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Sleeping with the Enemy 1991

With the Enemy’ With Bill Simmons and Van Lathan · 16 February 2021 · 20,641 feet

The claim

63:07 – 68:58

… could tell the water tanks, but they were really in the water. Yeah. So not a great shoot. And once again, kudos to me for buying those old premier magazines. Apex Mountain. Julia Roberts. So I think we gave, we said Pretty Woman was her Apex Mountain, but you could argue that making $175 million with this crappy movie. Yeah. You could argue maybe it was. Her movie career does get a little spotty after this. We move into the I Love Trouble. Pelican Breeze, probably the best one over the next five, six years until she gets, makes the comeback with My Best Friend's Wedding, all that stuff. Erin Brockovich. Yeah. …

The whole segment, as transcribed

We can't get a water tank for Julie there. But to that point, when you watch it, I'm like, I'm watching it. I'm like, yo, they really in the water. Yeah. I mean, I've watched a movie since I could tell the water tanks, but they were really in the water. Yeah. So not a great shoot. And once again, kudos to me for buying those old premier magazines. Apex Mountain. Julia Roberts. So I think we gave, we said Pretty Woman was her Apex Mountain, but you could argue that making $175 million with this crappy movie. Yeah. You could argue maybe it was. Her movie career does get a little spotty after this. We move into the I Love Trouble. Pelican Breeze, probably the best one over the next five, six years until she gets, makes the comeback with My Best Friend's Wedding, all that stuff. Erin Brockovich. Yeah. Hot Julia Roberts. This is her Apex. I think it's My Best Friend's Wedding. For Hot Julia Roberts. I think that's the best she ever looked. Interesting. Make the case. Like for me, there's, even when I saw My Best Friend's Wedding, right? And it's at that point, the hot young actress coming up is Cameron Diaz and they're, that's the kind of juxtaposition or whatever that they're doing, the comparison that they're doing. I'm thinking. That was like LeBron versus Zion. LeBron just put up the 40, 15, and 17. Yeah. I'm looking at Julia Roberts. That's like, that's Julia Roberts like closer to 30. She's like more of a woman. She's a little curvier. I'm like, okay. That's the first time I was really fucking with her like that. I still, I think she looks beautiful in that movie. Yeah. Some people like Mystic Pizza, Julia Roberts. Mystic Pizza is great too. Some people like Steel Magnolia's Julia Roberts. Yeah. I don't know who those some people are, but I'm sure they're out there. Crazier character, My Best Friend's Wedding, Julia Roberts, or The Husband in Sleeping with the Enemy? Yeah. It's close. It's close. Maybe those two should end up together. That should have been the third movie. They should just combine those. I've met my new husband. Because it's still some, it's a cute obsession, but that's an obsession movie. My Best Friend's Wedding. Oh, it's an obsession movie. She's a fucking maniac. Apex Mountain, fake Cape Cod houses. Absolutely. Patrick Bergen had this in Robin Hood, the second Robin Hood movie the same year. Yes. Kevin Anderson. Yes. From Hell movies. So to make the case, this movie did so well that it led to the next 30 years. Once this one worked, then we were really off. I think Fatal Attraction is probably Apex Mountain from Hell movies just because it was so good and was the best of all of them. It's the barometer. But you can make a case that started the From Hell era. Cedar Falls, Iowa? Can you think of a better Apex? No, I can't. I can't either. Although it's in my head for some reason, Cedar Falls, but I can't. I can't think. By the way, she didn't move. She didn't go far enough. I was not. No, go to Nebraska. Go to Nebraska. Go get more Western. Get farther. But her mom was there. How about this? Rent a house with a fence. You have all this money. You rent a house where it's like just the screen door can open at any time. Cedar Falls, Iowa seems very pleasant. It does. It seems very American. Americana. Yeah. I wonder if I could get service there. I'll check it out one day. I'm going to see. It could be a Rigger video. Rigger exclusive. Rigger that I'll go there and see, because you never know. No. Seemed cool, but I didn't see any of us there. The Yager haircut. This is clearly Apex Mountain for that. Picking nets. Okay. I got a couple of picking nets for you. I do too. I'm sure you have a couple as well. The entire boat trip, they don't know a storm's coming. It's like, oh, these weather reports. It's like, I'm pretty sure the weather reports know when there's a storm. Right. Yeah. There's no storm. Even in 1991, there's no storms out of nowhere. The boats, as we said before, they're all in the front of the boat, which I don't even go on boats and know that that's the one thing you're not supposed to do on a boat is all huddle on one side of it. Right. And then it's like, why are they sailing at night? What's fun about that? What's fun about a sailboat at nine o'clock at night? I've never heard of such. I would never accept an invitation. Hey, Bill, you want to sail at night? No. No, thank you. Right. I don't want to do that. So I just have a lot of questions. So a couple of things. Number one, about the boat, I have it written down. He goes, I don't know where this weather is coming from. He says that. I'm like, we know where the weather is coming from, dog. Like, we know where the weather is coming from. Like, a surprise storm, even if the storm was a surprise and they took the boat out at seven, you'd have known at six or 530 that you wouldn't be able to sail. Right. All right. Terrible job by that guy. Terrible job by that guy. But there's something else. So when she's at dinner with Mullet Hero, she still has the scar on her head from when she got hit by the guy. Why? She got hit by Patrick Bergen, right? Because he looks at it, he goes, oh, what's that? So that means that before that, that scar hasn't healed, right? And it still looked like there's like a blood thing. It's like a scab. That means that she got the entire house ready. She had all of this. So this entire thing then of her traveling. Happened in like 10 days. It happened. This was basically, couldn't have been more than two weeks. So Massachusetts to Iowa, that was a six-hour bus drive. That was a six-hour. That was a six-hour bus drive. And then for her to get all this stuff, to get the house fixed up, for her to meet this guy, all of this stuff. This had to have taken place in the time to where she would still have a scar on her head. And there's just too much story in there for that. It just doesn't make any sense to me. So there you go. Very fair points. Very fair. I also think the psychotic husband, who clearly has manufactured grudges against whoever, wouldn't he be madder at the boat captain? You've killed my wife. Why didn't you check the weather, you motherfucker?

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What the board says

This film IS their apex
Patrick Bergin18,990 ftThe highest point of the career. Carries 50 of 100 of this film.
Their apex is elsewhere
Julia Roberts26,360 ftPretty Woman, 1990, by 6,490 feet.

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