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Apex Mountain on The Rewatchables

Sudden Death 1995

With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt · 25 April 2023 · 20,124 feet

The claim

40:01 – 42:50

… it's like, no, it seems like they just kept the seats out for him and he just kind of bounced off of them. Yeah. That's pretty cool. I would say that would be Apex Mountain for running on stadium steps. But I think it's that guy from Vision Quest holding the log over his shoulders up the stairs. That's still probably. Shoot. Yeah. Shoot. Yeah. Shoot. He still got it. The other part of that, when he's running down the stairs is everyone's just locked in on the game. Yeah. It's game seven. It's like, here's a guy sprinting down section one, just jumping on people's left. Now we run a power play. Tied up in game …

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Like he goes bounding like a Spider-Man as he's on fire. And we're getting close. Yeah. It is really good. I rewound it. Cause I was like, did they, did they cheat this? Like, did they remove the seat? And if it's like, no, it seems like they just kept the seats out for him and he just kind of bounced off of them. Yeah. That's pretty cool. I would say that would be Apex Mountain for running on stadium steps. But I think it's that guy from Vision Quest holding the log over his shoulders up the stairs. That's still probably. Shoot. Yeah. Shoot. Yeah. Shoot. He still got it. The other part of that, when he's running down the stairs is everyone's just locked in on the game. Yeah. It's game seven. It's like, here's a guy sprinting down section one, just jumping on people's left. Now we run a power play. Tied up in game seven, Bill. I don't give a shit what's happened. The next thing I wrote down was Van Damme plays goal, big stop, punches a guy. Let's go. The best part, my favorite part of this whole scene is when the announcer says, this has been a strange night for Tolliver, the goalie. Makes a little move out in front of the net. What's he doing? He's a slave to Bitsky. Tolliver, what the fuck are you doing? He gave him a right cross and knocked him down. He's going to get a game misconduct and a fighting major. He's put his team shorthand into Penguins now, really, in the whole title coming. This has been a strange night for Tolliver. I don't know what he's up to, Mike. Tolliver, that's a thousand dollar fine. After he punches, makes a great save and punches a guy from behind in the face, seemingly getting like a game misconduct penalty. But there's this whole subplot where the Penguins goalie is sick. It's 104 degree temperature. He keeps giving up goals. And at no point, the coach is like, maybe we should go with the backup here. And then the guy skates off. And the next time we see him, he's just in a locker room with no trainers, with like an oxygen mask. No doctors. Was this guy? Did this guy create COVID? What happened? Was this the first guy who had COVID-19? Did he have like some sort of pneumonia? What was going on with him? He's in quarantine like he's in movie Outbreak, which was very recently close to this one. I actually have like a weird sports take on that is it's game seven. It's tied three to three. And the goalie goes and checks himself out of the game. Like, is that not the softest thing that he would just get annihilated for in Pittsburgh? Doesn't that go against everything hockey represents? Right. Take me out. I'm not feeling it. Dude, it's three to three. The backup goalie sucks. I thought that was a weird plot point among many others. It's a good point. Like the announcers should have been way more outrage. Yeah. Like, where is Tyler going? He's our best goalie. And then Bill, beyond that, I think this hockey scene is so important. Do you understand the why and the how? Like, do you even understand why McCord is getting in the hockey stuff and going out there? I'm not really. She's trying to hide from the henchmen, right?

56:08 – 58:56

… think Van Damme realized he peaked as an actor and just was like, all right, I'm going to try an eight ball. It's time. And that was it. It was literally his apex mountain. All the greats go to cocaine. That's what I'm doing. The Den of Thieves Benny Hanna Awards scene-stealing location. I guess is the roof. Yeah. It's the arena. The whole thing is a location. Yeah. It's the whole arena. Yeah. But I think they knew that the roof was going to be so badass that they had to manufacture reason for him to go up there. There really isn't any other reason. It looks very cool. It's a great shot. The Butch's Girlfriend …

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And other than that, it's just great to see the ESPN Hockey Night Stanley Cup. Yeah. It got me so fired up. I loved it. I enjoyed it as well. You think Van Damme realized he peaked as an actor and just was like, all right, I'm going to try an eight ball. It's time. And that was it. It was literally his apex mountain. All the greats go to cocaine. That's what I'm doing. The Den of Thieves Benny Hanna Awards scene-stealing location. I guess is the roof. Yeah. It's the arena. The whole thing is a location. Yeah. It's the whole arena. Yeah. But I think they knew that the roof was going to be so badass that they had to manufacture reason for him to go up there. There really isn't any other reason. It looks very cool. It's a great shot. The Butch's Girlfriend Award for Weeklink of the film. We mentioned the kids. We talked about the daughter, Whitney Wright, the sleepless in Seattle kid. I should be rooting for him to save the kids. These are his children. That's the easiest thing for me to root for in a movie. And that little shit son, I'm just dying for him to, you know, especially when he's left in the arena at the end and it's just him. And it's like, eh, good time for the arena to blow up. This kid was just shitty to his dad for, you know, the entire day. Fuck this kid. See, this is when fantasy would come in and be like, oh, that's great, Bill. Make fun of the kid. Hope he died. And I'm sitting here. I'm with you. I'm like, that fucking idiot kid. I didn't leave, Dad. I didn't leave. Shut up. Yeah. Moron. It drove me crazy. I don't like the kid either. So this kid completely disrespects his dad the whole movie. Like, makes disparaging comments to the daughter. My dad's a fucking loser. Yeah. He's like, well, he's probably changing a light bulb. Yeah. Idiot. And then he gives him the instruction, don't leave your seat. And the kid's just chained to his seat for the next two hours. So do you respect your dad or not? Like, because at some point, maybe get up when everyone in the arena is out. I hated the little kid. I hate the kids in this movie. I did too. What's age the worst? Started the movie off with the dead little girl with her eyes open. I just don't know if we needed that. I mean, I think the nuance is perfect. Were the eyes open entirely necessary? We get it. A child died and it affects the psychology. It was disturbing in the first 30 seconds. It was their version of the opening of Cliffhanger, which we both love so much. It's rushed through. It quickly ends and that's it. We just kind of, they basically tried to accomplish everything Cliffhanger did for 20 minutes and Cliffhanger in like three minutes. Except we would need her dad to blame Van Damme for killing the daughter and hold it against him for the rest of the movie inexplicably. Right. Maybe the dad is Powers Booth. That would have been a good wrinkle. Great wrinkle. Bringing machine guns into a sporting event is age the worst for a variety of reasons, but mainly I don't think anyone's doing that anymore. I didn't love the crowd in this game seven.

76:39 – 81:05

… all that stuff. You know, it'd be fun now. Nothing. What do you think the body count was for this movie? It's a lot. I'm going to say 30. Yeah. 36. 36. Yeah. Apex Mountain. It's a hard no for Powers Booth. Nah. What do you have? What is this Apex for Powers? Because I mean, I think of him in Tombstone. That's right around there. But I don't know. I don't know his earlier stuff as well. I think he was in Deadwood. Okay. I don't know. He was in a Vietnam movie. I don't know. He's one of those. I think Powers Booth is probably like 90% name. Great name. Just a great name. It's like, oh, we got Powers Booth. Oh, …

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All the fans now would have phones. We get to see all that stuff. You know, it'd be fun now. Nothing. What do you think the body count was for this movie? It's a lot. I'm going to say 30. Yeah. 36. 36. Yeah. Apex Mountain. It's a hard no for Powers Booth. Nah. What do you have? What is this Apex for Powers? Because I mean, I think of him in Tombstone. That's right around there. But I don't know. I don't know his earlier stuff as well. I think he was in Deadwood. Okay. I don't know. He was in a Vietnam movie. I don't know. He's one of those. I think Powers Booth is probably like 90% name. Great name. Just a great name. It's like, oh, we got Powers Booth. Oh, it sounds awesome. But he just wasn't a great actor. Instead of Darren McCord, they should have called him Powers Booth. That's true. It would have been better. Van Damme, Apex Mountain, probably Bloodsport. I think that opens up the whole career. And he makes 11 movies in six years. Kind of because of Bloodsport. Because that was such a phenomenon. It set it off. I think in about 92, he did Universal Soldier. It was a big hit. Roland Emmerich directs on his way to Independence Day. And it was about kind of robotic-type killers right after T2. It was fucking big. And he fought Ivan Drago in it. He was hitting in the early 90s. I think Bloodsport opened the doors. And that's really good. So that leads to Double Team. When you get to play Twins, maybe that's your Apex Mountain. So maybe it's Universal Soldier leading into Double Team. All he was missing was a body switch movie. He did the Twins. He did everything else. He needed a body switch comedy with some kid. It would have happened. He couldn't stay off the fucking nose sauce. So much cocaine. Apex Mountain for the Penguins? No. Ross Ballinger, the little shit kid in this movie? Yeah. No, because he was really good in Sleepless in Seattle. Dorian Harewood? No. Is this Apex Mountain for hockey? No. Miracle. As a movie? Yeah. Hockey movies? No. Arena in Danger movies? Probably not. Die Hard rip-off movies? No. Mm-mm. That's it. That's all I got. What's your best racehorse name? Shit. I didn't really have one. I mean, Sudden Death sounds fine, I guess. Do you got a good one? Is there a good one that you found? What about a horse named Evil Mascot? It's good. It's good. Evil Mascots always work. If you saw that in the program, you'd go and bet on Evil Mascot. For sure. An Evil Mascot coming down the stretch. I thought that was a good one. Picking Nets. Yeah. Why is being a fire engineer in Pittsburgh's main hockey arena such an unrespected job? Seems awesome. Seems like a decent job. Yeah, they know him at the stadium. Why do they make it seem like he's a fucking jackass? I didn't get that. But this game goes into overtime. He's going to blow everything up if the game just ends four to three. Goes into overtime and it delays the explosions. I don't remember overtime being on the card as he was explaining his 13 frozen bank account, his whole scheme. It was never the part. But if we go into overtime, that will buy you another whatever. Never says that. So I didn't really understand that one. Here's another thing of picking Nets. Yeah, go on. They never say the fucking guy's name. The villain. In the IMDb, he's listed as Joshua Foss. That's never said. Never said. Stupid. Maybe they thought that's such a stupid name. They said it once. You got to take that out. Just give that. Don't have that guy. Terrible names in this movie between McCord and Foss. Just awful. Joshua Foss. Yeah. Why doesn't McCord's son care after about the 20-minute mark that his sister never came back to her seat? Is he just the worst person on the earth? It's terrible. The chair that he's not going to get out of when he's older is the psychiatrist chair. That kid's going to be so fucked up. He's never going to leave that chair. Sorry, kid. The session's up. Well, I'm not going to leave. Well, I have another patient, so I'm not leaving. Terrible. I don't know why Hallmark didn't just kill McCord, but that's, you know, that happened three times. He did back in the day. You got to talk to him first. Got to talk first. All right. Some hockey stuff. Nobody recognizes Van Dam. Let's go. Not Tover. Tover changes. He looks different. His face is different. None of his teammates notice. None of them? No idea. No. Even afterwards, after he makes the save, they don't notice.

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Their apex is elsewhere
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