Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
75:17 – 83:50… makes me miss function so much man it makes me just miss going out to a party not with no VIP section just a just a fucking dance floor and we going in yeah Apex Mountain Wesley Snipes yeah oh so I'm gonna I'm gonna make the case for yes because I think from this point on he can make any movie he wants the fact that this movie made money and was culturally relevant opened doors for him that I don't think were open before this movie and anything that happens to him after this movie I feel like happened because of this movie he's had bigger moments but not greater moments I think this is probably his signature …
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it just kind of brings it all together and they just jamming in that bitch man that shit was jamming man like it makes me miss function so much man it makes me just miss going out to a party not with no VIP section just a just a fucking dance floor and we going in yeah Apex Mountain Wesley Snipes yeah oh so I'm gonna I'm gonna make the case for yes because I think from this point on he can make any movie he wants the fact that this movie made money and was culturally relevant opened doors for him that I don't think were open before this movie and anything that happens to him after this movie I feel like happened because of this movie he's had bigger moments but not greater moments I think this is probably his signature performance yeah um Alan Payne the answer would be yes not sure he worked for a long time after this he worked for a long time but this was his signature but he had a movie he did a movie called Jason's Lyric that's a that's a classic yeah that's a good one he was in The Perfect Storm wasn't he in that joint so he like he worked for a long time after this he's been a working actor but nah this was his biggest deal Ice-T I'm gonna say no no Human Bullet Shields Human Bullet Shields yes oh I'd say so or would you say Heat Heat is Heat is one the Dead Zone is one but this is probably more recognizable would you have Logan I had a New Jack Swing as a as Apex Mountain what do we think Van it would be hard to give it to a movie I'm talking about the moment like you were talking about like Expect Mountain of like this is the height of what it is of the genre was this the height of the genre like for me in hindsight looking back I would say yes but like you lived through it so I would that's why I would throw it to you that's an interesting question because it it does mean that the genre got so big that they put it in a movie title so I yeah I get I get what you're talking about for sure because it got so big that it made it to Hollywood for sure yeah also also a throw a kind of a throw off to that is is this Apex Mountain for Guy no hell no you're gonna piss everybody off Logan relax listen I'm I already pissed people off I already pissed people off with the is Wesley Snipes a vampire wait a second are we sure it's not Apex Mountain for Guy it's not they get they get named in the movie they they introduce each member and then they perform in a movie that made 50 million dollars alright I want you guys to take I want you guys to just be gentle here tread easy we talking about Guy here we talking about let's chill we're talking about we're talking about Guy here I'm about to go back to Oakland and some auntie gonna kick my ass we're talking about Guy here the fact that they had a look the fact that Guy had a cameo in this movie it's a big cameo I love it it can't be the Apex Mountain for Guy no way Chris Rock's movie career oh yeah that's a fair yeah yeah I'm gonna say yes this is Pootie Tank and then people were like top 5 was great top 5 was fine it's cool this is the best he's ever been in a movie in my opinion top 5 was cool this is his most recognizable role he never really took off as a movie guy but this is this is his most recognizable role he had other things that we like head of state some stuff like that I was gonna say head of state was head of state Apex Mountain for him because you can make the argument you can make the case as a precursor to Barack Obama you can make the case that that was his that it was his Apex Mountain I mean am I right as a precursor to Barack Obama like head of state came out and then that made like 20 million people in America go I vote for a black guy that's hella wild box haircuts fresh friends come on what are we talking about is that that's first prince might be up there but this had a lot of high tops in it because he had the 91 playoffs right around the same time which might have been the apex for box haircuts in the NBA so just a combo I rocked a flat top until I held on I rocked a flat top until 94 and when I was going that summer I was going to the ninth grade my brother was like yo dude do yourself a favor cut that shit it's over it's over what about Mario Van Peebles speaking of box cuts I think Mario Van Peebles this was 100% his apex mouth even if you look back at his IMDB he's like directing TV episodes and there is no hint that he's going to make a 50 million dollar movie and after this he bought a lot of style like I saw every movie he made after this for about 8 years he did Posse he did Panther by the way he also did Ali he didn't do Ali Michael he didn't direct it he's in it no he didn't direct it he was in Ali he's in it he's in Ali he has a he's good in Ali he's great in Ali he has a fine career he has a fine career but this is probably his most also Mario Van Peebles when we talked about blaxploitation and the next step his dad was the architect of blaxploitation films Melvin Van Peebles yeah for sure and actually it was 20 years before this when he had his big ones and it was a boomerang great movie Bill Nunn Bill Nunn no it's gotta be Radio Raheem for sure Radio Raheem Judd Nelson no and we're not allowed to talk about Judd Nelson yet Color Me Bad I'm gonna say no because there's an entire 90210 episode built around them that's Apex Mountain also they had a number one record so that can't be yeah they were legit for a year and a half they were by the way they are good musicians yeah it's like they had they had dope music it's just they looked super fucking weird was is this is this Apex Mountain for zoot suits oh is it is it Apex Mountain for zoot suits or no or is was there another time what would be the winner if it wasn't this I don't know I never thought about it yeah some some 40s film I don't know like alright we're taking one more break and then we're gonna do Pickin' It's bonjour compadre it's the Priceline Negotiator how do I negotiate so many great travel deals my greatest gadget the Priceline app it's got hotel deals flight deals rental car deals all of those deals in a bundle deals game day deals concert trip deals no one deals more deals than Priceline hold your horses there's more the app lets you filter hotels by neighborhood vibe star level and amenities like pools and spas and beachfronts and wait I'm not done stop cutting me off alright Pickin' It's would Ice-T have really spent that much time saving Pookie day after day in the room with him like that's how he's gonna spend six months of his life he's a cop he has a job he's also a black man though you know what I mean before anything and he probably has empathy for Pookie in a general sense like I would say yeah but they're not related though he's just this random dude that he shot but he also so put yourself in a position of Scotty here so you have to look at Scotty like Scotty's mom Scotty's almost like Batman right so you know how you know how Batman has think about nobody cares as much about crime as Batman does we all live with crime you know Batman just can't stand crime Batman is crime crazy Batman is so crime crazy that Batman is like I'm gonna dig a cave in the bottom of my house and make gadgets to stop crime and the reason why he's like that is because a traumatic experience informs him and so when you look at Scotty Scotty's obsessed in the same way he's like a cop version of Batman he's obsessed in that same way so when he looks at the kid that he shot he probably thinks I have to make the same extra special effort with him it's consistent with the character is what I'm saying it's consistent with this guy who has this burning desire to rid his community of this he feels like he shot that kid and it led to his spiral down into being a crackhead and so he wants to kind of help him out of it I don't know if it's realistic but it's consistent with the character two pickiness for me and they're both related to Ice-T the one thing that I have from Ice-T is Ice-T going undercover
92:25 – 95:10… from The Breakfast Club if he became a narc and while you're watching this like when I saw this movie as a kid in the theater I then thought that this was Apex Mountain for undercover cops like this was as good as cops got in movies and when I would watch Serpico I was like it's not as good as Judd Nelson in New Jack City like when I would watch other cop movies going forward I didn't even know because I was a child so I thought this was the original article was Nick Peretti in New Jack City and I was like why is Pacino biting Nelson's style it's look this movie's 30 years old and the one of the many …
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cops going over the edge and uh he is essentially doing John Bender from The Breakfast Club if he became a narc and while you're watching this like when I saw this movie as a kid in the theater I then thought that this was Apex Mountain for undercover cops like this was as good as cops got in movies and when I would watch Serpico I was like it's not as good as Judd Nelson in New Jack City like when I would watch other cop movies going forward I didn't even know because I was a child so I thought this was the original article was Nick Peretti in New Jack City and I was like why is Pacino biting Nelson's style it's look this movie's 30 years old and the one of the many reasons it's endured is everyone has the same question what the fuck is Judd Nelson doing in this movie oh no but Bill when you texted me that what did I say I said it I said it almost deserves its own category and I was like I'm already there I haven't written in the sheet Bill the best part about this is that even within Nelson's performance in New Jack City there are moments where his performance is like a Russian nesting doll and you think you've got it and then they open it up and it's like my favorite moment is when him and Scotty are drinking after Pookie dies and all of a sudden Nick Peretti becomes like a William Faulkner character he's like I was just poor white trash poor white trash Pookie I'm like what when did you become like an Oxford Mississippi like storyteller guy it was funny like because it was it was weird for me to like with Judd Nelson's character because it was like he was like this weird racist ally because he called him like a high yellow person he called him a high yellow dude and he was just like yeah you know I'm there with the brothers and he would just like mock this dude is this a black thing yeah and then is this a black thing and then at the end of the movie he kills somebody for uh for Scotty but it was just like this weird thing bro like why you gotta be racist all the time man but like I know you're down for it but like what are you doing right now why is this necessary why are you sleeping on why are you just laying on my bed like this with your boots on with your boots on bro but they don't you think they wanted to make him so that when he's redeemed at the end they were trying to make him intentionally unlikable in the first couple scenes so it could come around but it was forced on likability though like it was like yeah totally he's just out of nowhere it's like alright here's our fucked up racist cop who's gonna join us but he's gonna come around on the rooftop we're gonna find out he's poor way I have no idea what's happening and he delivers the most important line of the whole movie remember when we were talking about the drugs isn't a black thing it's not a white thing it's a death thing
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