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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

Dazed and Confused 1993

With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan and Sean Fennessey · 2 October 2018 · 24,940 feet

The claim

55:15 – 58:49

… strange. Which song was it? There's two different He has two on it. Yeah. I think there's two Kiss songs. He has Stranglehold and Hey Baby. Those are the two. Apex Mountain you could argue there's zero Apex Mountain people unless you want to say Linklater but I don't think I think the second Before Sunrise movie was his Apex Mountain personally. Everyone else I mean unless you were going to say obviously Jason O. Jones this is his Apex Mountain I believe it's Jason O. Smith Jason O. Smith the lady who played Jodie Yeah, Michelle Burke man what happened? Michelle Burke Sean Andrews Sean Andrews who played …

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and every time I see the movie I immediately think of my experience with him which was very strange. Which song was it? There's two different He has two on it. Yeah. I think there's two Kiss songs. He has Stranglehold and Hey Baby. Those are the two. Apex Mountain you could argue there's zero Apex Mountain people unless you want to say Linklater but I don't think I think the second Before Sunrise movie was his Apex Mountain personally. Everyone else I mean unless you were going to say obviously Jason O. Jones this is his Apex Mountain I believe it's Jason O. Smith Jason O. Smith the lady who played Jodie Yeah, Michelle Burke man what happened? Michelle Burke Sean Andrews Sean Andrews who played Pickford I think Rory Cochran Yeah, I mean like a lot of the These are not like famous people No You don't think it's McConaughey's Apex obviously God no Right What about Wiley Wiggins? What's that? Yeah, it's Wiley Wiggins Anybody who's never really been seen again I think it's but that doesn't really count Usually we do Apex Mountain for bigger people What about Dina Martin who plays Siobhan? Never seen her either Swingers is her Apex Mountain Oh, she's in Swingers She's so good in Swingers That's right That's right I still have a crush on her Dina Martin if you're listening I still have a crush on you Trejo, Buscemi, or Michael K. Williams Who would have fit the best? You could have had a young Michael K. Williams as Mel As Mel Yeah What about I mean Trejo would have been fun hanging out at the Emporium He could have been there He knew Witterson So creepy Buscemi could have been one of the coaches Buscemi is like the offensive coordinator Yeah Yeah Reading the letter All right No more Mark Ruffalo They knew It is now The Saul Rubinick You wanna do it Chris? Sure I treated you like a son and you stabbed me in the heart If you missed the True Romance podcast we renamed the Mark Ruffalo category The Saul Rubinick Stabbed me in the heart category That's the first time Zach's gotten to hear that live Yeah, Zach wasn't here the last time Overacting? I guess Affleck? Jesus Even the devil Fuck it away What's the matter with you? It's fucking pitiful Fuck Fresh bit shit What the fuck are you looking at? Huh? Kick your fucking ass right now Damn it! I think it's Affleck It has to be It's gonna be my vote He really He really turns it up Nine notches when the paint goes on him I think that's a bit in the movie They're like God damn O'Banion just takes this stuff so seriously He's going for it Yeah Ben I don't blame him for it I think he played it correctly One of the most disturbing sounds in modern times is Ben Affleck squealing like a pig Yeah That's really upsetting He's very committed What's funny is that was a big 80s, 90s joke Mm-hmm And it's funny how movies will push a sense of humor thing but then just too many years go by and it dies Like if we did a squeal like a pig joke in the ringer office nobody under 30 would know what the hell was going on I always thought Why are you squealing like a pig? It's like a deliverance thing It's a deliverance thing Yeah It's the Ned Beatty Yeah Gets assaulted in a very bad way Yeah Accurate Do you think that Anthony Rapp and Adam Goldberg's characters are self-consciously trying to act like Woody Allen's 70s characters like with that Like their parodies of them? Yeah Like that's informing their character there? I don't think in 76 Woody had hit big yet in a way that he would have resonated with people in Texas I don't know if that's a note that Linklater gave but that's always how I interpreted Adam Goldberg's performance Right I was like he's just doing Woody Allen like this is Woody Allen Interesting I never thought about that Like the whole joke and I guess you're right about Anthony Rapp too

69:37 – 72:23

… in the saddle like that's what that record is I think 76 was like a top four music year it's probably pretty good think about like just a lot of people on Apex Mountain for whatever the music version of that is and also concerts were so important back then it was the only way you were seeing anything yeah there's also like no a ton of popular music that isn't even represented because it's meant to be Texas it's like there's no Stevie Wonder in this movie there was just so much happening in the world that was so good at that time yeah funk was huge then yeah I'm not positive you could play music and you I …

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in Texas three times that year so he must have researched that that's just a great time for that band I kind of understand why they're so obsessed with getting tickets yeah it's back in the saddle like that's what that record is I think 76 was like a top four music year it's probably pretty good think about like just a lot of people on Apex Mountain for whatever the music version of that is and also concerts were so important back then it was the only way you were seeing anything yeah there's also like no a ton of popular music that isn't even represented because it's meant to be Texas it's like there's no Stevie Wonder in this movie there was just so much happening in the world that was so good at that time yeah funk was huge then yeah I'm not positive you could play music and you I don't know if the Cars had cassettes yet I'm gonna I think that was like a late 70s yeah that was what he had imagined the ZZ Top Record would be played on right who won the movie our choices are Linklater McConaughey or Martha Washington because don't sleep on how much of a win she took in this Don Dawson yeah how could he have won the movie not over Wooderson oh you mean like within the narrative like the story of the film who won the movie it's gotta be it's gotta be Wooderson Chevy Chase won Fletch like that's easy that's like Harrison Ford won Indiana Jones I know yeah he could make a case Linklater won the movie because this launched a 25 year career yeah I think that this makes him more than a sort of experimental filmmaker who's emerging from that indie scene this makes him kind of like this two track filmmaker here's my case for McConaughey not winning the movie okay when I did the thing I did in the movie quotes in 01 I had this long paragraph in there where I took a shot at him where it was basically like then McConaughey and then we thought he was gonna be a big star and now he's just doing like a bad Wooderson impersonation rom-com it's like his career did crater there sure oh for sure early 2000s hence the McConaissance and then he had the McConaissance that was all about a renaissance Linklater I think has been one of the nine most important directors we've had he's high since 90 is this the first Linklater rewatchables yeah yes we've talked about doing sunrises sunrise or sunset before yeah no we talked about doing the the five hour trilogy just gets dark and just us crying the entire time yeah it's you guys and your wives that's what I want that's the podcast I want to listen to is you guys do all three of those movies with your wives that third one's a tough one you just kind of look at your wife on the way out like it's a war want a hug it's an interesting hang yeah yeah Linklater it's probably Linklater I mean every time he makes a movie even if it's not one of his best it's always interesting he's had such a great career yeah and this is a masterpiece Tarantino has it in his 10 best films of all time at least he did a couple years ago and I think that this is the movie that probably emerges with Pulp Fiction and I don't want to hear anything about Bruce Willis' girlfriend it emerges with Pulp Fiction

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Matthew McConaughey25,530 ftInterstellar, 2014, by 6,260 feet.
Renee Zellweger25,980 ftChicago, 2002, by 8,321 feet.
Ben Affleck24,240 ftArgo, 2012, by 6,587 feet.

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