Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables
81:11 – 87:12… Dragon. They decided not to use them. Michael Mann said it seemed too corny. Yeah. But there's pictures of Noonan and man and all that stuff. So there you go. Apex Mountain. Peterson. Movie Peterson, I'm going to say yes. I would say Peterson would be CSI. You know, Quentin Tarantino directing a CSI episode and that being the biggest show on television. Tom Noonan, probably yes. It's just out there. It's the biggest characters ever played. I'm just grabbing it. It's out there. Michael Mann, no. Joan Allen, no. Fire corpses on rolling desk chairs? Apex? What a day for those guys. Huh? Their draft stock went up …
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William Peterson had trouble getting out of the character after the movie, which we hear sometimes. And then they did the tattoos that they have in Red Dragon. They decided not to use them. Michael Mann said it seemed too corny. Yeah. But there's pictures of Noonan and man and all that stuff. So there you go. Apex Mountain. Peterson. Movie Peterson, I'm going to say yes. I would say Peterson would be CSI. You know, Quentin Tarantino directing a CSI episode and that being the biggest show on television. Tom Noonan, probably yes. It's just out there. It's the biggest characters ever played. I'm just grabbing it. It's out there. Michael Mann, no. Joan Allen, no. Fire corpses on rolling desk chairs? Apex? What a day for those guys. Huh? Their draft stock went up in Manhunter. When we finally go back to the office, I'd like to try that with a dummy. Because we're going to have a lot of room in the Spotify offices to just roll dummies that are on fire down the campus. I'll alert HR on that one. Thanks. Criminal profiling? I'm going to say no. Hmm. So what is the apex? I'd say CSI. I mean, there are people, like 25 million people. But they're more doing like forensic, like pathological, like pathology stuff where they're putting together what happened based on like how somebody's body is. Like, I think, I mean. I think then you got to go silence. Because that movie made like $250 million and a bunch of Oscars. Yeah. And it got a DeVita. I'm going to say yes. Okay. Why not? Still live it on. When else is anyone ever talking about that song? Well, it's considered like one of the, I mean, it's one of the creation myth songs of heavy metal. So you could make the case that. That's its apex? That when it was released, it basically inspired Black Sabbath and Metallica and all of these bands. So I don't, the very little. That's a good point. The little scene Manhunter. An obscure serial killer drama from 1986 might not be Iron Butterfly's Apex Mountain. Yeah. Iron Butterfly probably like sold out Wembley. But we're like, you guys are fucking losers. Manhunter's being in the last scene of Manhunter is as good as it gets for you. They were a one hit wonder though. I did some research on them because I want to see if they had any other songs. They were one of the original one hit wonders. Sprinting through a window, Apex Mountain, Chris? Yeah. I mean, I think Axel Foley getting thrown out of a window is the apex mountain of getting tossed. But jumping through a window, I'm probably going to go. Sprinting through the window. We'll agree. We'll agree. We'll agree. The funny. Sanibel Captiva Florida, Apex Mountain. For sure. It has to be. Yeah. I didn't even know what that place was. Cut off gray t-shirts? Pretty huge. CR is going to challenge that tonight. He's going to throw on six cut off gray t-shirts and take a lot of selfies. All right. Pick and Nitz. Let's just go here. How the fuck did he own this house? We were texting about this last night. It's just inexplicable. Even in 1986, that's like a $4 million house. He's a fucking cop. So there are beach communities in this country where it's like, you know, normal people live close to the beach, right? Like it's not like not every single thing is Miami Beach or Malibu. I guess in the mid 80s, it's more conceivable. Maybe his wife had some money. You think Molly's sitting on a family fortune? Maybe. That's why they have a boat. You know, and they're just throwing around fuck you money at Publix buying a bunch of coffee. Oh, I, by the way, I had Kim Greased in Apex Mountain. The answer is yes, because she had Miami Vice than this. I actually really liked her. She's great. I don't know why she didn't. I don't know what happened with her. I like her in Chud. You guys seen Chud? Great. I would have had her in more stuff. Should they have cut the alternate ending that we all watched? So, okay. Help me understand the difference here. What are the, what do you know the specifics between the two? Yes. So, he saves, he saves Joan Allen's character. It goes right to back to the beach and him being with his family again. And it's like, it's almost like a different movie. When you know that that's not, the director's cut has a different ending. When you watch this shot, it definitely feels like a note from the studio being like, we have to show that this guy recovered fully from this. Well, so for the people listening, the alternate ending does have the actual ending. It's just, there's a scene between him hugging Joan Allen and saying, I'm Will Graham. And then the next scene is him showing up at the house of the guy, the whole, the silly girl is watching those home movies. The next family who's going to murder, Will Graham shows up at the house because he wants to see them. And they're like, and they're kind of, at first they think he's an intruder. Then he's like, oh, you're the guy who saved us. Hey, thank you. And he's just super weird. He's got a black eye. And he's just basically like, do you want to come in? No, I just wanted to see you. And then it goes to the beach. I actually think that worked. I think they should have kept that. I totally agree. I thought that was brilliant. I thought that would have given us so much more understanding of the fact that for Will Graham to get out of the mentality of the serial killer is really hard for him. And that that was something that was like torturing him throughout this entire process. And it indicates that like, there's a moment when he's standing in front of this couple who he has ostensibly saved, where you're thinking to yourself, is he going to kill these people? Like, is he going to take over the mission of the tooth fairy? And it's, it just makes them, it makes the movie more complex. It's interesting. I think I would have liked that movie. Yeah. I mean, oh God, Will Graham snapped. He's now the tooth fairy junior. That's it. Any other picket nets, Chris? Yeah, I got one. Has Michael Mann ever been on a fucking first date? Like, like we are now pretty deep into his, his career. And in multiple movies, absolutely brutal first dates. First of all, like, for as a dollar, I'd take in Joan Allen to go pet a tiger. Neil and eat Neil being like, what do you, why are you, why are you so interested in what I'm reading and what I do?
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