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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

Rounders 1998

With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey and Van Lathan · 27 February 2024 · 22,385 feet

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73:49 – 78:00

… day Damon had pocket kings and got knocked out by Doyle Brunson who had pocket aces and sent his ass home. He's going home, Jim. Pocket kings, not enough. Apex Mountain. Damon, no. Norton, no. Poker, not yet. Have we done Damon's Apex Mountain in the past? It's got to be Born, right? The first Born. It's like a billion dollar franchise. You guys don't think this is Norton? Norton's Apex Mountain? American History X is about to come out. Fight Club. Fight Club for Norton? Yeah. Fight Club. Sure. Maybe the Incredible Hulk? Malkovich, Dangerous Liaisons? That's what I was thinking. Yeah. Being John Malkovich. …

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played the 98 WSOP and in the first day Damon had pocket kings and got knocked out by Doyle Brunson who had pocket aces and sent his ass home. He's going home, Jim. Pocket kings, not enough. Apex Mountain. Damon, no. Norton, no. Poker, not yet. Have we done Damon's Apex Mountain in the past? It's got to be Born, right? The first Born. It's like a billion dollar franchise. You guys don't think this is Norton? Norton's Apex Mountain? American History X is about to come out. Fight Club. Fight Club for Norton? Yeah. Fight Club. Sure. Maybe the Incredible Hulk? Malkovich, Dangerous Liaisons? That's what I was thinking. Yeah. Being John Malkovich. What do you have for Fam Kid Jansen? Or what about Being John Malkovich? Being John Malkovich. Oh, Being John Malkovich. Yeah, that's right. The name of the movie after him. What about Famke? Famke. Famke. Jean Grey. Yeah. A telepath and a telekinetic. Yeah. Is that a movie? Get out of here. X-Men. Totoro? X2? X2. Which Totoro movie? Lebowski. Do the right thing. That's fair. Prince Warner. Some folks from the crowd are shouting out Oreos. I think that's a good shout. I had Oreos coming up. Great. What about Binghamton? When's it ever been better? A lot of alums tonight, huh? Yeah. At state school. Love that. That tuition. Nice. Johnny Chan, Apex Mountain. Is it back-to-back World Series of Pokers? I would say so. Or this movie? I'm going to say back-to-back. Or getting housed by Mike D at the end of Rounders. Pretty cool of him to just let that happen. Atlantic City? I think it was my bachelor party, actually. Atlantic City? Your bachelor party? Too many big, huge fights there and stuff. 90s Atlantic City was pretty good. I don't know. Russians? Yeah. Just as an overall? Gretchen Mall, definitely not. Best racehorse name is the next category. We can go Teddy KGB, Mike McD, Rounder, or The Rake. The Rake. The Rake. You like that one? All right. Let's pick some nits. What do you got, CR? One thing would just be Mike referencing Clyde and Pearl as the nits. We just slipped right into it like Clyde and Pearl. It's the late 90s. Those guys, wouldn't they be like Rod Strickland and Mark Jackson? Why would they be going all the way back to the 70s? That's like a Koppelman thing. Also, it's not a nitpick, but Petrovsky having his own bottle of gin at the bar is a choice. I don't know. Does he bring it? Do they just give him the bottle of Seagram's? What's going on there? What do you got, Van? So, I love New York. Love you guys in the city, right? But every time I come to New York and I stay in a hotel, you literally can do like this and this and you touching both sides of that motherfucker. Oh, yeah. Their apartment is so big. I had this too. Yeah. Their apartment in the movie, they're so big, which is another reason why if she's doing so well, she shouldn't have a problem with the fact that on the weekends, he likes to go out and just play a little poker. She's obviously a millionaire. First big hand, Sean, when Teddy KGB thinks he won, how did he know Mike didn't have four nines? He didn't. We talked about this last time we talked about it. There's no way to know. Sean, how much time have you spent on poker Reddit? I've never been on poker Reddit, I promise. But really quickly, what is Teddy's job? Is Teddy a mob boss or a full-time poker player in a mob den? Because Mike walks in at the end of the movie and he's like, let's play. And Teddy's not like, oh, I have to organize the books for this crime ring.

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What the board says

Their apex is elsewhere
Matt Damon26,020 ftThe Martian, 2015, by 6,124 feet.
Edward Norton24,410 ftAmerican History X, 1998, by 5,349 feet.
John Malkovich24,570 ftIn the Line of Fire, 1993, by 6,656 feet.
Martin Landau21,020 ftEd Wood, 1994, by 3,333 feet.
Josh Pais18,010 ftTeeth, 2008, by 389 feet.

A grade for each call is not built yet. The board's answer is shown; whether the pod landed on it is a separate judgement, and it is not made here.