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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

Creed 2015

With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey and Van Lathan · 19 February 2024 · 25,143 feet

The claim

88:11 – 93:56

… Cruiserweight title. Oh, he is a fantastic fighter. Like eight months after this movie came out by KO in the third round. It's a good YouTube clip. All right. Apex Mountain. Ryan Coogler, no. No. MBJ? Maybe. Yes. Probably. What's the alternative? Say yes. It would be, the alternative would probably be Black Panther. It's this. Yeah. Coming out of Creed, it's like he could make any movie he wants. Tessa Thomas? Tessa Thompson? No. I wouldn't say so. What is it for her? Not this. What is it then? I just don't feel like this is her. Not her best work. But Valkyrie? Valkyrie. Valkyrie, I just feel like she's had …

The whole segment, as transcribed

and learned to box. And then our guy who played Ricky Conlon, Tani Baloo, he won the WC Cruiserweight title. Oh, he is a fantastic fighter. Like eight months after this movie came out by KO in the third round. It's a good YouTube clip. All right. Apex Mountain. Ryan Coogler, no. No. MBJ? Maybe. Yes. Probably. What's the alternative? Say yes. It would be, the alternative would probably be Black Panther. It's this. Yeah. Coming out of Creed, it's like he could make any movie he wants. Tessa Thomas? Tessa Thompson? No. I wouldn't say so. What is it for her? Not this. What is it then? I just don't feel like this is her. Not her best work. But Valkyrie? Valkyrie. Valkyrie, I just feel like she's had more significant things than this. Chris, was Apex Mountain for Johns? In cinema history? Yes. Okay. How about our guy Tony Blue? Probably winning the title. Yeah. I'm going to say it's better. Stallone, no. Honestly, I had never heard of Tony Blue other than this movie. So maybe it is this movie. Oh, he's like great cruiser, like you said, cruiserweight. He had a great fight with Usyk, like a really, really great fighter, like one of the best. This was my Apex Mountain for Pauly because I never liked Pauly. HBO 24-7? Hmm. Yeah. Could be. I mean, they have some really great episodes of it, but yeah, this is, you know. Considering Creed's going to be watched for the next 40 years and I don't even know if 24-7's on anymore. HBO Boxing, done. All right, Chris, Philly movies? So, you asked me- I asked Chris to come up with a Mount Rushmore for Philly movies, so here we go. Let me just do this because I spent a lot of time thinking about this. Let's like Chris cook. Get out of the kitchen, everybody. I think every, I think my number one is locked up. I'll go in descending order. I'll go Sixth Sense, Rocky, blowout, training places and then there's the number one with a bullet and it's Super Bowl 52. How dare you? When he texted me, he was like, come up with a Mount Rushmore for Philly movies. He's like, I fucking got a Mount Rushmore. God damn it. Well, we won six. Apex Mountain for Tone Trump? God, I think this podcast has been Apex Mountain for Tone Trump. Shout out to my man, Tone Trump. Tone Trump did a lot of stuff in the community. Probably not. How about Max and Lampley? God, they call so many great fights. Yeah, I don't think it is. Any other Apex Bounds? This is Apex Mountain for Creed movies. It's also, the Apex for real boxers in movies. Oh. You have Tony in this one. You have Gabriel Rosado in this one. You have, yeah, you have Andre Ward. You have so many actual real boxers in the film. It's the Apex Mountain for that. They get good performances out of all of them. All right, we're going to pick some nits. What was Adonis doing with his business job from like age 23 to 29? What was the job? I have this for unanswerable questions. Would you let Adonis Creed manage your wealth? Because it's like he's working at like a financial services company, right? Yeah, Tony, I was trying to get a hold of you. Where were you? I had that stock. Oh man, I was in Tijuana. Again. I have a broken cheekbone. Just kind of unexplained. You want to pursue this, Sean? I mean, if you think about it, I would want my stocks to be traded by a guy named Don Johnson. Don Johnson. Don Johnson. I mean, Don, I'm sure he's Don. He's Don. It's Don. I have a bunch. Chris, what do you have for picking nits? Oh, I'll save mine. So, midway through the movie, Rocky and Donnie are walking down the street and Adonis kind of out of nowhere does a Marlon Brando Godfather imitation, but Talia Shire is in Godfather. Oh, a beam cross. Wow. A little stream cross there. We kind of break the seal. Okay. So, she can't be in Godfather and in the Rocky movies. You're the same person who likes Ocean's 12. Sure. Yes. Van, what do you got? This motherfucker just don't have enough fights, man. It's just not going to happen. He just don't have enough ring time. Yeah. You know, going down there and doing this thing down there, I know his daddy was creating everything, but this guy's getting his brain rattled. He's getting fucked up. He just don't have, that's the biggest nitpick about the movie, even though Francis Ngannou kind of made it reality, but like, that's the biggest nitpick. He just don't have enough fights. He getting killed. Yeah, my nitpick is about boxing in Tijuana. How does that work? You just go down there and you're like, I'd like to box. I'd like to have 15 fights. Actually, strangely, yes. Like, dudes in the gym would be like, yo, man, I'm going down to Tijuana this weekend. Like, you pay somebody five or ten thousand and some dude will jump out of a cab into a ring and give you a third round knockout. It's facts. This is something you did? No, never. Ring our podcast? Should we start covering Tijuana about Tijuana nights?

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Michael B. Jordan26,360 ftBlack Panther, 2018, by 5,961 feet.
Sylvester Stallone24,960 ftRocky II, 1979, by 4,583 feet.

A grade for each call is not built yet. The board's answer is shown; whether the pod landed on it is a separate judgement, and it is not made here.