awful. There was a story recently. Somebody wrote a story about Caddyshack, too. I read it on a, or I can't remember where I read it, maybe a month ago, talking about why that movie was such a giant failure. And …
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Which was an indefensible decision by him. It's not great. There are things I like about, too. I'm sorry. I know you hate it. There are some things I like about it. It's just, it's. You're trying to hurt me now. Is it Jackie Mason who replaces Rodney? That's really weird. I like that you downed me for the cocaine being on Apex Mountain. And yet, you just said you like Caddyshack, too. Which is, like, the meanest thing I think anyone's ever said. There are things about it I like. Jackie Mason is just reprehensible in that movie. He's so terrible. He's so, so awful. There was a story recently. Somebody wrote a story about Caddyshack, too. I read it on a, or I can't remember where I read it, maybe a month ago, talking about why that movie was such a giant failure. And apparently, Dangerfield was, they really wanted to be in it. And he just, they couldn't agree to a contract with him. They'd already agreed to give Chevy a crazy amount of money to be in, like, five minutes of it. And it just kind of fell apart from there. But it's really bad. There's great Robert Stack in Caddyshack, too. Stack really going for it post-airplane. But you're right. It's not good. I'm not going to defend it. I can't defend it. This was a fun time with comedies where they took people who nobody had seen in a comedy. Like, Ted Knight had been in Mary Tyler Moore, so it wasn't surprising. But there were, like, the Robert Stack. Leslie Nielsen was another one. And Leslie Nielsen was just, like, you know, the detective or the bad guy in a whole bunch of 70s things. And to see him in the naked gun and the TV series was unusual. All right. So I say Ted Knight. We, you know, we don't really do this. But I would almost want to see a poll on this. We might have to have the Rewatchables Twitter feed, as much as I hate Twitter. Have a Rewatchables Twitter feed. Who won the movie between Ted Knight, Bill Murray, Rodney Dangerfield, Chevy Chase? Harold Ramis. Yeah. Gosh, it's a tough one. Can you even do five people in a Twitter poll? I'd probably bump Chase, because I don't think anyone thinks Chevy Chase won Caddyshack. No, but he has, like, so many of the best lines from the movie. You know, it's, gosh, I don't know. Don't sell yourself short, Judge. You're a tremendous slouch. I mean, come on. My dad never liked you. Ty Webb is iconic. All right. Maybe we'll do that. Maybe we'll put the four. We'll put Knight, Dangerfield, Chase, and Murray. Who won the movie? I just love Ted Knight. Bill, a flute without holes is not a flute. A donut without a hole is a Danish. Don't forget that. That's Basho, the Japanese poet. Where's Craig? Craig, you snob. Get out here for a second. We're glad you like Caddyshack. Yeah. I'm not a snob. Craig. Craig, who won the movie?
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