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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

Say Anything... 1989

With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan and Judd Apatow · 10 June 2020 · 25,449 feet

The claim

72:25 – 78:51

… by the way yeah for all you people out there go on itunes and check out the smithereens greatest hits they're kind of awesome from new jersey i believe apex mountain where we decided this was the absolute apex of somebody's career i'm gonna say yes for ioni sky because this is the best character she ever played right i think that's pretty fair to say john cusack i don't even really know what his apex was because it feels like he just keeps resurfacing with major things every time you think maybe maybe though maybe had the run and then you know like high fidelity was in 2000 it's 11 years after this movie …

The whole segment, as transcribed

smithereens song their biggest hit that was the biggest smithereens song so i feel like cameron crow gets some credit for that uh love the smithereens by the way yeah for all you people out there go on itunes and check out the smithereens greatest hits they're kind of awesome from new jersey i believe apex mountain where we decided this was the absolute apex of somebody's career i'm gonna say yes for ioni sky because this is the best character she ever played right i think that's pretty fair to say john cusack i don't even really know what his apex was because it feels like he just keeps resurfacing with major things every time you think maybe maybe though maybe had the run and then you know like high fidelity was in 2000 it's 11 years after this movie what would you say for him so part of apex mountain is when somebody not only peak performance or one of their best performances but also when they had their most juice and they're their most juice to like coming out of this project they could get anything done with the next project well no one in show business has juice anymore well this is back in the day when there was juice back when there used to have juice that's a whole different issue that's the great thing about john cusack is that you know he's in this for the long haul you know you're right like he has amazing movies in every era how about that movie that takes place entirely in the in the one room that's based on the stephen king oh yeah room uh what was that one called that movie's good 1408 yeah it's unbelievable yeah it's a fantastic movie he basically has two peaks he has this is pretty much one and then i guess 10 years later with the run of you know con air being john malkovich and uh high fidelity i think yeah i agree with that john mahoney no camicron no um i don't know about lauren dean joe definitely was my favorite lauren dean character you like him more than the guy from any enemy of the state yeah okay yeah um 80s high school movies i'm gonna say no as much as i love this movie i don't think this would be the first 80s high school movie that pops to mind but i i agree with you is it bueller yeah probably it's either it's either bueller or breakfast club i don't think of it as even a part of that right this is it's it's yeah it's an outlier because it's so much more sophisticated in a lot of ways you know it is all those movies feel like they're in one category some of the john use movies bachelor party right it almost feels like it's like a 1990 movie that just happened to come out a year too early uh i mean i have to think you know say that like when we were working on freaks and geeks i i always thought let's approach this like we're still doing a larry sanders show but just in high school and in a way that's how i feel about this movie like it's about high school it's about you know first love but it's made by very uh you know funny smart emotionally complex sophisticated filmmakers and so it does feel like it's you know in its own space this is a tough apex mountain question seattle movies we don't see that much of seattle we're not really getting a lot of the visual the correct answer is no it's actually singles is even though singles i think this is probably a better movie i think singles is feels just like such more of a seattle movie i have to admit for the longest time i mean you never really find out where it's actually set but i always thought of seven as a seattle movie just because it rains so much in that movie i know it's it's probably not but like yeah i think singles is a more seattle movie although there are some very famous settings from say anything in seattle how about apex mountain for nursing home fraud movies would this be number one for you guys no it's the first couple seasons of better call saul are all about nursing home fraud picking nets this is where we pick nets with a couple things in the movie i i mean we talked about this already but i maybe two three minutes less of the nursing home fraud stuff i would have i think we could have gotten a hint of it if you're gonna cut anything maybe maybe do that and then no expand expand more nursing home fraud i want to meet more of the people in the nursing home i want to know his relationship with them how does this scam work i need 20 more minutes the godfather 2 version of this movie is we get like midway in and we're like right about they're about to fall in love and then there's the flashback to when mahoney first decides to start scamming i i 90 percent understand why she broke up with lloyd but there's 10 percent that i feel like it was a little abrupt like because it really seemed like she loved them and then all of a sudden she's like hey we're caught i'm gonna call this off and it's like so his reaction is kind of my reaction watching it now i think that's intentional by cameron crowe but it bothers me i didn't notice this i think when i was younger but i do think that you're supposed to understand that a fair amount of time is passing over the course of the conversations that she's having with her dad because i i don't think i noticed before that her outfits are changing and his outfits are changing and they're in different rooms in the house having that conversation over and over again so we're really i think you are supposed to feel like they're getting closer and closer to when she's supposed to leave and and he's kind of trying to disentangle her from this but yeah and i think initially when you watch it you're like man that seemed abrupt yeah i think that you know the thing that uh was a big deal back then was the pre going to college breakup you know that's just how it worked if you met somebody you know in uh in june and you know around graduation and you're leaving in september that that that ship's going down and that was actually the most painful thing for everybody was the people who were head over heels and loving were like am i gonna have a long distance relationship in college those were all gonna end so i thought it really was motivated but motivated by the dad using that against her yeah you know clearly he's got an issue with anyone with her and they're super codependent but he he's trying to manipulate her and say you know it's not gonna work what are you gonna do take him to europe like this don't get

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What the board says

This film IS their apex
John Cusack24,600 ftThe highest point of the career. Carries 92 of 100 of this film.
Their apex is elsewhere
Joan Cusack20,860 ftToy Story 2, 1999, by 3,217 feet.
Lois Chiles18,110 ftMoonraker, 1979, by 485 feet.
Dan Castellaneta18,050 ftThe Simpsons Movie, 2007, by 425 feet.

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